VMA satan worship and West being rude

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Well, Taylor Swift had to sell her soul to win awards, she can’t sing AT ALL. 😃 Unless she has a talent that isn’t related to singing talent. 😃 Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
Oh c’mon, she’s not that bad. I mean at least her lyrics don’t make my eyes roll as much as when I hear the redundant likes of, oh let’s say, Soulja Boy? How about Apple Bottom Jeans? I’ll listen to anything by Taylor than tolerate another second hearing those two. >8(
 
Oh c’mon, she’s not that bad. I mean at least her lyrics don’t make my eyes roll as much as when I hear the redundant likes of, oh let’s say, Soulja Boy? How about Apple Bottom Jeans? I’ll listen to anything by Taylor than tolerate another second hearing those two. >8(
Have you heard her live? Flatter than a pancake. It is very painful. Autotune does wonders. I would rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than her.
Hr songs are catchy, she would do better as a songwriter, and stay far far far away from a microphone!
 
What Kanye did was bullying - do you think he would’ve gotten up there and taken the mic from Metallica?
That’ll happen right after PETA protests cruelty to animals by throwing paint on the leather worn by the Hell’s Angels instead of little old women wearing fur.

Sounds like another show to be glad I missed.
 
That’ll happen right after PETA protests cruelty to animals by throwing paint on the leather worn by the Hell’s Angels instead of little old women wearing fur.

Sounds like another show to be glad I missed.
Sorry, I’m a little confused and bewildered. Why would PETA want to throw little old women wearing fur at Hell’s Angels?

(Although it may be good for media ratings if it were a game show.)
 
Have you heard her live? Flatter than a pancake. It is very painful. Autotune does wonders. I would rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than her.
Hr songs are catchy, she would do better as a songwriter, and stay far far far away from a microphone!
Well I was just talking about her lyrics. :p:o
 
Sorry, I’m a little confused and bewildered. Why would PETA want to throw little old women wearing fur at Hell’s Angels?

(Although it may be good for media ratings if it were a game show.)
No, they throw paint on little old women wearing fur instead of on leather-wearing Hell’s Angels. Because fur is ever so much worse than leather (though I think it’s more the fear of retaliation). Actually, it’s not just ‘little old women’ but women in fur in general (like a mother taking her daughter to see The Nutcracker), but never leather-wearing folks at biker bars.
 
No, they throw paint on little old women wearing fur instead of on leather-wearing Hell’s Angels. Because fur is ever so much worse than leather (though I think it’s more the fear of retaliation). Actually, it’s not just ‘little old women’ but women in fur in general (like a mother taking her daughter to see The Nutcracker), but never leather-wearing folks at biker bars.
Would it be alright to wear fur from roadkill?
Maybe the mother would feel safer wearing leather taking her daughter to see Hell’s Angels at a biker bar.
If I thought someone were wearing the skin of my child I think I would retaliate.
 
I’m not saying the songs she writes are demonic, but she is now part of the illuminati. For initiation, people in this organization have to give up something MAJOR. For Swift, it was her 1st major award. Come one guys. The only person kanye cares about it himself, why would he go up and defend beyonce? Also, after this scene, Swift is wearing red, as she has passed the test. When she hugged beyonce at the end, a message ran across the screen in the background… The icing? SWIFT WINS A GRAMMY! Just like 3-6-Mafia won an oscar after their initiation! As Christians we HAVE to be aware of what we choose to watch and listen to!
 
I’m not saying the songs she writes are demonic, but she is now part of the illuminati. For initiation, people in this organization have to give up something MAJOR. For Swift, it was her 1st major award. Come one guys. The only person kanye cares about it himself, why would he go up and defend beyonce? Also, after this scene, Swift is wearing red, as she has passed the test. When she hugged beyonce at the end, a message ran across the screen in the background… The icing? SWIFT WINS A GRAMMY! Just like 3-6-Mafia won an oscar after their initiation! As Christians we HAVE to be aware of what we choose to watch and listen to!
Sorry but the moment you typed “illuminati”, I have lost all reason to take you seriously. :rolleyes:
 
Would it be alright to wear fur from roadkill?
Maybe the mother would feel safer wearing leather taking her daughter to see Hell’s Angels at a biker bar.
If I thought someone were wearing the skin of my child I think I would retaliate.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The people who protest fur because “it’s so cruel” throw paint on the furs worn by ‘little old women’ as well as by mothers who are taking their daughter to see The Nutcracker or anywhere else they might find a fair number of women who are wearing fur. These same ‘it’s so cruel’ people never seem to get as worked up over the wearing of leather so as to repeat their paint-throwing stunts at the Hell’s Angels at a biker bar. Because it’s obviously far safer to make one’s ‘protest’ by attacking a woman than it is someone who looks like he can very effectively retaliate. Same as making a scene like the one involving this girl in the incident at the awards show.
 
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
The grammar of your posting by which you express yourself highlights the absurdity of the situation: People want to express themselves, feel passionate that they must, yet lacking the means are easily misunderstood. It’s not the intention which is lacking but the application.
 
I’m not saying the songs she writes are demonic, but she is now part of the illuminati. For initiation, people in this organization have to give up something MAJOR. For Swift, it was her 1st major award. Come one guys. The only person kanye cares about it himself, why would he go up and defend beyonce? Also, after this scene, Swift is wearing red, as she has passed the test. When she hugged beyonce at the end, a message ran across the screen in the background… The icing? SWIFT WINS A GRAMMY! Just like 3-6-Mafia won an oscar after their initiation! As Christians we HAVE to be aware of what we choose to watch and listen to!
It’s unfortunate that these threads so quickly devolve into uncharitability simply because the subjects are famous (and yes, I’m aware of what I said above). In point of fact, the award you claim that she “gave up” in her initiation wasn’t even her first VMA, much less her first major award. If you have a problem with something that a celebrity does, try praying for them instead of tying them to conspiracy theories.
 
It’s unfortunate that these threads so quickly devolve into uncharitability simply because the subjects are famous (and yes, I’m aware of what I said above). In point of fact, the award you claim that she “gave up” in her initiation wasn’t even her first VMA, much less her first major award. If you have a problem with something that a celebrity does, try praying for them instead of tying them to conspiracy theories.
Oh I’m praying for her SALVATION alright, like we all should be doing for her and other celebrities. This is not a conspiracy theory it is the TRUTH! Who is really going to parade around saying that they worship satan? & These societies are also supposed to be secretive anyway. I want you guys to know the TRUTH about the music industry! This is not uncharitability. This is a wake-up call. Now you know. Now you are responsible for whatever decision you make. Jay-Z, Kanye, Beyonce, Swift, Lady Gaga, Pink. The illuminati is REAL. Satan worship is REAL. Lucifer was the head of music before he got kicked out of heaven. The truth is sometimes hard to believe, and if you need proof, let God speak to you about this. Ask Him. He will reveal to you what you should believe. He revealed it to me. After all the research and prayer I did, I had to listen to just pure Christian music for HOURS. This situation is scary, but I choose to fear the Lord, and that gives me strength.
 
Oh I’m praying for her SALVATION alright, like we all should be doing for her and other celebrities. This is not a conspiracy theory it is the TRUTH! Who is really going to parade around saying that they worship satan? & These societies are also supposed to be secretive anyway. I want you guys to know the TRUTH about the music industry! This is not uncharitability. This is a wake-up call. Now you know. Now you are responsible for whatever decision you make. Jay-Z, Kanye, Beyonce, Swift, Lady Gaga, Pink. The illuminati is REAL. Satan worship is REAL. Lucifer was the head of music before he got kicked out of heaven. The truth is sometimes hard to believe, and if you need proof, let God speak to you about this. Ask Him. He will reveal to you what you should believe. He revealed it to me. After all the research and prayer I did, I had to listen to just pure Christian music for HOURS. This situation is scary, but I choose to fear the Lord, and that gives me strength.
I always find it interesting when others come in here trying to educate Catholics about secret societies. There’s a reason you can’t be a Catholic and a Mason. The Catholic Church has stood – mainly alone – against these societies for centuries. CENTURIES, as in, before the modern music industry existed. This does not change the fact that you can theorize all you want but to name any one celebrity as a member of such an organization is gossip, which is a sin against charity. You are not enlightening anyone in this forum that secret societies exist, that Satan worship exists or that the entertainment industry at large is full of people who would love to see the Church brought down or are otherwise mired in sin and iniquity. God does not use incorrect facts – as you did above – to prove His Truth. I implore you, brother, to not fall into the error of believing that you alone have special knowledge of the hearts of others. There are those throughout Church history who have been able to read souls; Padre Pio was one, Blessed Anna Maria Tiagi was one. They read souls for the edification of those souls, not so they could gossip with others about what those people were doing.
 
Where would you guys rank Christian performers whose only ambition is scrambling for the “mighty dollar”. Do we encourage them in their idol worship - buy tickets to concerts, C.D.s, etc.?
Even some protagonists of Gegorian Chant are scrambling (Santo Domingo de Silos), and many famous choirs.
 
I always find it interesting when others come in here trying to educate Catholics about secret societies. There’s a reason you can’t be a Catholic and a Mason. The Catholic Church has stood – mainly alone – against these societies for centuries. CENTURIES, as in, before the modern music industry existed. This does not change the fact that you can theorize all you want but to name any one celebrity as a member of such an organization is gossip, which is a sin against charity. You are not enlightening anyone in this forum that secret societies exist, that Satan worship exists or that the entertainment industry at large is full of people who would love to see the Church brought down or are otherwise mired in sin and iniquity. God does not use incorrect facts – as you did above – to prove His Truth. I implore you, brother, to not fall into the error of believing that you alone have special knowledge of the hearts of others. There are those throughout Church history who have been able to read souls; Padre Pio was one, Blessed Anna Maria Tiagi was one. They read souls for the edification of those souls, not so they could gossip with others about what those people were doing.
Should I quote for you guys? Have you listened to their music? Watched their videos? It’s occultic, MASONIC, DEMONIC imagery, symbolism, lyrics ALL OVER THE PLACE! This is not gossip. Jay-Z calls himself JayHova! “Jesus can’t save you” in the empire state of mind he boasts about. He has a song called Lucifer. We don’t even need to go into lady gaga, who wore a rosary on her body, with the cross placed on her crotch TO SAY THE LEAST. Rihanna, who’s song “run this town” is set after the rapture. She, jay-z, and kanye ALWAYS sport the illuminati hand gesture all the time. The “all-seeing eye” is placed on purpose by these artists (not as aesthetics!!!). Pink who remakes the initiation outfit for her vma performance. 3-6-mafia “Lucifer…i stay flyyyy.” That’s why I am telling you guys to stay prayed up and research about this. It’s not conspiracy! Jay-Z is the most blatant one, and the others are more discrete. Just because these people are not as blatant as manson does not mean they are not just as bad.

& We don’t need to be specially selected for God to reveal His truth to us. It’s called PRAYER. This is not special knowledge, it’s fact! I mean, these people aren’t Christian, AND on top of that INSULT CHRISTIANITY! They put this foolishness in their music! You think that’s…OK?! Since we’re not Saint so-and-so and blessed so-and-so we can’t vigilantly and prayarfully determine that these people are bad news? Let me know what you think of them now, with all this proof.
 
Where would you guys rank Christian performers whose only ambition is scrambling for the “mighty dollar”. Do we encourage them in their idol worship - buy tickets to concerts, C.D.s, etc.?
Even some protagonists of Gegorian Chant are scrambling (Santo Domingo de Silos), and many famous choirs.
Your first thought, before the Gregorian Chant people, as I do not know who they are, is very intreresting! It’s hard to decifer who is doing it for the money. There is one Christian rap artist I know of who stopped Christian rap because he wasn’t making ends meet. I think if God blesses you with a talent, that shows you that your life should be devoted to HIM. God will provide. You know, katey perry used to be a Christian singer! Did you guys ever listen to the rapper Mase? He was a pastor, turned secular rapper, turned pastor, turned rapper! Carzy. We should not support people who do it for the money, but how do we know when they are and when they aren’t? Also, it would be a bit hypocritical of us to say we won’t support these “fake” artists, but go ahead and support the real ones with God-given talent that go sing secular music about fame and wealth. They’re all just as lost to me…
 
Where would you guys rank Christian performers whose only ambition is scrambling for the “mighty dollar”. Do we encourage them in their idol worship - buy tickets to concerts, C.D.s, etc.?
Even some protagonists of Gegorian Chant are scrambling (Santo Domingo de Silos), and many famous choirs.
As Christians, their walk is their walk. It’s my responsibility to lift them in prayer and make sure that they are covered as they navigate the industry, not to determine whether or not they’re chasing the dollar. That’s between them and their confessors. Do you remember that old dcTalk song, “What if I Stumble”? It was about this very situation. I cannot imagine what kind of temptations are placed in the paths of my brothers and sisters; I can only pray that God will have mercy on them and give them the grace to withstand it. Does it bother me when, say, someone who talks smack about faith and people who go to church suddenly releases a Christmas album with a smokin’ version of “O Holy Night”? Yes, it does and I’m not likely to buy that album. That doesn’t mean, though, that God won’t use that particular version of that song to break someone’s heart and bring them to repentance. That’s a beautiful thing, even if the motivation was money to begin with.
 
Ultimately I can only be responsible for my soul, for the decisions I make, and pray for everyone’s conversion. Sanctification is an ongoing process.
 
Should I quote for you guys? Have you listened to their music? Watched their videos? It’s occultic, MASONIC, DEMONIC imagery, symbolism, lyrics ALL OVER THE PLACE! This is not gossip. Jay-Z calls himself JayHova! “Jesus can’t save you” in the empire state of mind he boasts about. He has a song called Lucifer. We don’t even need to go into lady gaga, who wore a rosary on her body, with the cross placed on her crotch TO SAY THE LEAST. Rihanna, who’s song “run this town” is set after the rapture. She, jay-z, and kanye ALWAYS sport the illuminati hand gesture all the time. The “all-seeing eye” is placed on purpose by these artists (not as aesthetics!!!). Pink who remakes the initiation outfit for her vma performance. 3-6-mafia “Lucifer…i stay flyyyy.” That’s why I am telling you guys to stay prayed up and research about this. It’s not conspiracy! Jay-Z is the most blatant one, and the others are more discrete. Just because these people are not as blatant as manson does not mean they are not just as bad.
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Gimme a break. Their songs aren’t even that good.

Jay-Z is nothing but another run-of-the mill rap superstar along with the likes of dopes such as 50 cent and Soulja Boy. They don’t even represent the entire music industry and no group ever does. As for Lady Gaga, that crazy lady’s just a hybrid clone of Cher and Madonna. Honestly! If I had my way, I’d recommend her to get some therapy (along with the nuts who take her seriously).

And again, with the “illuminati”. What is it with you conspiracy theorists and seeing symbols everywhere? :rolleyes: You call yourself Catholic but you can’t even see that we too are subject to the same treatment by the likes of whack jobs such as Dave Hunt? :rolleyes:
 
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