Vocation To The Priesthood

[ATeutonicKnight]

OK, so you say your are 15, but your profile says you were born in 1992, which if my arithmetic serves, makes you 19. Which is it?

You say you want to be a priest, yet you have nothing good to say about your own parish- There is nothing at all for you to be invloved in?
Lector? Altar server? Sing in the Choir? Volunteer with the Faith Formation program?
I find that very hard to believe that there are no opportunities for you in any of the parishes that you attend.

As far as you description of the sisters- you should be ashamed of yourself!! :tsktsk:
How dare you relate 2nd & 3rd hand information as TRUTH!!
Being how you are not even sure how old you are, and many of your immature rants & statments, why should anyone here take you seriously?
You don’t want to listen to anyone who has another point of view, and you have an answer and excuse of everything.

IMHO, not the characteristics of a good priest.

This is because I have to be eighteen to be on the site, so I lied. Many people do this on here, in my experience, as most of the people I know are under eighteen. Otherwise I would have my actual age posted.

No, no, and no. There’s about ten people that go in my parish, and everyone has their place. There’s usually more people serving in the Mass than people attending. It’s very click-ish, really. Even if I asked they probably wouldn’t let me be an altar server. There is no groups in the church, either. It’s a town of eight-hundred people. The only youth group is the Youth For Christ, in which teaches Protestant beliefs.

This is not second-hand information. All of the information I stated (Except for the information I gave from my grandma) were my personal experiences with the Sisters. I do not hate them though. I respect them greatly. You must’ve missed when I complimented them a few messages back. They just aren’t sound theologically, unfortunately. They’re very big in feminism. One even said to vote Democrat! Which goes against all rules for Religious, as they are to never choose sides, and simply state the morals which the Catholic Church lays down.

I listen to other peoples’ views. I just think strongly about some subjects. Many times have I changed my mind about things because of other people on here. Habits, for one.

It’s very hard to give a judgment on me since you don’t know me personally. The Bishop and three other Priests have told me I have a vocation and that I have the right attitude and beliefs for the Priesthood. My family and I went to a wedding last week, and everyone was amazed at how well-behaved we were, how willing to work we were, and how nice we were to each other and to others.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

This is because I’m not allowed to be on the site. I would love to give my actual age but ou have to be eighteen to be on here. However, it seems tons of people ignore this rule, as most of the people on here are between fifteen and seventeen, in my experience.

So you LIED!!!

Not a quality I look for in a priest!

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

WOW! Do the people you attend Mass with know how you feel about them?!

Bringing up the gifts occaisionally would not mean “being involved”,
at all the parishes I attend a family is always asked to do this.
As far as being an altar server, how do you know until you ask?

I don’t know, sounds like more excuses to me.

And, I am still waiting for an answer to my earlier question-
exactly how old are you?

I answered it in my post above.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

So you LIED!!!

Not a quality I look for in a priest!

So wait, you think it’s wrong that I lied about a very little thing so I could get onto a Catholic site and learn about the Faith? I’m friends with Tim Staples. Trust me, he doesn’t care at all.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

So wait, you think it’s wrong that I lied about a very little thing so I could get onto a Catholic site and learn about the Faith? I’m friends with Tim Staples. Trust me, he doesn’t care at all.

Yes, I do think that lying is wrong, even a little white lie!! You don’t?!

Your answers sceam that you are the slippery slope of moral relativism, my friend. :bigyikes:
What other rules don’t you think you have to follow because you don’t like them? :ehh:

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

Yes, I do think that lying is wrong, even a little white lie!! You don’t?!

Your answers sceam that you are the slippery slope of moral relativism, my friend. :bigyikes:
What other rules don’t you think you have to follow because you don’t like them? :ehh:

Lying is wrong, yes, but it doesn’t really matter on this site. A lot of the forum moderators know I’m not eighteen and they simply don’t care. You are the only one that has ever responded as if it’s a Mortal Sin to lie about my age to get on here. You act like I lied about my age to get on a porn site. This is Catholic Answers. Nobody has cared so far except you.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

Lying is wrong, yes, but it doesn’t really matter on this site. A lot of the forum moderators know I’m not eighteen and they simply don’t care. You are the only one that has ever responded as if it’s a Mortal Sin to lie about my age to get on here. You act like I lied about my age to get on a porn site. This is Catholic Answers. Nobody has cared so far except you.

My young friend, it is not about whether or not others do it, IT IS STILL WRONG!!!

And the fact that you don’t see that it is wrong, to be honest stuns me!

You rant & rave about how people don’t think you are mature. Please explain to me how lying about your age, then trying to justify it, is the mature thing to do?

 

[CATHOLICbrl]

There’s nothing to do. About ten people go, and most of these people are old. These people are not really Catholics, either. They’re lukewarm Catholics. They probably couldn’t tell you if Catholics were Christian or not. Starting a group would be a cool thing, but there’s nothing to do. Especially since you can’t even go into the Church to pray, since the lady in charge doesn’t want it to get dirty and locks it.
However, I have been involved in the Mass before. I have brought up the host and the wine a few times before, which means that I have been involved in the Mass. It’s a very click-ish Church so even if I asked to be an altar server I wouldn’t be able to since they have kids that do it and probably wouldn’t let me.

I feel sorry for the situation you are in. Small communities can be rough. You need to try and talk to the pastor of the church. Discuss some of your frustrations. On serving the mass you say they probably wouldn’t let you. You won’t know if you don’t ask. Let the priest know you want to get more involved, I would imagine if you are polite and respectful he’ll find something for you to do. I can’t imagine that there is a priest out there that wouldn’t love to help foster a possible vocation. Just remember you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Not a biblical scholar so I couldn’t come up with a good bible quote.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

My young friend, it is not about whether or not others do it, IT IS STILL WRONG!!!

And the fact that you don’t see that it is wrong, to be honest stuns me!

You rant & rave about how people don’t think you are mature. Please explain to me how lying about your age, then trying to justify it, is the mature thing to do?

Tell me why it’s wrong. If nobody cares except you, and if everybody I ask (Including Religious) say it is not a sin, than why do you treat it that way? Lying is bad, yes, but you act like I committed a great sacrilege. What if, just maybe, I got on here because I was in a very bad place about a year ago, desperately needing help, but not having any place to get it except here? Did you ever even consider that?

 

[CATHOLICbrl]

You don’t have to wait until you are 18 to talk to your Bishop.

Go here,
and check out an event coming up in November.
It’s free and they take care of transportation, what more can a young man who is aspiring to the priesthood want?!

Your first post to this young gentleman on this thread sure did not have a problem with his age. Why the sudden change in attitude.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

Tell me why it’s wrong. If nobody cares except you, and if everybody I ask (Including Religious) say it is not a sin, than why do you treat it that way? Lying is bad, yes, but you act like I committed a great sacrilege. What if, just maybe, I got on here because I was in a very bad place about a year ago, desperately needing help, but not having any place to get it except here? Did you ever even consider that?

So, if I use artificial birth control, and lie to my priest about it and say that I don’t, and I am not really hurting anybody but myself, is it still wrong??

A lie is a lie is a lie!! It does not matter what your intention is.
If you had 1/10th of the maturity you think you do, you would understand this.

As I have told all my nieces & nephews (I have no children, and NO, it’s not because I use ABC, I don’t, God just has not given me that gift yet!)-
all you will ever have to call your own is your INTEGRTY! Lose that when you are young and you may never get it back!!

 

[Oneofthewomen]

Your first post to this young gentleman on this thread sure did not have a problem with his age. Why the sudden change in attitude.

Because his user profile says he is 19, and it was not until I got involved in this thread that I made the connection.

 

[CATHOLICbrl]

A lie is a lie is a lie!! It does not matter what you intention is.

I wish we could let this lie thing drop. It is going to go nowhere. I think every person I know has lied at some time in there life. Is that right no but the people I know are human and have faults.

I ask you too read the quote you have at the bottom of your post. Then ask yourself if you are encouraging or tearing down the young man.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

So, if I use artificial birth control, and lie to my priest about it and say that I don’t, and I am not really hurting anybody but myself, is it still wrong??

A lie is a lie is a lie!! It does not matter what you intention is.
If you had 1/10th of the maturity you think you do, you would understand this.

As I have told all my nieces & nephews (I have no children, and NO, it’s not because I use ABC, I don’t, God just has not given me that gift yet!)-
all you will ever have to call your own is your INTEGRTY! Lose that when you are young and you may never get it back!!

Again, I realize lying is bad no matter what. But let me explain this to you again: I had nowhere else to go but here in my time of great need. If you knew half the struggle I went through at that time you wouldn’t be yelling at me for a small lie that nobody cares about except you. No Priest, Sister, Friar, or Monk that knows that I lied about my age on here cares. If they don’t care, than why do you?

You have been on me ever since I got on this site. I have a small question: If you firmly believe that no one should take me seriously, listen to me, or treat me as an adult, than why do you respond to every one of my threads and posts? That would be something called harassment, in which I could rightfully turn you in for. However, I will not. It would not do any good, despite the immediate relief of stress in my life because of it. I’m stressed enough when it comes to real life already. If I wanted a daily-attack dog that criticized everything I did I would join the Marines. However, giving you an infraction would not do much good, as then your resentment towards me would turn into hate, which Saint Maria Goretti compared malaria to.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

Encouragement does not mean allowing a person to continue to do wrong. Encouraging someone means helping them to look at themselves and their actions and discern what is the better course of action.

TeutonicKnight, you said you came to this sight because you needed help, and that is exactly what I am trying to do.
Go back and look at some of the threads you have started and participated in. You have been presumptious, rude, disrespectful to the clergy and religious, hostile to anyone who challenges you, and you lied.
Yes, maybe it was just once,
and it calls into question your INTEGRETY!!!

I do not now, nor have I ever hated anyone.

I think that with your intelligence & tenacity you can go very far in life.
I also think that you need to take a step back and really think about what you are going to say before you say it.
You need to learn how to take constructive criticism, and to give it.
You also need to remember that 15 years of life experience in the is not a whole heck of a lot!
I have nearly 3 times that much, live in a mid-sized city which is the seat of my diocese, which is probably one of the “most liberal” in the country,
I have just about seen it all!

This is an anonymous internet forum, and as such,
there are going to be many people who misrepresent themselves here.
I hope that I am not one of them.

I am a 41 year old woman, who has studied graduate level theology and pastoral ministry.
I also have a background in psycology & education.
I am here to learn, share and teach when I can. That is all I am trying to do.
If I come off as hostile, I am sorry, I am merely trying to challenge you to take that look "inward" instead of focusing so much on what is wrong around you.

A very wise man once told me-

“When everything is right with you, everything around you will become right.”

I encourage you to continue to pray about your vocation
and I strongly encourage you to find a spiritual director,
who you can bring your questions to and get real answers to your questions,
from someone who knows you, instead of anonymous people on the interent.
The vocations office in your diocese is there to help you, take their help.

You will be in my prayers.

Peace be with you on your journey.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

So wait, you think it’s wrong that I lied about a very little thing so I could get onto a Catholic site and learn about the Faith? I’m friends with Tim Staples. Trust me, he doesn’t care at all.

First, it is an integrity issue. One that does not speak well for you.

Added to the excuses we continually see.

How do we know that Tim Staples is your friend? You have already admitted lying to get what you want, that is lying to join the forum.

I believe that people under 18 can make accounts here.

There’s nothing to do. About ten people go, and most of these people are old. These people are not really Catholics, either. They’re lukewarm Catholics. They probably couldn’t tell you if Catholics were Christian or not.

This comment is way out of line and not something that someone who is seriously discerning the priesthood should be saying.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

First, it is an integrity issue. One that does not speak well for you.

Added to the excuses we continually see.

How do we know that Tim Staples is your friend? You have already admitted lying to get what you want, that is lying to join the forum.

I believe that people under 18 can make accounts here.

This comment is way out of line and not something that someone who is seriously discerning the priesthood should be saying.

Tim Staples is my friend. One lie to get myself help in a time of great need does not mean that I lie about everything I say. Many people lie on here.

I have found people that are seventeen on here, but I believe that was added, because I definitely remember it saying I had to be eighteen. However, this was a year ago, so I may be wrong. Either way, I was in deep trouble, as I was controlled by lust. One questionably venial sin that won’t send me to hell to help me stop committing Mortal Sins that will is not sacrilege.

Look, I don’t understand you two. There is nothing wrong with saying that my parish isn’t educated that well. It’s not their fault. They’re good people. But they aren’t educated well, either. We’ve conversed with them before, and they know what the average Catholic knows: Not much. Tim Staples talks about people all of the time. He always talks about uneducated Catholics and how we can help them, and he’s a very good person. Giving legitimate reasons on why I cannot serve in my parish is not a sin. These are simply my reasons on why I cannot.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

Encouragement does not mean allowing a person to continue to do wrong. Encouraging someone means helping them to look at themselves and their actions and discern what is the better course of action.

TeutonicKnight, you said you came to this sight because you needed help, and that is exactly what I am trying to do.
Go back and look at some of the threads you have started and participated in. You have been presumptious, rude, disrespectful to the clergy and religious, hostile to anyone who challenges you, and you lied.
Yes, maybe it was just once,
and it calls into question your INTEGRETY!!!

I do not now, nor have I ever hated anyone.

I think that with your intelligence & tenacity you can go very far in life.
I also think that you need to take a step back and really think about what you are going to say before you say it.
You need to learn how to take constructive criticism, and to give it.
You also need to remember that 15 years of life experience in the is not a whole heck of a lot!
I have nearly 3 times that much, live in a mid-sized city which is the seat of my diocese, which is probably one of the “most liberal” in the country,
I have just about seen it all!

This is an anonymous internet forum, and as such,
there are going to be many people who misrepresent themselves here.
I hope that I am not one of them.

I am a 41 year old woman, who has studied graduate level theology and pastoral ministry.
I also have a background in psycology & education.
I am here to learn, share and teach when I can. That is all I am trying to do.
If I come off as hostile, I am sorry, I am merely trying to challenge you to take that look "inward" instead of focusing so much on what is wrong around you.

A very wise man once told me-

I encourage you to continue to pray about your vocation
and I strongly encourage you to find a spiritual director,
who you can bring your questions to and get real answers to your questions,
from someone who knows you, instead of anonymous people on the interent.
The vocations office in your diocese is there to help you, take their help.

You will be in my prayers.

Peace be with you on your journey.

Thank you for your comment. It was both educational and helpful. I’m not a perfect person, but nobody is. I have my faults, and you have yours. I just sometimes feel that everyone on here is always criticizing me, and I get sick of it and may sometimes snap. But imagine if no matter what you said, somebody was telling you that it was wrong somehow? This is how I feel. I’m trying to give you legitimate reasons on why I cannot serve in my parish. I admit, I feel intimidated by it, but I would serve if I could. It has always been a dream of mine to be an altar server. There are a number of reasons why I won’t ask:

1. I’m always traveling.
2. I feel a bit intimidated by it as my self-esteem isn’t very high, since I’ve stuttered all my life. It took me years to even consider the Priesthood because of it, as I felt it was impossible. Even at this moment my self-esteem is very fragile and can break because of it. This is why I may respond with some hostility. I just barely have the self-esteem to really think about it and I’d only like to make it grow, not to consider my many faults and to deem myself unworthy, as this will only make it go down. I consider my faults with my daily examination of conscience, and in confession. Otherwise I’ll just feel horrible about myself.
3. I’m afraid to take it up with my parents. Don’t ask me why, but I am.

These are the simple reasons. I hope my explanation on my self-esteem has helped both of you to understand me a bit more and will help you to make a better judgment on me. There are many reasons for me to feel bad about myself: I stutter, I have slight OCD, I have horrible scruples, and I have all of the faults that you two have pointed out, plus a million more which you’ve yet to see. I have horrid self-esteem, and I hope that with this site I can make it grow. I know that you two can help me very much.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

Tim Staples is my friend. One lie to get myself help in a time of great need does not mean that I lie about everything I say. Many people lie on here.

There is no great need to be a member of an anonymous internet forum. It is a want. That you would lie to get what you want raises questions as to your integrity. That you would lie to achieve what you want makes me have to wonder about your truthfulness in other things. That’s just a fact of life.

I have found people that are seventeen on here…

What other people do is not at question here.

Look, I don’t understand you two. There is nothing wrong with saying that my parish isn’t educated that well. It’s not their fault. They’re good people. But they aren’t educated well, either. We’ve conversed with them before, and they know what the average Catholic knows: Not much. Tim Staples talks about people all of the time. He always talks about uneducated Catholics and how we can help them, and he’s a very good person. Giving legitimate reasons on why I cannot serve in my parish is not a sin.

You did not say they were not educated, you said;

About ten people go, and most of these people are old. These people are not really Catholics, either. They’re lukewarm Catholics. They probably couldn’t tell you if Catholics were Christian or not.

You guys asked, so you guys received. If all you’re going to do is criticize my every word than why ask? Why are my threads the center of your attention on CAF? There are literally hundreds of thousands of other threads that you can pay attention to other than mine. I tried to be patient and kind at first, but after a while the messages keep coming and responding to them makes me stressed and it makes me resent people. This is my last message on this thread about this subject. This was a thread for people that were discerning the Priesthood and it has gone completely off that topic. If I see it got this far off track again I’m going to ask that it gets deleted.

If you do not want your threads to be responded to then do not post them. I will not play into your persecution complex.

As I have done in the past and have tried to do so in the threads that I have responded in of yours (yes it is a fact that I have not responded in some of your threads) with advice on discernment and what you should/could be doing yet every time I do there is some excuse brought up.

I see that you are not here for that sort of advice so I am going to stop posting replies to you. You will join my ignore list so you need to worry that I am going to “criticize” you ever again, though I do not feel that I have but you seem to perceive it that way.

I will pray for you, please pray for me.

 

[ATeutonicKnight]

There is no great need to be a member of an anonymous internet forum. It is a want. That you would lie to get what you want raises questions as to your integrity. That you would lie to achieve what you want makes me have to wonder about your truthfulness in other things. That’s just a fact of life.

What other people do is not at question here.

You did not say they were not educated, you said;

If you do not want your threads to be responded to then do not post them. I will not play into your persecution complex.

As I have done in the past and have tried to do so in the threads that I have responded in of yours (yes it is a fact that I have not responded in some of your threads) with advice on discernment and what you should/could be doing yet every time I do there is some excuse brought up.

I see that you are not here for that sort of advice so I am going to stop posting replies to you. You will join my ignore list so you need to worry that I am going to “criticize” you ever again, though I do not feel that I have but you seem to perceive it that way.

I will pray for you, please pray for me.

I believe you read this post when I was angry, and before I changed it. Read it now and then read my other post. Perhaps it will help you to understand me.