Vocations in Third Orders

[Sunflower15]

Are third orders like Deacons, that can be married ONLY IF they were married PRIOR to becoming Deacons?
And, are all 3rd orders Secular?
Thanks!

 

[Cloisters]

Are third orders like Deacons, that can be married ONLY IF they were married PRIOR to becoming Deacons?
And, are all 3rd orders Secular?
Thanks!

Used to be, third order members had to get permission to marry. Such is no longer the case.

There are secular third orders, and “regular” third orders. “Regular” third orders are the religious sisters working out in the world. “Regular” comes from “regula” meaning “rule.” The St. Cecilia (Nashville) Dominicans are an example of Third Order Regular Dominicans.

HTH.

Blessings,
Cloisters

 

[Sunflower15]

Do you know which Orders have a 3rd Order? I only know of the Franciscans, Carmelites & Dominicans. I wonder if there are any others.

I have looked for info regarding these. However, every site explains contradictory things. It seems to me that now that lay members of the Church are becoming more active, these will flourish. I had never heard of them until about a year ago!

I am considering…well maybe I should say, opening up to the possibility. I don’t think this is something one can choose oneself…it must come from above, as with any other vocation.

Also, I am divorced, not re-married, for over 15 yrs. My ex- remarried and has a new family.

Will divorce exclude me?

Thanks!

 

[CarmeliteGirl25]

Do you know which Orders have a 3rd Order? I only know of the Franciscans, Carmelites & Dominicans. I wonder if there are any others.

I have looked for info regarding these. However, every site explains contradictory things. It seems to me that now that lay members of the Church are becoming more active, these will flourish. I had never heard of them until about a year ago!

I am considering…well maybe I should say, opening up to the possibility. I don’t think this is something one can choose oneself…it must come from above, as with any other vocation.

Also, I am divorced, not re-married, for over 15 yrs. My ex- remarried and has a new family.

Will divorce exclude me?

Thanks!

Almost all religious congregations in the Church have secular vocation orders for laity. Even those who aren’t attached to big orders like the Franciscans or Carmelites. One such order is the Intercessors of the Lamb in Omaha, NE. Here is their website:

bellwetheromaha.org/companions/

Their order is called the Companions to the Intercessors of the Lamb.

You have to read up on which charism you feel called to like the Franciscans, Carmelites, Dominicans, etc. I was doing some searching on the web after looking at your profile and found a Secular Franciscan Community in your diocese:

sanpedrocenter.org/secular-franciscans-orlando.php

There is also a Discalced Carmelite Order for the Seculars (laity):

stjosephocds.com/

Here are the Lay Dominicans (St. Martin de Porres community; go down to Florida listings):

domcentral.org/oplaity/laycat.htm#south

I think this is the closest community to you:

St. Catherine of Siena Group
Beth Carkeet, Moderator
517 Inwood Lane
Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937
(407) 773-0235

It’s about 1 hour from Orlando.

 

[CarmeliteGirl25]

Also, I am divorced, not re-married, for over 15 yrs. My ex- remarried and has a new family.

Will divorce exclude me?

Thanks!

Divorce should not exclude you since you didn’t remarry. But that is something you would have to ask the Vocation Director of the group.

I found this list through Florida Catholic:

SECULAR COMMUNITIES

Lay Carmelites, St. James: First Saturdays, begins with Mass at 8 a.m., followed by meeting and spiritual development until 11:30 a.m., St. James Cathedral, 215 N. Orange Ave., Orlando. Contact: Kathleen Richardville, 407-898-3902.

Lay Carmelites, St. Therese of the Child Jesus and Holy Face: First Saturdays, begins with Mass at 8:15 a.m., followed by meeting and formation in Carmelite spirituality, St. Peter Parish, 359 W. New York Ave., DeLand. Contact: Kathleen, 386-668-4814 or gekagibb@comcast.net.

Lay Carmelites, St. Therese of the Child Jesus: Fourth Saturdays, begins with Mass at 9 a.m., followed by a meeting, Ascension Parish, 2950 N. Harbor City Blvd., Melbourne. Contact: Agatha Bobitka, TOC, 321-253-2833.

Lay Carmelites, St. Therese Community 1015: Fourth Tuesdays, 10 a.m. after Mass and Benediction, St. Vincent de Paul Parish, 5323 E. County Road 462, Wildwood. Contact: Mary Dillon, TOC, 352-259-4198.

Lay Carmelites: For information about other communities throughout the Diocese of Orlando, contact Steve Riddle, regional coordinator, 407-855-9954.

Secular Order of Discalced Carmelites: First Saturdays, 8:30 a.m. prayer, 8:45 a.m. Mass, 9:30 a.m.-noon meeting and study of Carmelite saints and rule, St. Joseph Parish, 5210 Babcock St. N.E., Palm Bay. Contact: Kathy Stauffacher, OCDS, 321-242-4504.

Secular Franciscan Fraternity, San Damiano: St. Mark Parish, Summerfield. Contact: Kathryn Hampel, SFO, 352-750-6334.

Secular Franciscan Order, Lady Poverty Fraternity: First and third Tuesdays, begins with evening prayer at 7 p.m., Mary, Mother of God Chapel, San Pedro Spiritual Development Center, 2400 Dike Road, Winter Park. Meeting follows. Contact: Dan Hardester, SFO, danhardester@yahoo.com.

Secular Franciscan Fraternity: Fourth Saturdays, 10 a.m., Queen of Peace Parish hall, Ocala. Secular Franciscans commit themselves by promise, not vow, to live the Gospel life of Jesus Christ in the spirit of St. Francis of Assisi. 352-854-5647 or 352-793-7071.

Secular Franciscan Order, St. Francis Fraternity: First Sundays, 12:30 p.m., St. Francis of Assisi Parish, Building B, 834 S. Orange Blossom Trail, Apopka. Call Jeane Fwaynos, SFO, 407-869-6716.

Secular Franciscan Fraternity, Little Flowers of St. Francis: Second Saturdays, following the 8:30 a.m. Mass, parish house 5, Church of the Epiphany, 201 Lafayette St., Port Orange. Peg, 386-677-7089.

Secular Order of the Servants of Mary (Servite), Mary, Queen of the Servants Community: Second Saturdays, 10:30 a.m., Our Lady of Grace Parish center, 300 Malabar Road, Palm Bay. Laypeople who promise to live the Gospel life, especially the Servite charisms of social justice, compassion and hospitality, using the life of Mary as example. Contact: Phil Borsik, SOSM, 321-728-0509…

Secular Order of the Servants of Mary (Servite), Our Lady of Sorrows Community: Second Fridays, 9:30 a.m., St. Timothy Parish ministry building, Lady Lake. Secular Servites are laypeople who commit themselves by promise to live the Gospel life of Jesus Christ, and to deepen the knowledge and acts of devotion to Mary. Contact: Donald Siple, SOSM, 352-750-4877.

Secular Order of the Servants of Mary, St. Peregrine Community: Second Saturdays, 10:30 a.m., St. Catherine of Siena Parish, St. Peregrine Room, 2750 E. Osceola Parkway, Kissimmee. Contact: Adriana Bentum-Tilus, SOSM, 407-288-3701.

 

[Cloisters]

Do you know which Orders have a 3rd Order? I only know of the Franciscans, Carmelites & Dominicans. I wonder if there are any others.

I have looked for info regarding these. However, every site explains contradictory things. It seems to me that now that lay members of the Church are becoming more active, these will flourish. I had never heard of them until about a year ago!

I am considering…well maybe I should say, opening up to the possibility. I don’t think this is something one can choose oneself…it must come from above, as with any other vocation.

Also, I am divorced, not re-married, for over 15 yrs. My ex- remarried and has a new family.

Will divorce exclude me?

Thanks!

No, divorce will not exclude you from a third order secular.

Before entering vowed religious life, though, there has to be an annulment.

HTH

Blessings,
Cloisters

 

[ThomasEugene]

Almost all religious congregations in the Church have secular vocation orders for laity. Even those who aren’t attached to big orders like the Franciscans or Carmelites. One such order is the Intercessors of the Lamb in Omaha, NE. Here is their website:

bellwetheromaha.org/companions/

Their order is called the Companions to the Intercessors of the Lamb.

Hey, I am a member of the Intercessors of the Lamb and i am a Companion. As far as I know The hermits and Companions are of one public association of the faithful.