Walking the walk--Stations of the Cross

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PRmerger said:
Ah, Leslie. Again! Here’s something *else *that you believe that’s not in the Bible. Unless you have a verse that says “no other book matters”? Chapter and verse, please.

And, of course, the Stations of the Cross are in the Gospel, except for the one about Veronica. 🤷
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Ah yes me again and that tiresome Bible…They are events in Christs life that have been adapted by the church and called the stations of the Cross…Nothing wrong with this, but they are not “Stations of theCross” in the Word
 
Leslie_Polley said:
Ah yes me again and that tiresome Bible…They are events in Christs life that have been adapted by the church and called the stations of the Cross…Nothing wrong with this, but they are not “Stations of theCross” in the Word
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Yes, Leslie, we can happily agree that the phrases “stations of the Cross” are not “in the Word”.

You have joined us Catholics, however, in believing things that are not “in the Word”. Just from the discussions we’ve had here you’ve told us that you believe:
Originally posted by Leslie:It was not the nails that held Christ to the cross, it was love.
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That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

You also believe:
Originally posted by Leslie: And YES, EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE
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That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

And you posted this:
Originally posted by Leslie: no other book matters
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That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.” 🤷

If I am wrong, show me where it says these phrases in the Word:

-'It was not the nails that held Christ to the cross, it was love"
-EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE
-“no other book matters”
 
The above are things you’ve told me, Leslie, that you believe but are not in the Word.

Another thing you’ve mentioned that’s also not in the Word is altar calls and infant dedications. Not in the Word.

Now, some things that you have NOT mentioned, but you possibly also believe that are not in the Word:
  1. There will be no more Apostles.
  2. Public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
  3. The canon of scripture is closed.
  4. The canon of the New Testament itself.
  5. Scripture interprets itself.
If I am wrong, please show me these phrases above, #1-5, in the Word.
 
Absolutally…they are His chosen people. The gentiles were graffed in. Peter was to spread the Word tho the Jews and Paul to the gentiles. and of course Jesus was a Jew, if the Jews were His chosen people what else would He have been.
 
PRmerger said:
Yes, Leslie, we can happily agree that the phrases “stations of the Cross” are not “in the Word”.

You have joined us Catholics, however, in believing things that are not “in the Word”. Just from the discussions we’ve had here you’ve told us that you believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

You also believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

And you posted this:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.” 🤷

If I am wrong, show me where it says these phrases in the Word:

-'It was not the nails that held Christ to the cross, it was love"
-EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE
-“no other book matters”
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You know you push things to the wall. I really believe that you just like to push buttons…When you are talking about things of Faith, or things, to be validated, it must be in the Bible, I want to see them there, and that is the final word. However I do read other books, listen to other songs, and sometimes even used those phrases to make a point. This does not mean for on second that I will accept a Biblical statement without Biblical back up. The "Stations of the cross, were taken from the things that scriptually happen to Christ. If they did not I would reject them. As I said, if you want to say them, say them, as long as you are praying to Jesus and not a saint or to Mary, which is not in the Bible. and Yes, everything that has to do with Christ has to be in the Bible…no other book…
 
PRmerger said:
Yes, Leslie, we can happily agree that the phrases “stations of the Cross” are not “in the Word”.

You have joined us Catholics, however, in believing things that are not “in the Word”. Just from the discussions we’ve had here you’ve told us that you believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

You also believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

And you posted this:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.” 🤷

If I am wrong, show me where it says these phrases in the Word:

-'It was not the nails that held Christ to the cross, it was love"
-EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE
-“no other book matters”
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I wrote my reply on the other one of these posts…read that. I hope you can understand what I am saying…I will nnot hold my breath.
 
PRmerger said:
It doesn’t say that in Scripture.
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The Bible is the only book I need to have, to refer to in all matter concerning Christ. When dealing with gardening I use a book on gardening, not a book on repairing a tv, or a cook book when cooking, not a book on how to make a dress…understand…I hope so
 
Leslie_Polley said:
You know you push things to the wall. I really believe that you just like to push buttons…When you are talking about things of Faith, or things, to be validated, it must be in the Bible, I want to see them there, and that is the final word.
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As you wish, Leslie. But you don’t even follow your own rules. 🤷

Sooooo many things you profess are not in the Word. I don’t understand why you accept extra-biblical traditions of men, yet accuse Catholics of not being Biblical.
 
That is HUGE, Jharek. It was the Church that came first. 👍

And, to those who criticize Sacred Tradition, I like to say:

[SIGN]no Sacred Tradition, no Sacred Scripture. [/SIGN]

That is, if you didn’t have the Tradition, the oral teaching of Christ handed down, you would not have the Scriptures.
 
PRmerger said:
Yes, Leslie, we can happily agree that the phrases “stations of the Cross” are not “in the Word”.

You have joined us Catholics, however, in believing things that are not “in the Word”. Just from the discussions we’ve had here you’ve told us that you believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

You also believe:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.”

And you posted this:
That’s not “in the Word”, Leslie. Just like the phrase, “stations of the cross.” 🤷

If I am wrong, show me where it says these phrases in the Word:

-'It was not the nails that held Christ to the cross, it was love"
-EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE
-“no other book matters”
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Here is another perpect example of your mocking tones…Now I will come to your level since you cannot understand what I say…The words It was not the Nails…but love…Once again as I said before 3 times…these are words from a song, of course not in the Bible, just a way of showing how much He loved us…and you run it in the ground…agin makeing an example of something that was not there to begin with…I try to be very specific when I refer to something IN THE BIBLE or NOT in the Bible…You can take something so easy and make garbage out of it.
 
PRmerger said:
As you wish, Leslie. But you don’t even follow your own rules. 🤷

Sooooo many things you profess are not in the Word. I don’t understand why you accept extra-biblical traditions of men, yet accuse Catholics of not being Biblical.
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What have I professed that is not in the Word…Show me …what they are…I have not changed one thing since I have been on the forum…the Word of God DOES NOT CHANGE, and if I have done that point it out.
 
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So you see the Bible is the only book I need
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I responded: it doesn’t say that in the Bible.
Leslie_Polley said:
When all else is gone the Word of God will remain…where do you find that…in the Bible
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If you say that means the Bible is the only book you need, I’ll accept that. It’s not explicitly stated, but it could be argued that it’s implicitly expressed.

But then you ought to also accept that when the angel says to Mary, in Luke, “Hail, Full of Grace” that indicates that she was immaculately conceived. Another implicit, but not explicit, reference.
 
Leslie_Polley said:
What have I professed that is not in the Word…Show me …what they are…I have not changed one thing since I have been on the forum…the Word of God DOES NOT CHANGE, and if I have done that point it out.
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You have professed this:

It was love that held him to the cross, not nails.

That is not in the Word–it’s from a song. A song! You are getting your theology not from the Word of God but from a song?

Why can’t Catholics get their theology from the Apostles and their successors, but you can get your theology from a song?

You also professed this:

EVERYTHING I BELIVE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHRIST< HAS TO BE IN THE BIBLE.

That’s not in the Word, either.

Here I’ve just provided 2 examples of things you’ve said in our discussions, but I’m willing to bet that you also believe this:

Scripture interprets itself.

That’s not in the Word, either, is it, Leslie?

All I’m saying is that you’re not living by the creed that you hold Catholics to: that everything you believe about God has to be in the Bible.

If you could just admit that, then we could move on and discuss more questions you have on Catholic doctrine that you weren’t taught in your childhood and young adult catechesis.
 
PRmerger said:
I responded: it doesn’t say that in the Bible.

If you say that means the Bible is the only book you need, I’ll accept that. It’s not explicitly stated, but it could be argued that it’s implicitly expressed.

But then you ought to also accept that when the angel says to Mary, in Luke, “Hail, Full of Grace” that indicates that she was immaculately conceived. Another implicit, but not explicit, reference.
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Yes she was and Jesus was immaculate conception, not Mary. He was conceved without a mortal man…The Holy Spirit did it…He was sinless. And Thank you so much for the Bible and the Holy Word to be concidered one and the same. I don’t know what I would have done with out your O.K. I guess I would have believed it anyway.
 
PRmerger said:
I responded: it doesn’t say that in the Bible.

Thats because the Bible is the ONLY book I need, not the only person the Bible needs. I guess turning things around can be fun…of course it doesn’t say that in the Bible…Its MY opion…It’s the only book I need…

If you say that means the Bible is the only book you need, I’ll accept that. It’s not explicitly stated, but it could be argued that it’s implicitly expressed.

But then you ought to also accept that when the angel says to Mary, in Luke, “Hail, Full of Grace” that indicates that she was immaculately conceived. Another implicit, but not explicit, reference.
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