Walmart supports abortion

[catharina]

Understanding and accepting that women have a right to reproductive control over their own bodies.

A brand-new concept under the law - and a false one at that.
Granting women the right to kill their offspring is NOT a move forward in human rights.

 

[Zatzat]

Is the Catholic Church supporting abortion? No.
So you have no actual standard of comparison.

BTW, Walmart does support the Komen foudnation -
and the Komen foundation does give lots of money to PP.

IT’S NOT A QUESTION OF “MAY SUPPORT.” IT DOES SUPPORT.

Wal-Mart doesn’t support abortion. They give money to a charity that gives some money to Planned Parenthood.

Her analogy is sound, in that she is basically saying that no one suggests boycotting the Catholic Church…now follow along here;

There are Catholic Priests who molest kids, those priests are financially supported by the Catholic Church. Therefor, the Catholic Church gives money to Priests who molest kids.

She makes a good point. It would be a bit much to boycott the Church…just as it is a bit much to boycott Wal-Mart.

 

[catharina]

Wal-Mart doesn’t support abortion. They give money to a charity that gives some money to Planned Parenthood.

Her analogy is sound, in that she is basically saying that no one suggests boycotting the Catholic Church…now follow along here;

There are Catholic Priests who molest kids, those priests are financially supported by the Catholic Church. Therefor, the Catholic Church gives money to Priests who molest kids.

She makes a good point. It would be a bit much to boycott the Church…just as it is a bit much to boycott Wal-Mart.

As usual, you are confused and biased.
You already checked in to say you are a fan of Walmart.
Still you shouldn’t misquote another poster, no matter how defiant your views.
Only YOU speak for you, thanks be to God.

The poster said:
Raising the paranoia and telling people to boycott Wal-Mart because they may
support Susan G. Komen, which supports PP, is like saying, "Let’s boycott the
Catholic Church, because there are some “priests” who molest children.

Meaning in fact “maybe”.
Yet “Maybe” is a NO.
Walmart does support Komen. That’s a fact.
Get back to me when the Church gives tons of money to abortion providers.
'Til then, you lose.

 

[Zatzat]

As usual, you are confused and biased.
You already checked in to say you are a fan of Walmart.
Still you shouldn’t misquote another poster, no matter how defiant your views.
Only YOU speak for you, thanks be to God.

The poster said:
Raising the paranoia and telling people to boycott Wal-Mart because they may
support Susan G. Komen, which supports PP, is like saying, "Let’s boycott the
Catholic Church, because there are some “priests” who molest children.

Meaning in fact “maybe”.
Yet “Maybe” is a NO.
Walmart does support Komen. That’s a fact.
Get back to me when the Church gives tons of money to abortion providers.
'Til then, you lose.

Isn’t that why it’s an analogy?

In any event, I respect the fact that you don’t agree with my perception of the posters analogy.

 

[ALLGIRLS]

Understanding and accepting that women have a right to reproductive control over their own bodies.

Having “reproductive control” over your body means that if you don’t want to get pregnant, you don’t have sex. It doesn’t mean you get to end the life the human being that (over 99% of the time) YOUR actions brought into being.

That being said, if we boycotted every company that has some connection to Planned Parenthood, we’d all starve to death naked. My family is personally in a financial situation at the moment that FORCES me to shop at Wal-Mart. I don’t like it; they’re a little too white-trashy for me (there’s a reason those “People of Wal-Mart” e-mails exist!), but such is life. I used to shop at Target. I’m sure they’ve got some nefarious ties as well.

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[Zatzat]

Having “reproductive control” over your body means that if you don’t want to get pregnant, you don’t have sex. It doesn’t mean you get to end the life the human being that (over 99% of the time) YOUR actions brought into being.

That being said, if we boycotted every company that has some connection to Planned Parenthood, we’d all starve to death naked. My family is personally in a financial situation at the moment that FORCES me to shop at Wal-Mart. I don’t like it; they’re a little too white-trashy for me (there’s a reason those “People of Wal-Mart” e-mails exist!), but such is life. I used to shop at Target. I’m sure they’ve got some nefarious ties as well.

In Christ,

Ellen

In fairness to the couple who conceived. They were not alone in creating the life. If your God is real, he was complicit in the creation of life, as it was God who willed the soul into existence.

With God being omniscient, I don’t understand why he’d will a soul into existence, knowing full well that the fertilized egg will be aborted with the ’ morning after pill.’

 

[ALLGIRLS]

In fairness to the couple who conceived. They were not alone in creating the life. If your God is real, he was complicit in the creation of life, as it was God who willed the soul into existence.

With God being omniscient, I don’t understand why he’d will a soul into existence, knowing full well that the fertilized egg will be aborted with the ’ morning after pill.’

It’s called Free Will. Catholics aren’t Calvinists. My neighbor is an inconvenience to me. I’m sure God knows she’s there. So, should I be allowed to go blow her head off (yes, I’ve harbored very UnChristian thoughts about said neighbor, I admit), especially since I choose to live here?

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[catharina]

In fairness to the couple who conceived. They were not alone in creating the life. If your God is real, he was complicit in the creation of life, as it was God who willed the soul into existence.

With God being omniscient, I don’t understand why he’d will a soul into existence, knowing full well that the fertilized egg will be aborted with the ’ morning after pill.’

You’re a marvel of consistency.
Your two options ALWAYS:

1. Deny God.
2. Blame God.

 

[Zatzat]

It’s called Free Will. Catholics aren’t Calvinists. My neighbor is an inconvenience to me. I’m sure God knows she’s there. So, should I be allowed to go blow her head off (yes, I’ve harbored very UnChristian thoughts about said neighbor, I admit), especially since I choose to live here?

In Christ,

Ellen

Does God not play a roll in bringing life and souls into existence? Serious question.

 

[Zatzat]

You’re a marvel of consistency.
Your two options ALWAYS:

1. Deny God.
2. Blame God.

These are thoughts I have which articulate what I see as dilemma’s that I cannot wrap my mind around.

I hope these questions don’t make you uncomfortable, but I am genuinely seeking to understand how this dilemma is reconciled.

 

[graceandglory]

We must also stop buying things at Walmart because they sell stuff with the pink ribbon.

Tell your pastors and social groups that a boycott of Walmart must begin now.

Also on a much more closely related to death culture note, Walmart through its support of the communist government in China is directly connected to that governments forced abortion policy.

If you are a faithful Catholic it should be forbidden for us to step foot in that corporations stores.

Peace

I think that’s a really huge stretch.

 

[graceandglory]

As usual, you are confused and biased.
You already checked in to say you are a fan of Walmart.
Still you shouldn’t misquote another poster, no matter how defiant your views.
Only YOU speak for you, thanks be to God.

The poster said:
Raising the paranoia and telling people to boycott Wal-Mart because they may
support Susan G. Komen, which supports PP, is like saying, "Let’s boycott the
Catholic Church, because there are some “priests” who molest children.

Meaning in fact “maybe”.
Yet “Maybe” is a NO.
Walmart does support Komen. That’s a fact.
Get back to me when the Church gives tons of money to abortion providers.
'Til then, you lose.

Who doesn’t support Komen?
As for me, and my $$ we support American Cancer Society rather than Komen.

 

[graceandglory]

The Susan G. Komen foundation is a prominent leader in the fight against breast cancer and is a very worthy foundation to me. So I won’t be boycotting Walmart or products with a pink ribbon anytime soon.

Planned Parenthood isn’t just a place to go for abortions and birth control pills. Under and uninsured women can get breast cancer screenings, education regarding breast cancer, and breast cancer treatment programs from PP. So I will continue to give to the Komen Foundation and help them in their endeavor to find a cure and educate women about prevention.

Now THAT is a statement I will cry FOUL on!
And here’s proof why.
lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08041002.html

Komen is in bed with Planned Parenthood. And there are alternative places that Catholics who care about women and finding a cure for cancer to support.

 

[ALLGIRLS]

Does God not play a roll in bringing life and souls into existence? Serious question.

He plays a role, in that he created us male and female and ordained the marital act (sexual intercourse) to be means of bringing life and souls into the world (the only lives He brought into existence outside of normal sexual intercourse was Adam and Eve and Jesus. Even Mary, though conceived without sin, was conceived via Joachim and Anne having sex). He also gave us “rules” regarding sexual intercouse-that it shouldn’t be used outside of marriage or when a couple isn’t willing to “be fruitful and multiply”. However, He also gave us Free Will, which many use to disregard His rules, but it doesn’t change the natural outcome of their actions: you engage in intercourse, and you may become pregnant (or impregnate somebody). Just like if you jump off a cliff, God knows you’re probably going to die, but He doesn’t suspend the laws of gravity for you.

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[Zatzat]

He plays a role, in that he created us male and female and ordained the marital act (sexual intercourse) to be means of bringing life and souls into the world (the only lives He brought into existence outside of normal sexual intercourse was Adam and Eve and Jesus. Even Mary, though conceived without sin, was conceived via Joachim and Anne having sex). He also gave us “rules” regarding sexual intercouse-that it shouldn’t be used outside of marriage or when a couple isn’t willing to “be fruitful and multiply”. However, He also gave us Free Will, which many use to disregard His rules, but it doesn’t change the natural outcome of their actions: you engage in intercourse, and you may become pregnant (or impregnate somebody). Just like if you jump off a cliff, God knows you’re probably going to die, but He doesn’t suspend the laws of gravity for you.

In Christ,

Ellen

I’m not certain if you actually answered my question. I’m certain that anything more than yes or no isn’t required.

Does God have a roll in bringing souls into existence when couples have sexual intercourse?

 

[revert_jen]

Komen is in bed with Planned Parenthood. And there are alternative places that Catholics who care about women and finding a cure for cancer to support.

Also, the Susan G Komen foundation endorses embryonic stem cell research, which kills even more babies. Unlike abortion and oral contraceptives, though, which it supports financially via Planned Parenthood, at least the embryonic stem cell research doesn’t increase the likelihood of breast cancer, which they are supposed to be trying to reduce.

And even if I wanted to support the organization, which I don’t, I wouldn’t do it by buying their stuff (which is a nauseating color and a transparent advertising gimmick), but by sending them money directly.

However, I don’t shop much at Walmart anyway, because I don’t like the way they do business. I’m not going to boycott every store that has the pink ribbon stuff because then I would be left with nowhere to shop except maybe the Total Wine. I don’t even like wine. (Yeah, I know, I’m a barbarian. )

–Jen

 

[ALLGIRLS]

I’m not certain if you actually answered my question. I’m certain that anything more than yes or no isn’t required.

Does God have a roll in bringing souls into existence when couples have sexual intercourse?

Ok, yes (obviously). So, now you can have your “gotcha” moment where you insist that God must be fine w/ abortion, then, since He brings these doomed babies into existence.

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[ALLGIRLS]

These are thoughts I have which articulate what I see as dilemma’s that I cannot wrap my mind around.

I hope these questions don’t make you uncomfortable, but I am genuinely seeking to understand how this dilemma is reconciled.

What you can’t seem to wrap your mind around is that God isn’t a puppet master who controls our (and nature’s) every move. It’s much more complicated than that. He created and set the whole thing in motion and made the rules, but gave us all free will at the same time. And outside of rare miracles, he doesn’t suspend the rules.

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[estesbob]

In fairness to the couple who conceived. They were not alone in creating the life. If your God is real, he was complicit in the creation of life, as it was God who willed the soul into existence.

With God being omniscient, I don’t understand why he’d will a soul into existence, knowing full well that the fertilized egg will be aborted with the ’ morning after pill.’

The same reason he willed you a soul knowing you would deny him and mock those who beleive in him.

 

[Zatzat]

The same reason he willed you a soul knowing you would deny him and mock those who beleive in him.

I’m mocking no one. Respectfully and politely pointing out a dilemma and noticing that my question isn’t being answered…is certainly not mocking.

If my question makes you uncomfortable, please let me know and shall leave this thread.