Was Fr. Hardon's "The Catholic Catechism" once considered the norm of Catholic teaching?

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In the later 1970s we were adrift. Many in the Church had forsaken the simplicity of the Baltimore Catechism, and those who were taught religion wallowed in the wasteland of other people’s opinions. Fr. Hardon’s Book was a beacon of hope for the time; however it did not go over well with the religious elite that wanted more of an anything-goes attitude. I am thankful for Fr. Hardon. As for the CCC, I welcomed it with open arms. It is the normative Catechism for our times. For those who chose not to follow it, they have to meet their maker, the same as all of us.
 
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In the later 1970s we were adrift. Many in the Church had forsaken the simplicity of the Baltimore Catechism, and those who were taught religion wallowed in the wasteland of other people’s opinions. Fr. Hardon’s Book was a beacon of hope for the time; however it did not go over well with the religious elite that wanted more of an anything-goes attitude. I am thankful for Fr. Hardon. As for the CCC, I welcomed it with open arms. It is the normative Catechism for our times. For those who chose not to follow it, they have to meet their maker, the same as all of us.
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Amen and God Bless, Memaw
 
thistle said:
You are wrong. The CCC is NOT infallible and the Pope’s statement that it “is a sure norm for teaching” is NOT an infallible declaration.
The CCC contains infallible and non-infallible teachings. To say the CCC is infallible would mean the non-infallible teachings are infallible which is nonsense.
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Seems you do like to misread everything I say. I said the Teaching Magisterium is infallible. And the CCC which was put out under the Church’s authority, may fall under that too. I also said I was not 100% sure where I read that, so please stop trying to argue with me over everything I say. You have your opinion and I have mine., but I think your just wanting to argue and I think that is nonsense, God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
Fr. Hardon worked very closely with the Vatican and I would trust everything he ever said or wrote!!! The Holy Father asked him to write the catechisms for Mo. Teresa’s Nuns. So he was trusted by the Pope. That’s enough for me. He will be a canonized a Saint one day. Hopefully in my lifetime and I have been blessed to have known him. God Bless, Memaw
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I’m not knocking Fr. Hardon’s catechism. It’s a great book. I’m just trying to clarify for the OP that it’s a whole different type of thing when compared to the universal Catechism. The precursor to our present Catechism was the Catechism of the Council of Trent. That was the last time the Church had issued a universal Catechism.

Of course, there were other local or indiviudal catechisms that came along (e.g. the Baltimore catechism, Fr. Hardon’s Catechism, the brothers Lawler and Cardinal Wuerl’s Catechism). And these were all well and good. But they’re not universal catechisms. That’s not a criticism of their content but rather a factual statement about their origin.
 
Joe_5859 said:
I’m not knocking Fr. Hardon’s catechism. It’s a great book. I’m just trying to clarify for the OP that it’s a whole different type of thing when compared to the universal Catechism. The precursor to our present Catechism was the Catechism of the Council of Trent. That was the last time the Church had issued a universal Catechism.

Of course, there were other local or indiviudal catechisms that came along (e.g. the Baltimore catechism, Fr. Hardon’s Catechism, the brothers Lawler and Cardinal Wuerl’s Catechism). And these were all well and good. But they’re not universal catechisms. That’s not a criticism of their content but rather a factual statement about their origin.
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I didn’t ever say you were “knocking” Fr, Hardon’s Catechism, I was just stating how much I trusted him and how he worked with the Vatican for many, many, many years. I am sure others who knew him could verify that. He also told me that everything he wrote, every lecture he gave, was written in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. Fr. Hardon’s Catechism contains the truth, just as the CCC does. They each have their special use.
Please pray for Fr, Hardon’s Canonization. He told me once that we are living in a great time to be a Catholic. A time to stand strong for our Holy Church and be willing to live the life of the early martyrs and in some cases to even die a martyr and to teach our children the same. He said America was quickly becoming a pagan country. He said and I quote,

" Unless we recover the zeal and the spirit of the first century Christians-- unless we are willing to do what they did and pay the price that they paid, the future of our country, the days of America are numbered." God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
I didn’t ever say you were “knocking” Fr, Hardon’s Catechism, I was just stating how much I trusted him and how he worked with the Vatican for many, many, many years. I am sure others who knew him could verify that. He also told me that everything he wrote, every lecture he gave, was written in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. Fr. Hardon’s Catechism contains the truth, just as the CCC does. They each have their special use.
Please pray for Fr, Hardon’s Canonization. He told me once that we are living in a great time to be a Catholic. A time to stand strong for our Holy Church and be willing to live the life of the early martyrs and in some cases to even die a martyr and to teach our children the same. He said America was quickly becoming a pagan country. He said and I quote,

" Unless we recover the zeal and the spirit of the first century Christians-- unless we are willing to do what they did and pay the price that they paid, the future of our country, the days of America are numbered." God Bless, Memaw
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Sure. I was just clarifying in case that was how you had interpreted my post. If your purpose was merely to sing Fr. Hardon’s praises, I will join you in song. 👍
 
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