Was Jesus a Palestinian?

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Jesus was a Jew, a direct decendent of David and, thus of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Incidently, the same (being a Jew) is true of all 12 of the initial apostles.

Blessings,

Brian
 
Chorister said:
Is there no such thing as a Jewish Palestinian?
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Not during Jesus incarnation (time on earth). Palestine did not exist (as a concept or name) until after the birth of Christianity when the Romans renamed parts of Isarel/Judea as “Palestine”.

When people refer to Palestian today, they most often are referring to or suggesting arab ancestry (descendant of Abraham through Ishmael).

Blessings,

Brian
 
In a way, yes, because he was a Jew from the Palestine area, as compared with the Hellenistic Jews in the Greek-speaking world.
 
Well, He wasn’t born in China.

But as been pointed out, “Palestine” wasn’t used as a geographical designation until after His nativity.
 
Suppose we were talking of a man living AD 1300 or so who was living on the plains of North American in an area which is now part of Nebraska.

We wouldn’t call him a Nebraskan, would we --even though he lived in what is ‘now’ Nebraska?
 
I’ve always wondered why Jesus is always depicted as a European person with blue eyes and light brown hair.

Why is he not depicted as an arab looking person with dark eyes and hair?

Anyone know? I asked the ‘ask the apologist’ but no answer.

What is wrong with a little historical accuracy regarding his physical appearance?
 
Robbinson said:
Jesus was a Jew, a direct decendent of David and, thus of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Incidently, the same (being a Jew) is true of all 12 of the initial apostles.

Blessings,

Brian
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Hi Brian, I hope you don’t mind me asking you a question. (sorry if I go off topic for a moment). I was in RCIA last year. One thing that always bothered me is why Jesus is called a “descendant” of David when he was adopted by Joseph?

I have step-children, but do I say they are descended from me???
No. I don’t understand this Catholic teaching. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

thanks:)
 
Lisa44 said:
Hi Brian, I hope you don’t mind me asking you a question. (sorry if I go off topic for a moment). I was in RCIA last year. One thing that always bothered me is why Jesus is called a “descendant” of David when he was adopted by Joseph?

I have step-children, but do I say they are descended from me???
No. I don’t understand this Catholic teaching. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

thanks:)
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newadvent.org/cathen/06410a.htm
Genealogy of Jesus
 
Probably because the artists working in the Renaissance–one of the greatest artistic periods in history–did so many Biblically themed subjects, and tended to use themselves or their neighbors as models, and much of the art we see came from this period–or as a ‘reaction’ to it (the anemic blue-eyed blonde Jesus is usually a Victorian one from the “Pre-Raphaelite” period; there are many other works in which he is depicted as darker, and even as physically ‘hearty’. They just aren’t so well known. Just as now, certain ‘styles’ were ‘in’ for certain periods. Look at many Renaissance “madonnas”–whether the woman portrayed was blonde or brunette (or “titian” haired), the ‘style’ often involved an artificially ‘high’ forehead, plucked eyebrows, etc. But works depicting Mary were not intended (nor those of Jesus, or the apostles) to be **portraits **or archetypes of what Mary (or Jesus or the apostles, etc.) ‘really’ or even ‘probably’ looked like.

Different ages have different ideas.
 
Robbinson said:
Not during Jesus incarnation (time on earth). Palestine did not exist (as a concept or name) until after the birth of Christianity when the Romans renamed parts of Isarel/Judea as “Palestine”.

When people refer to Palestian today, they most often are referring to or suggesting arab ancestry (descendant of Abraham through Ishmael).

Blessings,

Brian
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Yeah, this is my understanding as well. If memory serves I think the Romans meant to insult the Jewish population with the name. Something to do with the Philistines; not sure 'bout that though.
 
Tantum_ergo said:
Probably because the artists working in the Renaissance–one of the greatest artistic periods in history–did so many Biblically themed subjects, and tended to use themselves or their neighbors as models, and much of the art we see came from this period–or as a ‘reaction’ to it (the anemic blue-eyed blonde Jesus is usually a Victorian one from the “Pre-Raphaelite” period; there are many other works in which he is depicted as darker, and even as physically ‘hearty’. They just aren’t so well known. Just as now, certain ‘styles’ were ‘in’ for certain periods. Look at many Renaissance “madonnas”–whether the woman portrayed was blonde or brunette (or “titian” haired), the ‘style’ often involved an artificially ‘high’ forehead, plucked eyebrows, etc. But works depicting Mary were not intended (nor those of Jesus, or the apostles) to be **portraits **or archetypes of what Mary (or Jesus or the apostles, etc.) ‘really’ or even ‘probably’ looked like.

Different ages have different ideas.
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Thanks:)
 
Lisa44 said:
Hi Brian, I hope you don’t mind me asking you a question. (sorry if I go off topic for a moment). I was in RCIA last year. One thing that always bothered me is why Jesus is called a “descendant” of David when he was adopted by Joseph?

I have step-children, but do I say they are descended from me???
No. I don’t understand this Catholic teaching. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

thanks:)
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If they’re “merely” step-children, no. But if you adopted those step-children, or any child for that matter, then yes, they are considered descended from you.
Lisa44 said:
Ok, thanks.
Through Mary he is a descendant of David.🙂
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While Mary’s ancestry is not clearly identified, whether or not she is of Davidic descent is irrelevant. Jesus’ Davidic ancestry is through St. Joseph. Adoption gives full legal rights and reckoning, even more so during those times.
 
porthos11 said:
If they’re “merely” step-children, no. But if you adopted those step-children, or any child for that matter, then yes, they are considered descended from you.

While Mary’s ancestry is not clearly identified, whether or not she is of Davidic descent is irrelevant. Jesus’ Davidic ancestry is through St. Joseph. Adoption gives full legal rights and reckoning, even more so during those times.
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Hi:) Hmmm… I thought a descendant was a relative. For instance, if I had no biological children then I have no descendants. No?

Would I call an adopted child a descendant? Well, did they descend from me?

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de·scend /dɪˈsɛnd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-send] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object) 1. to go or pass from a higher to a lower place; move or come down: to descend from the mountaintop.
2. to pass from higher to lower in any scale or series.
3. to go from generals to particulars, as in a discussion.
4. to slope, tend, or lead downward: The path descends to the pond.
5. to be inherited or transmitted, as through succeeding generations of a family: The title descends through eldest sons.
**6. to have a specific person or family among one’s ancestors (usually fol. by from): He is descended from Cromwell. **
7. to be derived from something remote in time, esp. through continuous transmission: This festival descends from a druidic rite.
8. to approach or pounce upon, esp. in a greedy or hasty manner (fol. by on or upon): Thrill-seekers descended upon the scene of the crime.
9. to settle, as a cloud or vapor.
10. to appear or become manifest, as a supernatural being, state of mind, etc.: Jupiter descended to humankind.
11. to attack, esp. with violence and suddenness (usually fol. by on or upon): to descend upon enemy soldiers.
12. to sink or come down from a certain intellectual, moral, or social standard: He would never descend to baseness.
13. Astronomy. to move toward the horizon, as the sun or a star.
–verb (used with object) 14. to move downward upon or along; go or climb down (stairs, a hill, etc.).
15. to extend or lead down along: The path descends the hill.
 
Lisa44 said:
Hi:) Hmmm… I thought a descendant was a relative. For instance, if I had no biological children then I have no descendants. No?

Would I call an adopted child a descendant? Well, did they descend from me?
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If adopted, yes. An adopted child becomes your son or daughter, and therefore, your descendant.
 
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