Was jesus white????

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Valtiel:
I wonder if this has been asked before, but if jesus was not purely white and the depiction of him as a stereotypical white man is incorrect, why does the church have such an image indorsed???
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Were first-century Palestinan Jews white ?​

 
Bobby A. Greene:
No, he was blue like a smurf.
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Like this: http://bluebuddies.com/help/jpg/Chlorhydris.jpg ?​

bluebuddies.com/help/smurf_names_and_list_of_the_smurfs.htm

smurf.com/homepage.html

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and has the same name as a demon: “The demons of hell were classified according to their powers and specialties, and each was given a name…some demon names (often also angelic names) include Aztahoth, Azrael, Gedulahel, Geburahel, Tiphereth, Binahel, Ruach Chokmahel, Ketheriel, Shaddal and Tzabaoth.”
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😉 Sorry, I just hate color coding human beings. I just don’t believe that Jesus was a northern European caucasian if that is what you meant by ‘white’.

Anthropologically speaking, given the gene pool of the region of Palestine/Israel where he was born, he could have shared the same phenotype of modern day Palestinians. It was surmised that Jesus would have been about 5’ 2" tall and about 110 lbs given the standard height and weight of a male at that time.

Try this website, top rendition:

vcmagazine.org/vcm/article.asp?volume=5&issue=10&article=jesuslooklike

And what is your Anthropologic opinion and what is your Catholic opinion? Thanks.
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BioCatholic:
well, to say the least, anyone of very light color most likely would not have survived too long in the middle eastern desert 2000 years ago. Melanin is the protective pigment in our skin that gives it a dark color. Semetic people have a darker complexion because they require much more melanin to protect their skin.

the romans were darker colored people, but still had trouble with the sun and skin conditions.

Jesus as a European skin color in the desert like that. probably not.
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I was just reading an 2nd century discription of the Roman
Emperor Nero. He was described as being Blonde. I also seen pictures of Augustus with Blonde hair
 
If we want to know what Jesus looked like, why not take the Biblical account of Isaiah as truth? He described the coming Saviour and there can be no mistaking that it WAS Jesus he was referring to here:
Isaiah 53: 1-5
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1Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
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2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
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3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
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4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
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5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed
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This is without a doubt Jesus. Isaiah tells us that there would be nothing about him that would attract others to him physically. In other words, he looked like an ordinary man and the representations of him as tall, handsome and perfect are just the product of a very good imagination. And notice Isaiah didn’t talk about colour. Why? Chances are, it either didn’t matter… or in the prophecy colour was not shown… or, most likely, Jesus looked like any other man of his own time.
 
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Valtiel:
I wonder if this has been asked before, but if jesus was not purely white and the depiction of him as a stereotypical white man is incorrect, why does the church have such an image indorsed???
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There are images of Christ of every possible race and ethnicity on earth. They are all equally correct.
 
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Ignatius:
There are images of Christ of every possible race and ethnicity on earth. They are all equally correct.
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or equally incorrect…
 
Bobby A. Greene:
Take a look at this Anthropological reconstruction of what a first-century Palestinian Jew would look like:

gbgm-umc.org/smumc-ca/Real_Face.htm
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I think the most accurate depiction of Christ is that of early Byzantine icons. Most posses the same facial construction as that found in the shroud of turin.

The picture you gave looks more like how I envisioned Peter 🙂
 
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Ignatius:
There are images of Christ of every possible race and ethnicity on earth. They are all equally correct.
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I’m an average white, anglo-saxon male and quite frankly I’m offended when I see an anglo-saxon looking Jesus. I find it rediculous to envision Jesus looking like myself or being of my culture because that would be nothing short of what pagans did with their gods - they would embody the projection of what a group of people thought about themselves. It turns “we are the image of God” into “God is in our image.”

The Son of God chose to embody a Jew. Represent Him as a Jew.
 
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BioCatholic:
well, to say the least, anyone of very light color most likely would not have survived too long in the middle eastern desert 2000 years ago. Melanin is the protective pigment in our skin that gives it a dark color. Semetic people have a darker complexion because they require much more melanin to protect their skin.

the romans were darker colored people, but still had trouble with the sun and skin conditions.

Jesus as a European skin color in the desert like that. probably not.
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People adapted to sun exposure two ways either being naturally selected for darker skins in areas of greater sunlight or technologically by wearing clothes. the second option is a more recent development but explains how people of northern ancestry managed to settle in all parts of the globe prior to the invention of SPF 50
the natural distribution of expected skin coloration has a lot to do with latitude and right now in South Carolina I’m sitting at about the same latitude as Jerusalem is at.
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 So a slightly fairer Christ is not completely impossible….just improbable

   The sad truth of the matter is that Christ probably looked like someone who would get stopped at an airline check point.
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mike182d:
I think the most accurate depiction of Christ is that of early Byzantine icons. Most posses the same facial construction as that found in the shroud of turin.

The picture you gave looks more like how I envisioned Peter 🙂
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Hi Mike,

Not just Peter, but possibly the other eleven apostles as well.

The forensic reconstruction they did is intriguing, since that is an idea I had toyed with since I read about the forensic reconstruction of unknown skulls, hotel fire burn victims, and possible victims of serial killers. It turns out sometimes that the reconstruction closely matches a later produced photograph of the victim.

Some forensic reconstruction of Egyptian mummies, particularly the Pharoahs, have turned out to be uncannily similar to a bust of that person found later in a different tomb. So this forensic reconstruction of Jesus might possibly represent a basic phenotype of Christ himself, even though it wasn’t done with the Savior’s actual remains.

(Genotype determines phenotype.)
 
Jesus was Jewish,so he would look like what ever a Jew of the time looked like.
 
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JOHNYJ:
Jesus was Jewish,so he would look like what ever a Jew of the time looked like.
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Which is how, exactly, given that “Jew” is not a race but is a religion? Most Jews may be racially Semitic, but not all of them are, either today or yesterday.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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mlchance:
Which is how, exactly, given that “Jew” is not a race but is a religion? Most Jews may be racially Semitic, but not all of them are, either today or yesterday.

– Mark L. Chance.
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That is probably why the poster that you quoted wrote a Jew ‘of his time’. After the fall of Jerusalem, the Romans sold many Jewish people into slavery all through the Roman empire. The Jewish people of today are much more racially mixed then they would have been in Jesus’ time.
 
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severinus:
I have never liked the image of the ‘Swedish Jesus’ so often seen in America.
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Jesus could never have been born in Sweden anyway. Where would you find three wise men and a virgin?
 
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deb1:
That is probably why the poster that you quoted wrote a Jew ‘of his time’. After the fall of Jerusalem, the Romans sold many Jewish people into slavery all through the Roman empire. The Jewish people of today are much more racially mixed then they would have been in Jesus’ time.
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Not necessarily. The fact that Jews had been dispersed throughout the ancient world, from Spain to India, argues to the contrary.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
In Mexico we have a song (early 70s) called “la piel de Dios”

(God skin) the song goes WHAT COLOR IS GOD’S SKIN???
the answer is in that same song: “WHITE, BLACK, RED, YELLOW, THATS THE COLOR OF GOD’S SKIN”

so CASE DISMISSED
 
For one (name removed by moderator)ut, take a look of the image on the Shroud of Turin.
 
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