Was Judas sent to Hell or was he forgiven?

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That’s all well and good. We still have absolutely no idea if Judas went to Hell or not.
 
ServantofChristJesus said:
In Matthew 26:15 it states: “and asked, “What are you willing to give me if I deliver him over to you?” So they counted out for him thirty pieces of silver.”_ Here Judas is making a choice to betray The Lord.
But in Luke 22:3 “Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.” It’s not Judas’ fault as Satan possed him.
And in The John 13:27 "As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.” Here Jesus knows Satan possed Judas and is speaking to Satan, not Judas.
In Matthew Judas says "I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.” Then “So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.” And in Acts 1:18 “(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.”
He seems very repentant and overcome with guilt so much he killed himself.
So is Judas in Hell or was he forgiven?
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We do not know. The Church only infallibly defines if a canonized saint is in heaven, but makes no pronouncements as to who is in hell. However, based on Jesus’ words, it doesn’t look promising.

Archbishop Fulton Sheen put it nicely: “The greatest tragedy of Judas is that he could have been Saint Judas”. He most certainly meant this in the sense of “even after he betrayed Jesus.”
 
We don’t know. The Church doesn’t say that anyone, even Judas, is in Hell.
 
Judas killed himself. The Church doesn’t even have to declare where he went to. And I hope she never has to…
 
KJW5551 said:
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Vico:
Jesus said that Judas was lost (John 17:12).
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I don’t know what to tell you. Read the responses here. The question has been asked and answered.
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Judas was lost as Jesus said. However the opinions differ as to if there is a Divine Revelation. So much more for someone else. We do know that the angels are cast to hell. The Catholic teaching is that without special Divine Revelation no one can know with the certainty of faith, if he be in a state of grace.

Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, p. 262:
The reason for the uncertainty of the state of grace lies in this that without a special revelation nobody can with certainty of faith know whether or not he has fulfilled all the conditions which are necessary for the achieving of justification. The impossibility of the certainty of faith, however, by no means excludes a high moral certainty supported by the testimony of conscience. Cf. S. Tho. 1, 2, 112, 5.
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DaveBj said:
He stated that it would be better for him if he had never been born,
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I’ve always wondered if in this quote, Jesus was referring to the earthly end Judas would meet, and no so much his “spiritual” future.

You correctly state that Judas gave the money back saying he had condemned innocent blood. I’ve always wondered if Judas’ hanging himself was consistent with his Jewish understanding of “an eye for an eye” and it was his way of trying to offer God repentance for what he had done. Blood for blood to even the score. I would never categorically say Judas is in Hell. Not only because the CC has never stated anyone is in Hell, but because Judas’ actions, subsequent to his betrayal of Christ speak to his anguish over his “mistake” and what I perceive to be, his attempt to rectify it.
 
What other evident truth are you going to question next? The existence of the devil?
 
@Aulef You do realize that the Church does not teach that anyone who commits suicide goes to Hell, right? CCC 2283
 
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First of all, the CCC isn’t always infallible teaching. Second and most important, except for the current Catechism, suicide has always been forbidden and considered a mortal sin.

Thus, in good conscience, and considering this didn’t need to be defined as dogma yet, I would rather stay with traditional and millennial teaching.
 
joeybaggz said:
I’ve always wondered if in this quote, Jesus was referring to the earthly end Judas would meet, and no so much his “spiritual” future.
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Jesus also called him the “son of perdition”. That sounds pretty eternal to me.

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It is a mortal sin. However the catechism reads “by ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance.”

At the end of the day this thread is about whether or not we can say person X, Y, or Z is in Hell. We cannot. End of story.
 
We don’t know. We don’t know that he, or anyone else is in Hell.

Though it’s worth mentioning that Jesus forgave the other people who killed him.
 
DaveBj said:
Jesus also called him the “son of perdition”. That sounds pretty eternal to me.
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Without the saving action of our Lord, we are all sons of perdition. Still doesn’t convince me that Judas is in Hell. Guess it is a belief, though, that satisfies the needs of those who lack either compassion or a sense of hope and mercy.
 
Aulef said:
First of all, the CCC isn’t always infallible teaching. Second and most important, except for the current Catechism, suicide has always been forbidden and considered a mortal sin.
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It would only be a mortal sin if there were no mitigating circumstances (such as mental incapacity) reducing culpability!
 
Aulef said:
First of all, the CCC isn’t always infallible teaching.
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The CCC contains a summary of all Church teachings, both infallible AND non-infallible. Catholics are BOUND by both. We are not just bound by dogma. We are bound by ALL Church doctrine.
 
We are talking about Judas, who, just like Cain, rejected redemption…
 
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