Was Muhammad deceived by Satan?

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epileptic seizure is another possibility, the first attribution of epileptic seizures to Muhammad comes from the 8th century Byzantine historian Theophanes who wrote that Muhammad’s wife “was very much grieved that she, being of noble descent, was tied to such a man, who was not only poor but epileptic as well.” (wikipedia)
 
GaryTaylor said:
epileptic seizure is another possibility, the first attribution of epileptic seizures to Muhammad comes from the 8th century Byzantine historian Theophanes who wrote that Muhammad’s wife “was very much grieved that she, being of noble descent, was tied to such a man, who was not only poor but epileptic as well.” (wikipedia)
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Yes, I’ve heard of this as well, combined with the Narcissistic Personality Disorder “diagnosis”, which, quite frankly, looks very convincing if you look at the evidence people point to in support of it.
 
…And then of course…epileptic seisure, schizophrenia, and delusions of grandeur, may be signs of demonic possession.
 
I am sorry to hear that…and I agree that epilepsy can be a medical condition. But possession cannot be ruled out either.
 
Epileptic seizure can cause “aura” a dreamlike state. Not all with this condition experience this. However the medication is much advanced since the 7th century.

Yes, back then it was often viewed as demonic. Not really my point.

This very well could explain what in fact happened to Mohammad. Fact that he became extremely violent and lacked compassion is pretty much well documented in the Quran. At what point demonic comes in to play with consistant murder is anyones guess. 🤷
 
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This very well could explain what in fact happened to Mohammad.
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Here is a man who created a Christ-denying religion which is the antithesis of Christianity. Thousands (if not millions) of Christians were murdered under the Islamic yoke. If you would like to believe that Muhammed suffered from some health problems….go for it.

I say he was deceived, and then possessed, by demons.
 
Islam believes in the “jinn” who are basically demons who are capable of “righteousness”.
 
Holly3278 said:
Muslims claim that Muhammad received visits from the Archangel Gabriel while in the cave who revealed the Quran to him but we know that it could not have been the Archangel Gabriel because Gabriel would not have revealed a falsehood to anyone. Therefore, was Muhammad actually deceived by a demon or possibly Satan himself?
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I personally think what Mohammad claimed was just total cods wallop. I’ve read the Quaran and that Mohammad guy seems so bitter and twisted and just plain damn intolerant of everything and everyone. So much hatred. I reckon he made up the most part if not all of his so called encounter with Gods angel. He most likely did all that so that what ever else he came up with would be taken on board as if it be Gods will. He was full of pure nasty thoughts and simply wanted a position of power and idolization to get his wicked way with the world he so despised.
 
TEPO said:
Islam believes in the “jinn” who are basically demons who are capable of “righteousness”.
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But they also claim you should never consult with them even though some of them can be as good as Jesus.

Yet their much loved prophets, some of them did communicate with them and even in one account were specifically asked to stay in a location and look after the people, then told to leave.

Reminds me of Shintoism. On an entirely different scale of course.
 
Zundrah said:
But they also claim you should never consult with them even though some of them can be as good as Jesus.

Yet their much loved prophets, some of them did communicate with them and even in one account were specifically asked to stay in a location and look after the people, then told to leave.

Reminds me of Shintoism. On an entirely different scale of course.
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Yeh, I deleted the post because I didn’t want to start learning anything from Islam. I don’t want to know it’s teachings because I don’t know who’s teachings they are. Gods or Satans…?

I mean mans or Satans.
 
Mickey said:
I say he was deceived, and then possessed, by demons.
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I say your opinion is a valid as anyone else’s at this point.

However powerful or hypnotic this influence may have been, it is not the chief nor most pernicious work of Islamic activitity today. Which btw is the deception of billions of children, those very children whom Christ said “Woe to him that offends one of these little ones”

Geez, from the very awakening of consciousness of the child they begin to deceive them, then instill in them with the utmost solemnity what they themselves were deceieved with in the same manner, even if by chance they no longer believe it.

However, this continues till the deception by habit has grown into the childs nature, thus learned behavior. So they studiously deceive the children on the most important subject in life, which is life, so as to be impossible to uproot it but by the Grace of God.

Then, just to compound the issue they then introduce them to a completely different world of science and reality, which of course cannot by any means be reconciled with the beliefs instilled in them. Then to boot, they leave them to find their own way out of all these contradictions. Amazing really.

Really shouldn’t be any mystery why the middle east looks as it does today.
 
TEPO said:
Yeh, I deleted the post because I didn’t want to start learning anything from Islam. I don’t want to know it’s teachings because I don’t know who’s teachings they are. Gods or Satans…?

I mean mans or Satans.
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Yes, best to steer clear of them.
 
GaryTaylor said:
However powerful or hypnotic this influence may have been, it is not the chief nor most pernicious work of Islamic activitity today. Which btw is the deception of billions of children, those very children whom Christ said “Woe to him that offends one of these little ones”

Geez, from the very awakening of consciousness of the child they begin to deceive them, then instill in them with the utmost solemnity what they themselves were deceieved with in the same manner, even if by chance they no longer believe it

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We are all the products of our upbringing and if we’d been born of Muslim parents we’d be Muslims. All judgement belongs to God (fortunately) In Muslim countries children are not subjected to immoral and amoral drug-taking, occultic diet on television. The girls dress modestly and remain virgins till marriage. (A bit like it used to be in the West 50 years ago )
 
Insinuations don’t make it so.

You need to start again.
So let me get this straight, in other words it is best to critique the teachings of another faith without knowing what they are?
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You claimed, as it shows above, that we were criticizing them while not knowing what they teach.
 
No point going into this. Read over again from the start.

If you interpret what I say in any way other than what it actually meant, then by all means please enjoy doing so. I don’t mind at all.
 
I personally definitely believe that Muhammad was deceived by Satan. After all, Satan can appear as an angel of light in order to deceive people:

And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
(2 Corinthians 11:14 RSV)

Indeed, the Bible warns that men such as Muhammad would come along:

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.
(2 Timothy 4:3-4 RSV)

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits.
(Matthew 7:15-20 RSV)

As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?” And Jesus answered them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places: all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs. "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because wickedness is multiplied, most men’s love will grow cold. But he who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.
(Matthew 24:3-14 RSV)

False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
(Mark 13:22 RSV)

Indeed, Muhammad denied that Jesus is our Lord and Master.

For admission has been secretly gained by some who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
(Jude 1:4 RSV)

That said, I am wondering if there are any verses that state that no more prophets will come or that no more public revelation will be issued after the time of Jesus? I am wondering this because many Muslims claim that the Bible foretells yet another prophet which they believe to be Muhammad who was of course, a false prophet.
 
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