Was my baptism invalid? CDF says "We Baptize" Invalid

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Hi Father,

I just wanted to keep updated those who might want to know, namely yourself, @(name removed by moderator), and @StudentMI:

I’m feeling much better. I had a phone meeting with my spiritual director today (who is a priest in another diocese), and he was wonderfully helpful and reassuring. Supportive of me potentially having a conditional baptism and confirmation, and calming about how to see my state in the meantime.

I just wanted to thank folks here for their prayers. I was starting to spiral out a little (that little doubt that got planted was growing in a disturbing way, and then the fear that I might never be able to cut it off), and I’m feeling so much better having spoken to my spiritual director and knowing there’s a way forward to peace of mind, and that this isn’t just a closed door.

(I should say, rather than a way forward to peace of mind, that even right now I can have peace of mind, knowing that we’re going to actually examine the evidence to assess the question of moral certainty.)
 
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It’s NOT a vice. In fact, all the Saints say that we should pray for a happy death, and especially being able to receive the Sacraments before death.
 
Can a lay person administer conditional baptism in danger of death? I know that anyone can administer Baptism if they know an unbaptized person is in danger of death.
 
This sounds like any old person’s baptism could be in doubt. After all, I don’t know what the pastor who baptized me said, my parents are both dead, the pastor is certainly dead. Of course, I assume the man did the baptism correctly. But, of course, I can’t be absolutely sure. And everybody over a certain age can say the same thing. Should we ALL be conditionally baptized? That just doesn’t sound right.
 
StudentMI said:
I think a case can be made for conditionally baptizing most if not all converts. But I’m not in charge of the Vatican.
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Well, I think we know which ones have the right rubric, if followed correctly. It’s when ministers start free styling that the problems occur.

I wonder - when we renew our baptismal vows - does that do anything if the baptism wasn’t valid? The whole thing is weird. You thought you were baptized yesterday, and today found out you weren’t.

I remember the day my wife and I found out that the Priest who married us was secretly married himself. Lots of questions, but ultimately not a problem for us.
 
I noticed in my EC church- for the baptism texts… we have it another way…
it’s " X is baptised in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"

X standing for the child’s baptismal name.

Obviously there’s no place for the “I” or “we” in this case.

So Vatican is fine with this form?
 
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ReaderT said:
Funny, because in Eastern Catholicism there is neither “we” nor “I” - the Priest says “The servant of God [name] is baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

And their baptisms are considered valid.
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that’s just interesting. So the EC version is fine. it’s almost like a third person view- just saying the person’s name.

whereas the “I” and “we” are first person.
 
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