Was St.Patrick a Protestant?

[StrawberryJam]

I could be mistaken, but it seems that he is most probably born in Scotland than anywhere else.
Not trying to open up a debate on tradition, since that would be futile.
No matter of importance in the end.

 

[Axion]

Patrick was a Briton - which in its original meaning is that he is of the celtic peoples who inhabited Roman Britain, that is modern England and Wales. The Britons were Catholic Christians before the Anglo-Saxon invasions, and were driven west into Wales and Cornwall during the 400s AD. They were thus nothing to do with the Scots, (known as Picts at the time), who were not Christian and had no Roman links.

The Britons while holding to Catholic Christianity and retaining Roman Titles, (like Decurion, which Patrick uses of his father), were a people with their backs against the wall. They were being attacked by pagan Saxons from the east, Picts from the North, and pagan Irish from the west. Embittered by defeat, they refused to send missions to the Anglo-Saxons - who were eventually evangelised by Augustine and later Irish missions.

Many people think Patrick probably came from wales or the West of England. His missionary tradition is very like that of the Welsh Saint, Saint David.

On his Catholicism, in his letter to the supposedly Christian raider, Coroticus, he says, interestingly, “Roman Christians in Gaul behave quite differently: it is their custom to send holy, capable men to the Franks and other nations with several thousand soldiersso as to redeem Christian prisioners, yet YOU would rather kill or sell them on to a far-off tribe who know nothing of the true God.”

 

[NHInsider]

Did I miss his citations in that article somewhere? I must have missed them all.

there is one in-line citation and then the closing paragraph gives his sources:

The two writings of his that survive, his Confession and the Letter to the Soldiers of Coroticus, both attest to his Catholic faith.

The Letter—which Patrick wrote in a blazing fury after some of his newly baptized converts had been slaughtered during a raid by a British ruler—records his belief in the episcopacy, the ministerial priesthood, confirmation, the value of monks and nuns, purgatory, priestly absolution, and “doing hard penance” (the last two, he said, the murdering soldiers needed). His later Confession has a mild tone (not being a response to a massacre) and mentions many of the same Catholic distinctives, as well as fasting, loss of salvation, and Patrick’s private revelations.

Another important source for Patrick’s Catholicity is a Latin hymn written in praise of him by his assistant bishop, Sechnall, who records many of Patrick’s beliefs, among them the sacrifice of the Mass, merits, the fact the Church is built on Peter, and baptismal regeneration.

You can read the sources here:

Letter
Confessio
Hymn

 

[CWBetts]

I could be mistaken, but it seems that he is most probably born in Scotland than anywhere else.
Not trying to open up a debate on tradition, since that would be futile.
No matter of importance in the end.

That is what EWTN’s page says, but I have another source that says ROman Britian, so who knows for sure?

 

[NHInsider]

That is what EWTN’s page says, but I have another source that says ROman Britian, so who knows for sure?

Depending on where the line was that year, those two are not mutually exclusive . . .

 

[AmbroseSJ]

Part of where this arises is the fact that the Irish Church, because of their geographical location was cut off from much of what was going on in Europe. Different monastic orders had customs that would have been alien to orders in mainland Europe. They were also great scribes and copied many manuscripts.
I beleive this physical ‘separation’ from the Church in Rome gave rise to the Protestant notion that St. Patrick was not Catholic.

I take a harder line, and believe it was entirely disingenuous of English Protestants to claim that St. Patrick was Protestant, as their political motives were obvious. This propaganda was chiefly aimed at Irish Catholics of the time. Oppressed with harsh penal laws, it was difficult for them (the Irish Catholics) to mount any real opposition until the mid-19th century. But by then the English Protestants had moved on to such liberalizing theology, that it was of no more interest to them. Until, that is today, when once again Protestants, and Baptists of all people, are resurrecting these ridiculous polemics as there are scarcely any knowledgable Catholics or Protestants these days to refute them, clouding the whole issue all over again. (Present company excepted of course! )

 

[alpharomeo3]

I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of the Invocation of the Trinity:
I believe the Trinity in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.

I bind to myself today
The virtue of the Incarnation of Christ with His Baptism,
The virtue of His crucifixion with His burial,
The virtue of His Resurrection with His Ascension,
The virtue of His coming on the Judgement Day.

I bind to myself today
The virtue of the love of seraphim,
In the obedience of angels,
In the hope of resurrection unto reward,
In prayers of Patriarchs,
In predictions of Prophets,
In preaching of Apostles,
In faith of Confessors,
In purity of holy Virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.

I bind to myself today
The power of Heaven,
The light of the sun,
The brightness of the moon,
The splendour of fire,
The flashing of lightning,
The swiftness of wind,
The depth of sea,
The stability of earth,
The compactness of rocks.

I bind to myself today
God’s Power to guide me,
God’s Might to uphold me,
God’s Wisdom to teach me,
God’s Eye to watch over me,
God’s Ear to hear me,
God’s Word to give me speech,
God’s Hand to guide me,
God’s Way to lie before me,
God’s Shield to shelter me,
God’s Host to secure me,
Against the snares of demons,
Against the seductions of vices,
Against the lusts of nature,
Against everyone who meditates injury to me,
Whether far or near,
Whether few or with many.

I invoke today all these virtues
Against every hostile merciless power
Which may assail my body and my soul,
Against the incantations of false prophets,
Against the black laws of heathenism,
Against the false laws of heresy,
Against the deceits of idolatry,
Against the spells of women, and smiths, and druids,
Against every knowledge that binds the soul of man.

Christ, protect me today
Against every poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against death-wound,
That I may receive abundant reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me,
Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ at my right, Christ at my left,
Christ in the fort,
Christ in the chariot seat,
Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks to me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.

I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of an invocation of the Trinity,
I believe the Trinity in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.

Let’s see the belief in the trinity!
the belief in the trinity is not unified in all protestant sects

The virtue of the love of seraphim,
In the obedience of angels,
In prayers of Patriarchs,
In predictions of Prophets,
In preaching of Apostles,
In faith of Confessors
The intersession of angels and profits and apostles seems catholic to me

 

[Matorin]

Aha this thread is gold. Either theoldman is joking in which case there is no need to lambast him, or he is a moron in which case there is STILL no need to lambast him. Yelling/gesticulating wildly/giving actual examples to a moron won’t ever change their mind.

St. Paddy grew up Catholic. He spoke like a Catholic. He was less ritualistic than many Protestants think of Baptists today, and since he was Evangelical (that is, he evangelized, something we see the Protestant side of the church doing much more of and the Catholic/Orthodox much less) I would imagine most Protestants would more readily identify with him than later Saints.