Water pistol prizes draw a sharp rebuke

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   	 	 	 	  	 	  	 ALBANY -- A Common Council member criticized the Albany Public Library for handing out water pistols as prizes for students who read four books this summer.Council member James P. Sano, a Democrat, said the library's Pine Hills branch sent the wrong message to children at a time the city has formed a task force on gun violence.
“They must have been out of rubber knives and candy cigarettes that day,” Sano said as he waved the toy gun during the council’s caucus last week. “They couldn’t give out books or bookmarks?”
Tim Burke, the acting director of the library, said it was a mistake that won’t happen again.
“They buy these bulk packages of prizes that included a couple of those,” he said. “It was just a few out of many, many prizes we handed out.”
Sano said he took the water pistol from a 9-year-old boy while working as a lifeguard, and the child told him where he had received it.
“I was surprised and disappointed that this was a prize that was given away,” he said. “We shouldn’t send mixed messages to kids that we give a replica of a firearm.”
A replica firearm? I heard Mr. Sano interviewed on the radio and he described the “weapon” as clear plastic with neon works inside. And what gives him the right to steal some poor kid’s toy?
 
That’s liberal anti-Christian lunacy at one of its silliest.
 
Replica of a firearm? Good grief, I’ll bet the kids didn’t see it that way. They were out to have some fun with water. When my three sons were little, I decided I would NEVER allow guns in the house. Then, they started making guns out of twigs, Tinker Toys, whatever they could lay their hands on. What they came up with was far more dangerous than toy guns…they could have poked an eye out! (I never understood their natural inclination toward guns, given we didn’t have guns in the house and we never talked about them.) Soooo, I decided I’d give them water guns but not toy guns that actually looked like real guns. It solved the problem of eyes being poked out or tripping with a “loaded” Tinker Toy. Of course, we did have to have a word about not squirting water in the house…I say kids are smart enough to know the difference between a cheap plastic water gun and the real thing.
 
A replica firearm? I heard Mr. Sano interviewed on the radio and he described the “weapon” as clear plastic with neon works inside. And what gives him the right to steal some poor kid’s toy?
Yep, the clear multicolored plastic must be oh so threatening. :rolleyes:

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The left strikes again! I have nothing about a person not wanting guns in their home. I mean, it is their home. What I don’t like is telling everyone else they must feel the same way. My husband (and his father too) collect guns. We own a thousand pound safe where they are kept. My father-in-law used to just keep his under the bed (now he has a safe also). When my husband’s brother committed suicide, guess what!? He did not use a gun. Kind of destroys the idea that guns are the reason for these type of things.

I think education that guns are not toys and safe familiarization is the key. My kids don’t touch any gun unless my husband is right there and has double checked it himself.

I am pretty sure I’ll get flamed for this post.:rolleyes: Sorry if I offended you, it’s just my feelings, I don’t expect y’all to feel the same way.
 
I remember water pistols when I was a kid. The only thing about it was squirting the other kids with water, and each of us squirting back. It was fun on a hot summer day. We turned out ok. 🙂
 
…Sano said he took the water pistol from a 9-year-old boy while working as a lifeguard…
So this Sano person was working at a pool or a beach and couldn’t tell a water toy from a weapon?
 
Makes this grandparent want to give all my grandkids two and the holster to go with it. LOL

Sad when an obvious toy is taken from any child for PC reasons.
 
The left strikes again! I have nothing about a person not wanting guns in their home. I mean, it is their home. What I don’t like is telling everyone else they must feel the same way.
They’re doing nothing of the kind. A democratically-elected local government politician is telling a subordinate government agency not to give prizes which in his opinion are inappropriate. He is doing his job. If you don’t agree with him, move to his electorate and vote him out.
My husband (and his father too) collect guns. We own a thousand pound safe where they are kept. My father-in-law used to just keep his under the bed (now he has a safe also). When my husband’s brother committed suicide, guess what!? He did not use a gun. Kind of destroys the idea that guns are the reason for these type of things.
Another straw-man argument. No one has ever said that “guns are the reason for people committing suicide”. But it has been abundantly proven everywhere that if a gun is used in a suicide attempt, the attempt is far more likely to succeed. Your sample of one case is outweighed by the combined statistics of thousands of suicide attempts.
I am pretty sure I’ll get flamed for this post.:rolleyes:
I guess you mean “I know someone will correct me because I’ve stated things which I know have no logical or factual basis.”
Sorry if I offended you, it’s just my feelings, I don’t expect y’all to feel the same way.
I don’t think anyone here is “offended” by faulty logic and misrepresentation of the facts; we have to deal with them all the time. Maybe you should try rational thinking instead of just letting your feelings dictate what you say.
 
We are talking about a water toy, so how does this equate to the discussion of “gun control”? except maybe that we need to separate water toy control from gun control.:confused: When we start ranting about gun control, when it is really about toy control, we feed into the faulty PC idea that water “pistols” &“guns” are dangerous. 🤷

Of course this all would not happen if the library just gave out condoms.:rolleyes: But then he might have gotten in trouble for making water “bombs”😉
 
They’re doing nothing of the kind. A democratically-elected local government politician is telling a subordinate government agency not to give prizes which in his opinion are inappropriate. He is doing his job. If you don’t agree with him, move to his electorate and vote him out.
Another straw-man argument. No one has ever said that “guns are the reason for people committing suicide”. But it has been abundantly proven everywhere that if a gun is used in a suicide attempt, the attempt is far more likely to succeed. Your sample of one case is outweighed by the combined statistics of thousands of suicide attempts.
I guess you mean “I know someone will correct me because I’ve stated things which I know have no logical or factual basis.”
I don’t think anyone here is “offended” by faulty logic and misrepresentation of the facts; we have to deal with them all the time. Maybe you should try rational thinking instead of just letting your feelings dictate what you say.
So you believe that the reason for condemning these prizes was correct? Do you support the lifeguard taking it away.

How does someone commit suicide with a water pistol?
 
They’re doing nothing of the kind. A democratically-elected local government politician is telling a subordinate government agency not to give prizes which in his opinion are inappropriate. He is doing his job. If you don’t agree with him, move to his electorate and vote him out.
At the time he was doing his job as a lifeguard, which, unless the pool had a stated policy against squirt guns gives him no right to steal the kid’s toy.

He took it so he could be a demagogue and wave it around at the next council meeting like Joe McCarthy with his list of Commies. Certainly he has a right to question the prizes the library is giving out – but not to be a bully and take some innocent kid’s toy.

Btw, the prizes, including the infamous water pistol, were donated by the boxful to the library by a dollar-store type place, a friend told me a lot of it looked like it came straight out of the Oriental Trading Co. catalog. I suppose in future the library will have to detail someone to search thru all the prizes, or give out McD’s gift certificates instead until another council member raises a stink about that.
 
So you believe that the reason for condemning these prizes was correct? Do you support the lifeguard taking it away.

How does someone commit suicide with a water pistol?
Wow, three more straw-men in one short post. I made no comment on whether I agreed with the library giving out the water pistols, or the lifeguard taking it away. Most council swimming pools have rules against water pistols and require their lifeguards to confiscate them and any other item which is being used to annoy other patrons.
And no-one suggested you can commit suicide with a water pistol. It was Rebelecka who brought up suicide.

My wife and I are by no means “anti-Christian lunatics”, “politically correct”, “anti-toy” nor “anti-fun”. We are intelligent committed Catholics who have brought up our children to be practising Catholics, to apply their intelligence to issues regardless of the prevailing “politically correct” ideas, and with lots of fun and toys, but we decided at the start they would have no toy guns or any other war toys, (water-squirting devices which are not made to resemble guns were fine, provided they weren’t used in an aggressive or intimidatory way) and they never have had any, and are now well-adjusted adults who don’t think they have missed out on anything.
 
And what gives him the right to steal some poor kid’s toy?
The piece doesn’t say the toy was stolen. It says Sano, acting as a lifeguard, took it away. Where was he lifeguarding? Was having such toys at this place against policy? If so, the child was in the wrong. End of discussion on this point.

I teach. If a kid brought a water gun to school, I’d take it from him. Does that make me a thief?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Wow, three more straw-men in one short post. I made no comment on whether I agreed with the library giving out the water pistols, or the lifeguard taking it away. Most council swimming pools have rules against water pistols and require their lifeguards to confiscate them and any other item which is being used to annoy other patrons.
And no-one suggested you can commit suicide with a water pistol. It was Rebelecka who brought up suicide.

My wife and I are by no means “anti-Christian lunatics”, “politically correct”, “anti-toy” nor “anti-fun”. We are intelligent committed Catholics who have brought up our children to be practising Catholics, to apply their intelligence to issues regardless of the prevailing “politically correct” ideas, and with lots of fun and toys, but we decided at the start they would have no toy guns or any other war toys, (water-squirting devices which are not made to resemble guns were fine, provided they weren’t used in an aggressive or intimidatory way) and they never have had any, and are now well-adjusted adults who don’t think they have missed out on anything.
I asked you three questions-i didnt accuse you of being anti-christian and one of the questions( the last one, was tongue in cheek.) It appears that the answer to the first two questions is yes. Your gross overreaction to my post leads me to believe you would have confiscated the toy gun also. I. on the other hand, would have went out and got my own water pistol and started a water pistol fight with the kid.

Do you really think that your kids are well adjusted becuase you didnt let them use anything that looked like a gun when they were kids??? My girls are well adjusted commited Catholics and they used to bomb the hell out of our cats with a Teen Age Mutant Turtle Blimp. !!!
 
The piece doesn’t say the toy was stolen. It says Sano, acting as a lifeguard, took it away. Where was he lifeguarding? Was having such toys at this place against policy? If so, the child was in the wrong. End of discussion on this point.

I teach. If a kid brought a water gun to school, I’d take it from him. Does that make me a thief?

– Mark L. Chance.
Water toys don’t belong in the classroom. But they do seem like something that you would take to the pool or beach. At lest we take water cannon and water toys when we get to go.😃
 
Water toys don’t belong in the classroom.
Clarification for my school: They don’t belong anywhere on campus.
But they do seem like something that you would take to the pool or beach. At lest we take water cannon and water toys when we get to go.😃
I agree, at least in principle. But where did the confiscation take place? What were the rules regarding such toys at this location? No one has answered these questions. Common decency insists we not assume the worst case scenario in the absence of facts.

Let’s be honest: There’s plenty to bash Democrats about without having to make stuff up.

😃

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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