We are all Catholics

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Posted this in another thread but thought it deserved it’s own:)
Any Christian who believes in The Trinity is a “Catholic” by this definition. That includes Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists.
Sorry but the JW and LDS folks are still considered cults.😃
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Whosoever will be saved : before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholick Faith.

Which Faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled : without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.

And the Catholick Faith is this : That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;

Neither confounding the Persons : not dividing the Substance.

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son : and another of the Holy Ghost.

But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one : the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son : and such is the Holy Ghost.

The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate : and the Holy Ghost uncreate.

The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible : and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal : and the Holy Ghost eternal.

And yet they are not three eternals : but one eternal.

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated : but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible.

So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty : and the Holy Ghost Almighty.

And yet they are not three Almighties : but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God : and the Holy Ghost is God.

And yet they are not three Gods : but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord : and the Holy Ghost Lord.

And yet not three Lords : but one Lord.

For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity : to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;

So are we forbidden by the Catholick Religion : to say there be three Gods, or three Lords.

The Father is made of none : neither created, nor begotten.

The Son is of the Father alone : not made, nor created, but begotten.

The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son : neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons : one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.

And in this Trinity none is afore, or after other : none is greater, or less than another;

But the whole three Persons are co-eternal together : and co-equal.

So that in all things, as is aforesaid : the Unity in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.

He therefore that will be saved : must thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation : that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

For the right Faith is that we believe and confess : that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man;

God, of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds : and Man, of the Substance of his Mother, born in the world;

Perfect God, and Perfect Man : of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting;

Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead : and inferior to the Father, as touching his Manhood.

Who although he be God and Man : yet he is not two, but one Christ;

One, not by the conversion of the Godhead into flesh : but by taking of the Manhood into God;

One altogether, not by confusion of Substance : but by unity of Person.

For as reasonable soul and flesh is one man : so God and Man is one Christ.

Who suffered for our salvation : descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead.

He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty : from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies : and shall give account for their own works.

And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting : and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the Catholick Faith : which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son : and to the Holy Ghost;

As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be : world without end. Amen.
 
I am glad you are a Catholic, whew. So, when are you going to start going to Mass?
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Damascus said:
I am glad you are a Catholic, whew. So, when are you going to start going to Mass?
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The sunday after you take Holy Communion with me at the FC Methodist Church.
One Lord, One Baptism;)
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sandmountainsli said:
The sunday after you take Holy Communion with me at the FC Methodist Church.
One Lord, One Baptism;)
WP
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I am not allowed to.

I am pretty sure you are not restricted to by your Church, but even so, mine wont let you.😦
recieve in my Church.

But now that you are a Catholic it must be okay. 🙂 !!

You would be a great addition to the Catholic Church I must say.

I’ll give you a ref.
 
Damascus said:
I am not allowed to.

I am pretty sure you are not restricted to by your Church, but even so, mine wont let you.😦
recieve in my Church.

But now that you are a Catholic it must be okay. 🙂 !!

You would be a great addition to the Catholic Church I must say.

I’ll give you a ref.
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you’re not permitted to take communion in a non-catholic church? what’s the reasoning behind that, If i may ask.
 
Non Catholic churches do not have the same communion. Catholics (and Orthodox), because their priests/bishops have apostolic succession, can consecrate the bread and wine into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, of Jesus Christ. We call this the Real Presence and we believe that this is evidenced in Scripture from John chapter 6 and confirmed by Paul’s epistles, and has been practiced as such from the time of the apostles.

Even those non Catholic churches which believe in the Real Presence, such as very high church Episcopalian, Lutherans, and some others, cannot consecrate their bread and wine, as they lack valid succession, and in addition, lack full understanding of the Real Presence as taught from the time of the apostles and practiced since then; Lutheran ‘consubstantiation’ differs from ‘transsubtantiation’ in a subtle but extremely important way.

The word ‘communion’ indicates a unity. To be ‘in communion’ with someone means to have a unity.

Sadly, Catholic and Protestant churches lack full unity. Thus, a Catholic cannot be ‘in communion’ with a Protestant, nor a Protestant with a Catholic, when it comes to receiving the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, of Christ. Even Catholics who are not in a state of grace should not receive.

As for Protestant communions, I could not in good conscience permit myself to take and eat bread and juice in their church because it would be a false symbol that I accept this as being equivalent to the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, of Christ. It is not. (No offense to Protestants. I’m speaking as a Catholic. I’m not saying that as a Protestant you should not receive, or that you’re not ‘good enough’. This is something else entirely different.)
I long for the day that we all have the fullness of truth. I profess that truth is the Catholic Church. But all have free well to accept, or reject, this truth.
 
Woe is me!
The original point of my thread has been destroyed by Sectarian Violence:(
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Damascus:
I know you do! I really wish we were all in unity. Its so sad really. Jesus wants us to be in unity…

SO when are you coming to Mass?? Do it for him!!!

No point in my coming to Mass, they would deny me communion as if I were a Heathen.
It would be much easier if all of you would just become part of the Congregational Methodist Wing of the Invisible Catholic Church.
We offer Communion to all baptised Christians no matter the ilk.
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sandmountainsli said:
No point in my coming to Mass, they would deny me communion as if I were a Heathen.
It would be much easier if all of you would just become part of the Congregational Methodist Wing of the Invisible Catholic Church.
We offer Communion to all baptised Christians no matter the ilk.
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You should go to Mass anyway. I think you would really enjoy it. You can always go to 2 services in one week! Why not? Beats christmas shopping!😉
 
Damascus said:
You should go to Mass anyway. I think you would really enjoy it. You can always go to 2 services in one week! Why not? Beats christmas shopping!😉
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The only RC Church in this county holds Mass in the Spanish Tongue.
I only speak Saxon. Other than that I wouldn’t mind going.
WP
 
sandmountainsli said:
The only RC Church in this county holds Mass in the Spanish Tongue.
I only speak Saxon. Other than that I wouldn’t mind going.
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Rats! And you would even go!

Maybe go anyway. Get an english missal and you can try to follow along!!!

You might not even care what the words are right off since you will be able to better observe the other details that are different…

Think about it… It may be interesting or even more so without the words at first.
 
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