We are living in the final days!

[legeorge]

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Is this the same person who thinks that the movie Mulholland Drive is the second coming of Christ?

 

[Pious_Redeemer]

Talking about movies about our Lord. The worst I saw was “the last temptation of Christ”, the most violent and exaggerated one “the passion of the christ” and the best, the most moving, with very, very good music was Franco Zeffirelli’s “Jesus of Nazareth”. I saw a few other ones but I have forgotten their titles - I guess they weren’t quite remarkable enough, one way or the other, for me to remember them.

 

[Pace]

[QUOT*E=Benadam]Interesting.
Can you expand on that and tie it in with your thoughts about Satan’s deception?

David Lynch and Lars von Trier have been making movies since the 70’s. I believe that they exhausted themselves (in a sense, gave us their very flesh to eat) with Mulholland Drive and Dogville, respectively. They brought us the Christ in every way but the way that says “I am the Christ”.

Now, I don’t know what Mel Gibson thinks of von Trier’s movies, but I heard that he said about Mulholland Drive , “I hate movies I can’t understand”.

So he, and very many along with him, chose rather to ‘pull’ God down from heaven in his own way. I don’t mean to say that he consciously did this…but only that there is some kind of blindness at work here. For we also have to ask ourselves whether we love or hate a Christ we can’t understand (at first viewing) or that can’t be made into a ‘movie’ according to our tastes and timing.

Anyway, that’s my theory. I still hope that somehow both kinds of movies can work together, but it is becoming more and more difficult to reconcile the two philosophies behind them.

 

[Pace]

Benadam:

Interesting.
Can you expand on that and tie it in with your thoughts about Satan’s deception?

David Lynch and Lars von Trier have been making movies since the 70’s. I believe that they exhausted themselves (in a sense, gave us their very flesh to eat) with Mulholland Drive and Dogville, respectively. They brought us the Christ in every way but the way that says “I am the Christ”.

Now, I don’t know what Mel Gibson thinks of von Trier’s movies, but I heard that he said about Mulholland Drive , “I hate movies I can’t understand”.

So he, and very many along with him, chose rather to ‘pull’ God down from heaven in his own way. I don’t mean to say that he consciously did this…but only that there is some kind of blindness at work here. For we also have to ask ourselves whether we love or hate a Christ we can’t understand (at first viewing) or that can’t be made into a ‘movie’ according to our tastes and timing.

Anyway, that’s my theory. I still hope that somehow both kinds of movies can work together, but it is becoming more and more difficult to reconcile the two philosophies behind them.

 

[Pace]

Benadam:

Interesting.
Can you expand on that and tie it in with your thoughts about Satan’s deception?

David Lynch and Lars von Trier have been making movies since the 70’s, and with Mulholland Drive and Dogville I think they have exhausted themselves artistically. I might even be so bold as to describe what they have done as “give their flesh for the life of the world”. I even think that with those two movies art itself has reached it’s end - at least until a great change takes place in the world.

And Mel Gibson supposedly said about Mulholland Drive, “I hate movies I can’t understand.” And it seems that many agree with him in that philosophy.

 

[Benadam]

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David Lynch and Lars von Trier have been making movies since the 70’s, and with Mulholland Drive and Dogville I think they have exhausted themselves artistically. I might even be so bold as to describe what they have done as “give their flesh for the life of the world”. I even think that with those two movies art itself has reached it’s end - at least until a great change takes place in the world.

And Mel Gibson supposedly said about Mulholland Drive, “I hate movies I can’t understand.” And it seems that many agree with him in that philosophy.

‘Mullholland Drive’ and ‘Dogville’ are on my to view list. Did Mel mean “can’t understand” as too deep for him or that he didn’t understand it as an artform? Like parents not understanding their kids tastes?

 

[Pace]

‘Mullholland Drive’ and ‘Dogville’ are on my to view list. Did Mel mean “can’t understand” as too deep for him or that he didn’t understand it as an artform? Like parents not understanding their kids tastes?

I’m not sure what Mel meant by that - if he even said it. My guess is that he was frustrated over a movie not revealing itself in one viewing. In other words, I believe that most movies are more and more teaching us the habit of hating, or resenting, mystery . And I really wonder if The Passion isn’t the most powerful expression possible of this resentment.