We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus

[BrewMax]

I had a personal revelation this morning and I wanted to share it with you. While I was praying, it occured to me that saying that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ means more than the saving prayer that many Protestants say; WAY more! Faith in Jesus begins with living the Christian life as he laid out for us in the Scriptures. He said that if we love him to keep his commandments. Faith is to live and grow in the Christian life and as our faith grows, our belief in Jesus gets stronger and our love for him grows as well. Our JOY also gets bigger! What we do is all attributed to our faith so as to not brag about our works as Paul said. This is really what he meant. It actually runs right parallel to what James said “faith without works is dead”. This all means WAY much more than just merely believe in Jesus and what he did for us and then we are saved. Am I on the right track?? I would appreciate your thoughts!!

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Thats how this little protestant understands it.

maybe Im wrong

 

[MarcoPolo]

Am I on the right track?? I would appreciate your thoughts!!

Yes.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

I had a personal revelation this morning and I wanted to share it with you. While I was praying, it occured to me that saying that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ means more than the saving prayer that many Protestants say; WAY more! Faith in Jesus begins with living the Christian life as he laid out for us in the Scriptures. He said that if we love him to keep his commandments. Faith is to live and grow in the Christian life and as our faith grows, our belief in Jesus gets stronger and our love for him grows as well. Our JOY also gets bigger! What we do is all attributed to our faith so as to not brag about our works as Paul said. This is really what he meant. It actually runs right parallel to what James said “faith without works is dead”. This all means WAY much more than just merely believe in Jesus and what he did for us and then we are saved. Am I on the right track?? I would appreciate your thoughts!!

I agree When we have faith in Christ we do what it takes to increase our faith and trust by studying the Word of God, praying and being still so we can hear what God’s Will is for us and then follow it.

I have been a born again christian for 11 years and I have only grown in the last 4 years ONLY because I started to study the bible and by doing this have learned more about what it means to follow Christ. AMEN!!!

WOW!! What a change that has taken hold of me!! Even my unsaved husband has noticed:thumbsup:

I have gradually learned to trust more in God as I have seen Him work in my life and therefore, have grown in my faith and people can now see Christ through my actions.

Isnt my bolded statement what it is all about AMEN!!!

 

[PaulDupre]

That’s how I understand our Catholic faith.
God love you,
Paul

 

[MarcoPolo]

Even my unsaved husband has noticed:thumbsup:

I always enjoy your cheefrulness ALLFORHIM…but do you really call your husband “unsaved”? I wouldn’t judge him just yet…

 

[allischalmers]

Faith is a gift from God given to us because of His mercy and grace

 

[ALLFORHIM]

I always enjoy your cheefrulness ALLFORHIM…but do you really call your husband “unsaved”? I wouldn’t judge him just yet…

Well right now he is but Im sure not for long. He shows sighns of coming around into the Light–so to speak

 

[allischalmers]

I had a personal revelation this morning and I wanted to share it with you. While I was praying, it occured to me that saying that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ **means more than the saving prayer that many protestants say; WAY more! ** Faith in Jesus begins with living the Christian life as he laid out for us in the Scriptures. He said that if we love him to keep his commandments. Faith is to live and grow in the Christian life and as our faith grows, our belief in Jesus gets stronger and our love for him grows as well. Our JOY also gets bigger! What we do is all attributed to our faith so as to not brag about our works as Paul said. This is really what he meant. It actually runs right parallel to what James said “faith without works is dead”. This all means WAY much more than just merely believe in Jesus and what he did for us and then we are saved. Am I on the right track?? I would appreciate your thoughts!!

Most Protestant believe that we are save by more than just saying the sinners prayer,

 

[Eileen_T]

I had a personal revelation this morning and I wanted to share it with you. While I was praying, it occured to me that saying that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ means more than the saving prayer that many Protestants say; WAY more! Faith in Jesus begins with living the Christian life as he laid out for us in the Scriptures. He said that if we love him to keep his commandments. Faith is to live and grow in the Christian life and as our faith grows, **our belief in Jesus gets stronger and our love for him grows as well. Our JOY also gets bigger! ** What we do is all attributed to our faith so as to not brag about our works as Paul said. This is really what he meant. It actually runs right parallel to what James said “faith without works is dead”. This all means WAY much more than just merely believe in Jesus and what he did for us and then we are saved. Am I on the right track?? I would appreciate your thoughts!!

And the more we love Jesus, the more joy-filled we are and the easier it is to love those who are made in the image and likeness of God, even the unlovable ones.

We begin to really “live” the Beatitudes. Sort of like Blessed Mother Teresa, because we “see” Him everywhere and in everyone.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Well right now he is but Im sure not for long. He shows sighns of coming around into the Light–so to speak

Well, as a Catholic, I can’t make any judgement on him, depending on his genuine understanding of faith.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Im postive that ALL is not judging him, only stating things as she sees them.

 

[elvisman]

Im postive that ALL is not judging him, only stating things as she sees them.

Hmmm . . . seems to me that calling somebody, “unsaved” is akin to judging their hearts. We are not to judge anybodys heart.
That’s why the Catholic church believes in what Jesus emphatically taught:
**You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved. **
Matt. 10:22

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AND . . .

**But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. **
Mat. 24:13
None of us will be saved unless we persevere to the end.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

Im postive that ALL is not judging him, only stating things as she sees them.

Exactly, thank you.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

Hmmm . . . seems to me that calling somebody, “unsaved” is akin to judging their hearts. We are not to judge anybodys heart.
That’s why the Catholic church believes in what Jesus emphatically taught:
You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved.
Matt. 10:22

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AND . . .

But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
Mat. 24:13
None of us will be saved unless we persevere to the end.

The point is he doesnt even believe or accept the salvation message. So how could he possibly be saved

We are allowed to judge someone(not in a negative way)but to discern whether or not they need to be evangelized to. What kind of witness would I be to my husband if I sat back and did or said nothing because I was afraid to say he is not saved? If I did nothing to help him–not only would I have to answer to Christ for my lack of obediance in spreading the good news, but I may be an accomplice in possibly sending him to hell

I do not judge my husband like the world thinks of as judging. What I am doing is discerning whether or not he knows the truth about Christ. I am doing what the bible tells me to do and that is to witness to my husband by my actions and without words(well very little anyway )

I have lived with my husband for almost 18 years and trust me I know him and he has not accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior. Heck he doesnt even recognize that he is a sinner in need of a Savior.

I pray for his salvation and I have my church pray for his salvation. I do see little changes in him. AMEN!!!

 

[MarcoPolo]

The point is he doesnt even believe or accept the salvation message. So how could he possibly be saved

The reason is because Scripture (and to us Catholics, the Church too) teaches that ignorance can be a factor in one’s culpability. It also depends on the degree of grace bestowed on him to determine his culpability…i.e. to whom much is given much is expected…

But of course the safe play is to do what you said and evangelize to him. I’m just saying that I would not describe anyone as “unsaved” because I really can’t know!

 

[ALLFORHIM]

The reason is because Scripture (and to us Catholics, the Church too) teaches that ignorance can be a factor in one’s culpability. It also depends on the degree of grace bestowed on him to determine his culpability…i.e. to whom much is given much is expected…

I understand but there are people(those whom you live with )that you really can tell. That is if you follow the biblical version of salvation.

P.S. I wouldnt say this about most people just the people I know really really well.

 

[MarcoPolo]

I know you guys believe that but the bible does not teach ignorance.

Well, that’s a whole other thread…but we agree…keep on evangelizin’ and be a great example!

 

[mikeledes]

The point is he doesnt even believe or accept the salvation message. So how could he possibly be saved

I never did like the word “unsaved.” I prefer “unbeliever”, “non-Christian,” etc. These are words that do not make a judgement on a person’s standing before God.

God Bless,
Michael

 

[bengal_fan]

i usually say it this way:

God loves us. each and every one of us. He extends His grace to all of us but we must turn our hearts to Him (not our minds although they follow… our minds indicate mere belief, but our hearts indicate faith). when we turn our hearts to Him, we receive His grace. then, because of that saving grace received when turning our hearts to Him, we have to capability of turning our hearts to others (works). the grace does not come through only turning our hearts to others, we must turn our hearts to Him first (faith). through the faith (or “by faith” as Ephesians says) we receive the grace, and because of the grace works flow from us. God saves us by grace, through faith and that faith results in works.