"We must do everything possible"-'No more war'

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From this perspective of faith, I wish to renew an urgent appeal to intensify the commitment to prayer and penance, to invoke from Christ the gift of his peace. There is no peace without conversion of heart.

The next few days will be decisive for the outcome of the Iraqi crisis. Let us pray, then, that the Lord inspire in all sides of the dispute courage and farsightedness.

The political leaders of Baghdad certainly have the urgent duty to collaborate fully with the international community to eliminate every reason for armed intervention. To them I direct my urgent appeal: the fate of your fellow-citizens should always have priority.

But I would also like to remind the member countries of the United Nations , and especially those who make up the Security Council, that the use of force represents the last recourse, after having exhausted every other peaceful solution, in keeping with the well-known principles of the UN Charter.

That is why, in the face of the tremendous consequences that an international military operation would have for the population of Iraq and for the balance of the Middle East region, already sorely tried, and for the extremisms that could stem from it, I say to all: There is still time to negotiate; there is still room for peace, it is never too late to come to an understanding and to continue discussions.

To reflect on one’s duties, to engage in energetic negotiations does not mean to be humiliated, but to work with responsibility for peace.

Moreover, we Christians are convinced that real and lasting peace is not only the fruit of necessary political agreements and understandings between individuals and peoples, but is the gift of God to all those who submit themselves to him and accept with humility and gratitude the light of his love.

I belong to that generation that lived through World War II and, thanks be to God, survived it. I have the duty to say to all young people, to those who are younger than I, who have not had this experience: “No more war” as Paul VI said during his first visit to the United Nations. We must do everything possible. We know well that peace is not possible at any price. But we all know how great is this responsibility. Therefore prayer and penance.
  1. Let us go forward confidently, dear Brothers and Sisters, in our Lenten journey. May the Blessed Virgin Mary obtain for us that this Lent may not be remembered as a sad time of war, but as a period of courageous effort for conversion and peace . We entrust this intention to the special intercession of St Jospeh whose Solemnity we will celebrate next Wednesday.
 
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Lots of Rosaries and prayers are needed right now in prayer for the avoidance of escalation after the Iran rocket attack on the US bases there.
 
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President Trump’s decision to order the [assassination of Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani] was a gamble that CBS News national security correspondent David Martin says marks the beginning of a dangerous new era in U.S.-Iran relations.

Anyone who knows… knew that an attack upon the well-know Soleimani - who as a widely Loved Icon of Security to all Iranians - is an act of immense Provocation - akin to the 9/11 attacks - which would surely lead to a huge military response…

What is presented by some as a move toward PEACE - is - no surprise - Igniting WAR

It’s like Orwellian Double-Think: WAR IS PEACE!

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I hope there is not war either. But to compare the drone strike to take out a terrorist to 9-11 is one of the more ridiculous things I’ve heard. And it is quite insulting. On one hand you have an evil human being being brought to justice. On the other hand is thousands of innocent civilians being killed
 
I am all for praying for peace. Our enemies are the ones who choose war!
 
We really need to pray for peace in our world. I think of the prayer to St Frances of Assisi

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace
Where there is hatred, let me sow love
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith
Where there is despair, hope
Where there is darkness, light
And where there is sadness, joy

O Divine Master, grant that I may
Not so much seek to be consoled as to console
To be understood, as to understand
To be loved, as to love
For it is in giving that we receive
And it’s in pardoning that we are pardoned
And it’s in dying that we are born to Eternal Life
Amen
 
We do need to pray for peace, and no one in their right mind wants war.
One important way to keep peace is to be strong as a deterrent to war. But when a country supports terrorism, seeks to acquire nuclear weapons, wants to destroy Israel and threatens America and has a history of supporting groups with weapons and training that has led to hundreds of dead Americans, we at times have to flex our muscle. We need to remind them of the power we have in order to avoid war.
 
Yes, but need to be at a computer to explain some thoughts. Question…how long has the USA been in Iraqi, Iran, and Kuwait which includes any type of business, trade and military?
 
Yes, but need to be at a computer to explain some thoughts. Question…how long has the USA been in Iraqi, Iran, and Kuwait which includes any type of business, trade and military?
A long time.

What does that have to do with taking out one lone terrorist and comparing it to 9-11?
Are you saying that killing one person is the equivelent of thousands?
Even if you don’t account for the evil deeds that the iranian official was performing. Say he was 1 innocent person. Is that the same as killing thousands innocent people?

I don’t like how involved the US is in other countries. But using this comparison is assine.
 
I said a long time.
Do you want exact dates?
Can you explain why that is revelant?
Are you trying to say that the US’s involvement in Iraq/Iran is justification for 9/11?
 
How many innocent civilians where killed when we went into the middle east after 9/11?
 
How many innocent civilians where killed when we went into the middle east after 9/11?
I don’t know. Do you have a number?
I think we are done here though. I don’t mind discussing this but you keep moving the goal posts. You wont address how killing a lone terrorist is equivelent to thousands of innocent lives. In case you forgot, that is what was being compared. If you want to compare the innocent civilians killed by the US troops in the middle east to 9/11 fine, go ahead. But that isn’t what the discussion was about
 
There is no point to continue this conversation and I am being flagged
…by whom?
 
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You know, people trust the clergy.
In many countries clergy institution is great authority, and if clergy gives blessing for war, then people are ready to die for the ideas.
The clergy, the Jesuits are the spiritual soldiers of the Empire, they inspire to fight.
They are serious people.
No empty talking, they take very risky, manly steps and bless for war, and they change the history, or at least make a manly steps to change the history
 
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I think it is cowardly too. No one wants war as you said. But having listened to Trump after 9/11 and hearing his words now, as well as his actions in the middle east. He is a hypocrite and has totally changed his views regarding the middle east.
 
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Me too. No one wants war as you said. But having listened to Trump after 9/11 and hearing his words now, as well as his actions in the middle east. He is a hypocrite and has totally changed his views regarding the middle east.
I am of the opinion that so much goes on behind the scenes that we will never know about. Once candidates get into office, their eyes are opened and realize how naive and ignorant they (and the public) are
 
Yes, it must be a very different world once a person is elected and working behind the scenes as you said. Tragically having been in NY when 9/11 happened and now seeing our youth again ( who might have been 2 years old when 9/11 happened) go to the middle east…breaks my heart.
 
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