We need to get the message out there - Abortion is not the answer

[mikekle]

Wow.

Do you view the handful of people who tried to bomb Hitler as heroes or villains?

How about the patriots that used violence to win the US freedom from Britain, should they have chosen not to use violence?

What about the Crusades, were they heroes or villains?

Same thing with todays war on terror…would you consider those people who actively try to find and kill ISIS members to be heroes or villains?

All Im saying is there is a double standard on whether violence is right or wrong, if its deemed to be for the greater good, then it is clearly acceptable and OK, but when its not ‘popular’, its deemed to be wrong…?? I dont get it?

 

[estesbob]

Do you view the handful of people who tried to bomb Hitler as heroes or villains?

How about the patriots that used violence to win the US freedom from Britain, should they have chosen not to use violence?

What about the Crusades, were they heroes or villains?

Same thing with todays war on terror…would you consider those people who actively try to find and kill ISIS members to be heroes or villains?

All Im saying is there is a double standard on whether violence is right or wrong, if its deemed to be for the greater good, then it is clearly acceptable and OK, but when its not ‘popular’, its deemed to be wrong…?? I dont get it?

Killing an abortion Dr will not stop abortion in this country. It would, however, make it much harder to legislate against abortion in this country.

 

[mikekle]

Killing an abortion Dr will not stop abortion in this country. It would, however, make it much harder to legislate against abortion in this country.

I do not condone killing anyone, but how is this any different than our current ‘tactic’ of trying to stop terrorism, especially by ISIS, by bombing and killing them? If you look at many of the comments on terrorism articles, majority of people, are calling for them to be killed, some in very violent ways.

The goal is to stop or reduce terrorism, but they are using violence as the tool (bombing, killing, airstrikes, etc), and many people seem to be totally fine with this…??

Look at all the celebrating when Bin Laden was killed, people wanted to see the video of him being shot in the head?!! So, really it seems, violence is ok, as long as its a ‘popular’ sentiment at the time.

 

[Little_Sheep]

Do you view the handful of people who tried to bomb Hitler as heroes or villains?

How about the patriots that used violence to win the US freedom from Britain, should they have chosen not to use violence?

What about the Crusades, were they heroes or villains?

Same thing with todays war on terror…would you consider those people who actively try to find and kill ISIS members to be heroes or villains?

All Im saying is there is a double standard on whether violence is right or wrong, if its deemed to be for the greater good, then it is clearly acceptable and OK, but when its not ‘popular’, its deemed to be wrong…?? I dont get it?

While it makes sense to me that someone who thinks the way you think would wish to put people who commit violence you personally agree with in the same category as people you perceive to be “freedom fighters,” I dare not answer you for fear that I might somehow encourage this delusion.

And it doesn’t feel healthy for me to do that.

 

[_Abyssinia]

I doubt that attitudes are going to change in only a generation, especially since people are becoming less religious, not more so. According to a Pew Survey from 3 years ago:

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/19/majority-of-u-s-catholics-opinions-run-counter-to-church-on-contraception-homosexuality/

Other demographics are probably even less likely to be against abortion.

Just to note: What these type of polls often show is that there is less support for abortion, same-sex marriage etc. when regular Church going Catholics are separated from Catholics in general with no distinction as to their practice in regards to Church going. For example a article on a Pew poll says there was, “a 20-percentage point difference between the two figures” between Catholics who went to Church at least once a week and Catholics grouped together, on a question about homosexual behaviour being sinful.

An article on a Marist/Knights of Columbus poll found, “Around 81 percent of practicing Catholics said abortion is morally wrong, compared to 60 percent of Americans and 51 percent of non-practicing Catholics. Asked about substantial restrictions on abortion, 91 percent of practicing Catholics supported restrictions while 84 percent of Americans as a whole did.”

 

[mikekle]

While it makes sense to me that someone who thinks the way you think would wish to put people who commit violence you personally agree with in the same category as people you perceive to be “freedom fighters,” I dare not answer you for fear that I might somehow encourage this delusion.

And it doesn’t feel healthy for me to do that.

I never said I thought they were freedom fighter, or that I condone any type of violence( I do not actually, as I have stated).

If we are to ‘condemn’ using violence, even if its for the greater good, that must apply to everything, not just one thing.

If one does not support using violence to stop abortion, than they also must not support using violence to stop any other worldly problems (such as terrorism, genocide, etc).

 

[estesbob]

I never said I thought they were freedom fighter, or that I condone any type of violence( I do not actually, as I have stated).

If we are to ‘condemn’ using violence, even if its for the greater good, that must apply to everything, not just one thing.

If one does not support using violence to stop abortion, than they also must not support using violence to stop any other worldly problems (such as terrorism, genocide, etc).

And the Church teaches this where?