Wearing a hat to Easter Mass

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During Easter Mass, I noticed not a few women who were wearing theri “easter hats”. and many of them kept them on for the duration of the Mass. Also noticed a teenage kid who had a baseball cap worn backwards. So what do you think the usher did?! Of course, the kid was told to remove the cap. No rebuke was issued to the ladies. Is this fair?

I feel that it is disrespectful to enter a catholic church with any type of hat worn. Why do easter hats get a free pass? (never noticed many of these women during regular sunday masses throughout the year btw; then again, is it better to show up twice a year for Mass than never!!!–another forum discussion)
 
It is highly appropriate (but no longer required) for women to cover their heads at Mass, either with a veil or hat. It is inappropriate for gentlemen to wear hats in church.
 
Women having their heads covered used to be a requirement, even though it is no longer required it is still perfectly acceptable.
Men should always remove their hats.
 
…Of course, the kid was told to remove the cap. No rebuke was issued to the ladies. Is this fair? …
Yes, it is and it is proper, mannerly and customary as well. Our culture has gotten away from using proper manners and most women have gotten away from wearing hats, while a lot of men still wear caps, but sadly do not know proper behavior while doing so. In any event, what you witnessed is proper and respectful for both parties in Church (the ladies kept their hats on and their heads covered and the gentleman was required to remove his hat). When I was growing up, as a female, I was required to have my head covered in Church by the nuns at school (though my parents did not require it on Sundays or Holy Days of Obligation because the requirement was changing). Now it is optional (though there is a debate raging about that), and certainly NOT disrespectful for a woman to cover her head in Church. The opposite is true for a man.

To illustrate my point, I did an internet search on hat etiquette and found a helpful site. I was looking for Emily Post or Miss Manners, but the site I found works to convey the information and some of the comments are amusing. Rules for wearing hats follow. (Granted, these are old-fashioned rules, but wearing hats is generally old-fashioned too, so it follows that the rules are as well.)

"…The Rules…

There are two degrees of politeness demonstrated by a gentleman wearing a hat:

1.Lifting or tipping it, which you generally do for strangers.

2.Taking it off, which you generally do for friends (or in some cases, as a sign of patriotism or reverence).

Both are done as a sign of respect toward the other and dignity toward oneself.

Tipping your hat is a conventional gesture, done by barely lifting it off your head with your right hand (or the left hand if the right hand is occupied): By the crown of a soft hat, or the brim of a stiff one. Your cigarette, pipe or cigar should always be taken out of your mouth before removing or tipping your hat. This is a subtle gesture that should not be confused with bowing.

A man takes off his hat outdoors (and indoors):
(1) when he is being introduced to someone, or when saying goodbye to a woman, elder, friend or ;
(2) as a greeting when passing someone he knows, particularly a lady, on the street (In some cases, tipping or lifting a hat and bowing slightly may be used as a substitute for removing a hat, as a passing gesture);
(3) while talking, particularly with a woman, an older man, or a clergyman;
(4) while the National Anthem is being played, or the American Flag is passing;
(5) at a funeral or in the presence of a passing funeral procession,
(6) when speaking to another of a virtuous woman or a dearly departed loved one.

A man tips or lifts his hat:
(1) when walking with a friend who passes a woman only the friend knows;
(2) any time a lady who is a stranger thanks you for some service or assistance;
(3) any time you excuse yourself to a woman stranger, such as if you accidentally disturb or jostle her in a crowd, or when you ask for pardon when passing in a tight space or when forced to walk between two people that are conversing, particularly if one is a woman;
(4) any time a stranger shows courtesy to a woman you are accompanying, such as when a man or woman picks up something she has dropped, or a man opens a door for her or gives her his seat;
(5) when you ask a woman (or an elderly man) for directions.

**Indoors, a man should always remove his hat, (particularly in a home, church, courtroom or restaurant) except:

(1) in some public buildings or public places such as railroad stations or post offices;
(2) in the main parlor area of a saloon or general store;
(3) or while seated at the “lunch counter” of a diner or cafe;
(4) in entrance halls and corridors of office buildings, or hotels;
(5) in elevators of public or office buildings, unless a woman is present;
(6) if carrying packages, parcels or bags and both hands are occupied upon entry.
(7) If the man is an actor or performer and the hat is being worn as a part of a costume or performance.

If in doubt, it is best for a gentleman to remove his hat indoors as soon as practical.
It is considered a sign of contempt and/or disrespect to leave your hat on when it would be proper to remove it. It is surprising how many people do not remove their hats for the National Anthem or a passing funeral procession… a shame really.

The Rules for women…

By and large, women are generally exempt from all of the preceeding rules, particularly if their hat is fastened (pinned or clipped) to their hair and difficult to remove easily. Therefore, women are and were allowed to wear a hat in a church, a courtroom or at a funeral… prettty much anywhere a man would not wear a hat, even today.**"…

Source: bcvc.net/hats/
 
No rebuke was issued to the ladies. Is this fair?

I feel that it is disrespectful to enter a catholic church with any type of hat worn.
Yes, it’s fair. Perfectly fine for a lady to keep her head covered in church! I am surprised that anyone would even question this - I guess it is a sign of how much etiquette we have forgotten in our modern age. In our Basilica there is a sign specifically requesting MEN to remove their hats. Nothing about the ladies as is right and proper.

I take it you have never spent time in the South where the African-American women wear big, beautiful hats in church. 😉
 
A woman’s hat has always been considered as much a part of her “outfit” as her shoes, and is totally proper – in both society and in church – to stay on indoors.

A man’s hat, however, is to be removed indoors.

Now . . . if the young person wearing a baseball cap was a girl, you may get some debate on the matter! 😉 (But, if I were her mother, I would tell her if she was going to use a “traditional” argument, she had to accept that a baseball cap was “traditionally” a man or boy’s accessory and therefore – TAKE IT OFF!)
 
Now . . . if the young person wearing a baseball cap was a girl, you may get some debate on the matter! 😉 (But, if I were her mother, I would tell her if she was going to use a “traditional” argument, she had to accept that a baseball cap was “traditionally” a man or boy’s accessory and therefore – TAKE IT OFF!)
Supposedly the rules about baseball caps on women depends on whether the cap is worn as part of a sports team uniform or as part of a fashionable statement. If it is worn as part of a sport uniform the same rules apply as would apply to a man. If it is just part of her outfit then the usual women’s rules apply. (Not that I think any of this makes things much clearer. :confused: )
 
The usher and the other posters are correct.

St. Paul in his First Letter to the Corinthians, 11:1-10
drbo.org/chapter/53011.htm
1 Be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ. 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me: and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you. 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. 5 But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. 7 The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man. 9 For the man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man. 10 Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.
 
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