Wearing baseball caps at Mass.

[Adonia]

I get very bored whilst at Mass as no one is giving me the attention I deserve. So I tend to spend my time looking at what people wear, who they talk to and any particular mannerisms etc. It passes the time. When Mass is over, I like to go with the people to where the tea and cake is so I can watch them a while before I join the herd to the car park where I ruthlessly attempt to be the first out. I like cake. People are so disrespectful at Mass in what they wear. I am personally outraged but I offer it up for the reparation of the sins of so many around me.

So, what kind of attention is it that you deserve? What kind of nonsense is this that you deserve anything? God is the one who deserves your rapt attention during all parts of the Mass. Your line of thinking is shameful.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

So, what kind of attention is it that you deserve? What kind of nonsense is this that you deserve anything? God is the one who deserves your rapt attention during all parts of the Mass. Your line of thinking is shameful.

You realize the poster was not being serious right?

 

[Georgia]

Etiquette was drilled into us as children, even at public schools. We used “sir” and “ma’am.” Napkins went onto the laps during meals, the fold toward the user. Meat was cut one bite at a time. Men did not offer a hand for a handshake first; that was the lady’s option. You get the picture.

If boys wearing caps went across the threshold into our school, teachers would assist in removing the caps. The assistance would send the cap flying far enough that the former wearer would not make that mistake again.

When I see men wearing hats or caps indoors, I can’t help it registering as improper, maybe along the lines of it being something that just isn’t good manners. I well remember the very first time I saw men eating in a restaurant while wearing caps. It made such a bad impression that I can describe it about thirty years later. Yes, my cap comes off no matter the building I enter.

You can pretty much see what I would think about men wearing hats at mass. I very much don’t care for it. If a man has to remove his hat to go into a courtroom, and that’s the rule where I live, I think the respect due the mass is so much more.

I saw our former pastor stop his procession into the church one time to tell a man to remove his baseball cap. I have seen ushers do the same thing. I have also seen men wearing baseball caps throughout mass, even when receiving.

I doubt the men involved meant disrespect. Manners are not taught now and baseball caps seem to be everywhere. The rare time I see a man in mass with one on, I assume either he doesn’t know any better or that he forgot, the latter being the more likely.

 

[PraiseChrist]

Brother, go to an FSSP chapel if this is a real problem. I agree though, men should have nothing covering their hair, while the opposite is for women. At least, this is a traditional thing that is good.

All the best and
Bless you

 

[zab]

Brother, go to an FSSP chapel if this is a real problem. I agree though, men should have nothing covering their hair, while the opposite is for women. At least, this is a traditional thing that is good.

All the best and
Bless you

Why?

 

[Padres1969]

Gaah! So you admit that people don’t consider it rude to wear a cap indoors - - except at select occasions like church - - and that you don’t understand why people would have a problem with your wearing a cap at church?!!

Also, I am under 50, and it looks odd to me if I see a man wearing a hat indoors (especially at church). I’m sure there are others like me. I have to wonder now, you’re probably wearing jeans and a t-shirt with your ball cap at church? Or what?

Not at all. I think you’re confused about what I said. I was talking indoors in general. I’ve mentioned exceptions for formal occasions like church in my posts.

But yes I do wear jeans to church sometimes. Nice ones mind you, but jeans none the less since they seem qualify as “business casual” where I live. That said, jeans or Dockers and a polo shirt/button down shirt are the standard wear at my parish. Though some come in more formally dressed (I’ve seen suits on occasion), and some far less formally dressed (particularly the neighborhood homeless who are just happy to be there) in things like shorts, bike shirts, t-shirts, etc…

That said, it’s not like it’s just the laity who have embraced the more casual approach to mass, both Catholic and otherwise. I was struck a few years back by a mixed Catholic/Protestant (Methodist I think) wedding I attended. The Protestant minister was wearing a very nice suit, spit polished shoes and a nice stole. The Catholic priest rolls in wearing jeans, t-shirt, and tevas. The tevas in particular stood out because they were visible during the entire wedding sticking out from his vestments in stark contrast to the minister who was also on the altar assisting.

 

[27lw]

Not at all. I think you’re confused about what I said. I was talking indoors in general. I’ve mentioned exceptions for formal occasions like church in my posts.

But yes I do wear jeans to church sometimes. Nice ones mind you, but jeans none the less since they seem qualify as “business casual” where I live. That said, jeans or Dockers and a polo shirt/button down shirt are the standard wear at my parish. Though some come in more formally dressed (I’ve seen suits on occasion), and some far less formally dressed (particularly the neighborhood homeless who are just happy to be there) in things like shorts, bike shirts, t-shirts, etc…

That said, it’s not like it’s just the laity who have embraced the more casual approach to mass, both Catholic and otherwise. I was struck a few years back by a mixed Catholic/Protestant (Methodist I think) wedding I attended. The Protestant minister was wearing a very nice suit, spit polished shoes and a nice stole. The Catholic priest rolls in wearing jeans, t-shirt, and tevas. The tevas in particular stood out because they were visible during the entire wedding sticking out from his vestments in stark contrast to the minister who was also on the altar assisting.

Yes, I think I am confused about what you said. Sorry.

 

[zab]

Not at all. I think you’re confused about what I said. I was talking indoors in general. I’ve mentioned exceptions for formal occasions like church in my posts.

But yes I do wear jeans to church sometimes. Nice ones mind you, but jeans none the less since they seem qualify as “business casual” where I live. That said, jeans or Dockers and a polo shirt/button down shirt are the standard wear at my parish. Though some come in more formally dressed (I’ve seen suits on occasion), and some far less formally dressed (particularly the neighborhood homeless who are just happy to be there) in things like shorts, bike shirts, t-shirts, etc…

That said, it’s not like it’s just the laity who have embraced the more casual approach to mass, both Catholic and otherwise. I was struck a few years back by a mixed Catholic/Protestant (Methodist I think) wedding I attended. The Protestant minister was wearing a very nice suit, spit polished shoes and a nice stole. The Catholic priest rolls in wearing jeans, t-shirt, and tevas. The tevas in particular stood out because they were visible during the entire wedding sticking out from his vestments in stark contrast to the minister who was also on the altar assisting.

:nope:

 

[dreamer29]

Look, people are going to church dressed the way they want. If there are no rules or it’s not enforced, then who is to blame? I do believe that some parishioners are pushing the envelope. I see younger and older people who I think are in a contest as to who can push the envelope the furthest. Not all churches are this way I guess.

You can’t blame the people attending if their allowed to get away with it. I only wished they had more respect for the Lord’s House.

 

[zab]

Look, people are going to church dressed the way they want. If there are no rules or it’s not enforced, then who is to blame? I do believe that some parishioners are pushing the envelope. I see younger and older people who I think are in a contest as to who can push the envelope the furthest. Not all churches are this way I guess.

You can’t blame the people attending if their allowed to get away with it. I only wished they had more respect for the Lord’s House.

And that’s the bottom line.

 

[sirach2v4]

That’s probably why he was wearing a baseball hat - possible med condition resulting in hair loss. It’s really not a big deal.

The parish church is the essential place where all should be accepted, no matter what handicap or deformity or malady. If people stare, it should only be in prayer.

 

[sirach2v4]

At sinai, before God came down on the mountain, the people prepared for the event by washing their clothes, etc. Through Moses, God directed this. Modern Hasidic Jews wear black suits and hats to avoid any distractions, and women sit separately. At the Haj in Mecca, people of all classes wear a white robe (of sorts) to eliminate any profane signs of their social class.

In Revelation, there was a throng of people in white, who had washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb. Elsewhere the NT discourages women from ostentatious dress.

I think it’s inappropriate to wear Hard Rock Cafe apparel or Cancun bar t-shirts or KISS whatever. Anything that distracts from Christ is profane and objectionable.

I can afford to “dress up” for church but I prefer to dress so that people look away from me or don’t notice me especially.

The priest dresses in garments to reflect the role of Christ as priest, prophet, and king. they have the unique opportunity to destroy the effect and symbolism when they start clowning in church and/or telling “jokes.”

 

[Graceful_Lamb]

The parish church is the essential place where all should be accepted, no matter what handicap or deformity or malady. If people stare, it should only be in prayer.

Amen!

Besides, we go to Mass to worship the Lord, not to take inventory of who is wearing what to Mass.

 

[zab]

Amen!

Besides, we go to Mass to worship the Lord, not to take inventory of who is wearing what to Mass.

It seems that young people are not being taught etiquette today and wearing hats indoors falls into that topic. The OP asks a good question:*** “Other than that situation (medical condition), has wearing baseball caps at Mass gone to far?” ***This has nothing to do with taking inventory of who is wearing what to Mass. It is something that can’t help from being noticed and the question is an appropriate one for this time, especially for parents who are trying to teach their children what is proper and what is not.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

It seems that young people are not being taught etiquette today and wearing hats indoors falls into that topic. The OP asks a good question:*** “Other than that situation (medical condition), has wearing baseball caps at Mass gone to far?” ***This has nothing to do with taking inventory of who is wearing what to Mass. It is something that can’t help from being noticed and the question is an appropriate one for this time, especially for parents who are trying to teach their children what is proper and what is not.

I’m not usually on the side of the relaxed here. I’m appalled at what I see as dress for mass or in general. Honestly I’ve seen more revealing underwear than my wife wears at bedtime…

But it occurred to me, that perhaps it isn’t that " young people are not taught hat etiquette" but rather old people just haven’t gotten the memo that hats indoors are not really an etiquette thing anymore. Kinda like how some think a cell phone is for phone calls. I use mine in mass for a missal…

 

[zab]

I’m not usually on the side of the relaxed here. I’m appalled at what I see as dress for mass or in general. Honestly I’ve seen more revealing underwear than my wife wears at bedtime…

But it occurred to me, that perhaps it isn’t that " young people are not taught hat etiquette" but rather **old people just haven’t gotten the memo that hats indoors are not really an etiquette thing anymore. ** Kinda like how some think a cell phone is for phone calls. I use mine in mass for a missal…

Oh yeah? If you are going to a Music Awards event like Country Music or Hip Hop you may fit right in. But trying telling that to the judge or to a commanding officer in the military. I believe that there are still places where wearing a hat indoors is inappropriate.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Oh yeah? If you are going to a Music Awards event like Country Music or Hip Hop you may fit right in. But trying telling that to the judge or to a commanding officer in the military. I believe that there are still places where wearing a hat indoors is inappropriate.

Hat etiquette is the least of my worries for dress at mass. Period. That’s like rearranging chairs in the titanic. Not once, ever, in the history of mankind has a ball cap encouraged a lustful thought. But that butterfly tattoo landing on the “t” of a thong peeking out of the top of some jeans that are way too low? Now that can be a problem. It just seems odd to fight this battle when the war is over there… But more power to you. Should hats be worn by men in church? Nope. But if that is even on your radar then you go to a classier parish than I do.

I couldn’t care less what the military or a judge requires in the way of something to cover your head.
When God issues a command that men should not wear hats in church we can talk, until then, I’ll try to focus on the Eucharist being raised in front of me, that is if I can see it through the 15 bra straps and spaghetti strap dresses in front of me on teens and moms alike.

Actually, if you sit in the front, it’s less of an issue. Then you only have the communion line to worry about…

 

[Graceful_Lamb]

Actually, if you sit in the front, it’s less of an issue. Then you only have the communion line to worry about…

I try to sit closer to the front of the church. As for the communion line, I usually have my eyes closed and am praying at that time.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

What is the difference between etiquette and just plain old " old fashionedness".

Anyone who has an issue with hats on men better veil come from a veiling family.

 

[zab]

Hat etiquette is the least of my worries for dress at mass. Period. That’s like rearranging chairs in the titanic. Not once, ever, in the history of mankind has a ball cap encouraged a lustful thought. But that butterfly tattoo landing on the “t” of a thong peeking out of the top of some jeans that are way too low? Now that can be a problem. It just seems odd to fight this battle when the war is over there… But more power to you. Should hats be worn by men in church? Nope. But if that is even on your radar then you go to a classier parish than I do.

I couldn’t care less what the military or a judge requires in the way of something to cover your head.
When God issues a command that men should not wear hats in church we can talk, until then, I’ll try to focus on the Eucharist being raised in front of me, that is if I can see it through the 15 bra straps and spaghetti strap dresses in front of me on teens and moms alike.

Actually, if you sit in the front, it’s less of an issue. Then you only have the communion line to worry about…

We are not fighting any battles here. Someone asked a question about ball caps and I believe it is ok to discuss this issue. If you want to talk about tattoos, cleavage and thongs, start your own thread.