West seems tired of faith

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People don’t know anything much about their faith to be tired of it.

All they know is that the Church isn’t letting them do whatever tehy want and it’s all about the individual.

Secular indoctrination and a lax Church, parents and schools who failed to educate and discipline their children has led to this.
 
Luke 12:49 I am come to cast fire on the earth; and what will I, but that it be kindled?

Hebrews 12:18 For you are not come to a mountain that might be touched, and a burning fire, and a whirlwind, and darkness, and storm

[22] But you are come to mount Sion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to the company of many thousands of angels, [23] And to the church of the firstborn, who are written in the heavens, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the just made perfect, [24] And to Jesus the mediator of the new testament, and to the sprinkling of blood which speaketh better than that of Abel. [25] See that you refuse him not that speaketh.

Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and kindle in them the fire of your love. Send forth your Spirit and they shall be created. And You shall renew the face of the earth.

deep peace
 
…I worry from population discussions at college about the limits of the earth and the church’s position to over populate the fragile resources of mother earth.
Wow.

You have a lot to learn.

Don’t buy the secular lie.

Doubt me? Ask a Priest. Please!
If you want-ask Fr. Vincent Serpa-up in Ask An Apologist (here at CAF) about this.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
I was referring to nitrogen in the soil is depleating, animals population can’t feed everyone and fish schools are less and less if not becoming extient. There’s only so much wood in places one can cut, only so much smog an atmostphere can take. When will the church recognize this over population problem? When I asked my bible teacher who is so old and wise in the faith he said “some how God will provide, God will provide”. People are starving.
Wow.

Please. Talk with a Priest!

Ask about the over population problem. You really, really need spiritual guidance.

Please. For your own good.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
I worry from population discussions at college about the limits of the earth and the church’s position to over populate the fragile resources of mother earth.
I hear you. We are called by God to be stewards of the world and I think we have been a disaster in this most Materialistic Greedy (and un-Christian) age! The solution to the worlds population is not condoms or enforced birth control. The real Answer is Love, that is to reflect the love of God onto your brothers and sisters and onto the rest of creation. If people practicised real love, Charity, Chastity, we wouldnt even be having this problem.
 
Religion in Europe does seem to be dying. In Spain, where I live, Church attendence has halved to 15% since 2001. In the country of my birth, Ireland, it is a little better, but thanks to the scandals, the numbers there are in free fall too. In Germany record numbers were leaving the church last year. Even if I were an atheist, I would decry this as a terrible thing, at least on purely cutural and sociological grounds. Imagine those great cathedrals, those great processions and festivals being no more! 2000 years of history are being wiped out in the space of a couple of generations. But it is really happening!

Nationalism, Communism, Hitler, Consumerism The Fools seem to fall pray to every devil of every age. I have a sneaky suspiscioun that we’ll be paying heavily for our folly.

You should pray for the people of Europe who have lost the faith almost entirely.
 
Our world is being Chastised.

The most prevalent and widespread sin-is abortion.

3,700 babies each day-in the United States…
115,000 babies each day-around the world…

Each DAY!!!

And, this guy thinks our problem-is for those who are alive (whose mothers didn’t abort them)-we are running out of resources, and making too much of a mess???!!!

GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES-DO IT NOW.

IF YOU DON’T YOU WILL BE DRIVEN TO THEM.

WE WILL ALL PAY A PRICE.

It’s happening. Look around you.

GET TO CHURCH!!!

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
I, for one, am tired. But it’s not of Faith.

No, my Faith has been increased.

-I’m tired of sin.
-I’m tired of the increase of sin-and people wanting sin to become the “norm” for everyone else.
-I’m tired of those who call themselves “Catholic” who do not know their Faith, and will not be obedient to Bishops or the Pope-himself, when informed and shown what their Faith teaches. They bring shame upon themselves and the Body of Christ-in the eyes of the rest of the world.
-I’m tired of Atheists who want to lead others down their loveless path of misery (as God IS Love) with themselves.
-I’m tired of rocks, plants, animals and minerals being considered *worth more *than human life-which is in the Image and Likeness of God.

We’re not made for this world. We are here for a time-to grow in Our Love-toward God. Our Eternal Life-is elsewhere-in His Kingdom, which is not of this world. Even if it’s 100 years, it’s a drop in the bucket to Eternity.

Choose wisely-where you will spend it.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
Religion in Europe does seem to be dying. In Spain, where I live, Church attendence has halved to 15% since 2001. In the country of my birth, Ireland, it is a little better, but thanks to the scandals, the numbers there are in free fall too. In Germany record numbers were leaving the church last year. Even if I were an atheist, I would decry this as a terrible thing, at least on purely cutural and sociological grounds. Imagine those great cathedrals, those great processions and festivals being no more! 2000 years of history are being wiped out in the space of a couple of generations. But it is really happening!

Nationalism, Communism, Hitler, Consumerism The Fools seem to fall pray to every devil of every age. I have a sneaky suspiscioun that we’ll be paying heavily for our folly.

You should pray for the people of Europe who have lost the faith almost entirely.
I hear you loud and clear. All that wonderful history, beautiful art and archetecture, that should inspire spirituality and love of Christ. I don’t really understand what happened to the European people, it’s almost like they are too proud for Christianity, think they are too smart and sophisticated for it.

Of course, we have that in the United States too, but I still say there are more Americans immersed in faith - Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, and all the rest of the non-denominational Christians who truly believe that Christ is their salvation.

I do pray for people in Europe, because they were the ones who actually kept the flame of Christ alive for so many centuries, but now, for some reason, turn their back on Christ.
 
People don’t know anything much about their faith to be tired of it.

All they know is that the Church isn’t letting them do whatever tehy want and it’s all about the individual.

Secular indoctrination and a lax Church, parents and schools who failed to educate and discipline their children has led to this.
Bingo, bingo, and bingo. 👍
 
I was referring to nitrogen in the soil is depleating, animals population can’t feed everyone and fish schools are less and less if not becoming extient. There’s only so much wood in places one can cut, only so much smog an atmostphere can take. When will the church recognize this over population problem? When I asked my bible teacher who is so old and wise in the faith he said “some how God will provide, God will provide”. People are starving.
Journey, my friend: I will repeat my advice, because you seem like someone who can use it. Clearly, you recognize injustice, which is excellent in this age of lying unfairness. You need to take the indignation you feel in your heart and direct it at the people who are responsible.

Why is the nitrigen depleting? Because of awful farming practices. Honestly, do you think three or four people can really farm 2000 acres well? How long would it take them to pull the weeds in just 100 of those acres? If they began in April, they would not be half done by December. Nothing would be planted.

So, what do these sons of the soil do, starved for labor? They dump pesticide, herbicide, tear out hedge, and create an environment that is totally dependent on the industrial chemicals they apply to boost the yield. Result? Same as with any hothouse flowers: they get addicted to the hothouse, and the natural balance of soil is ruined. This is happening all over the world. Why? Because the farms are starved for men and women laborers. Why? Where do think all the cheap labor of America, China, Africa comes from? The countryside.

Now ask yourself, cui bono?

This industrial runnoff hits our streams, rivers and bays. It kills the fish. I won’t even get into industrial fishing techniques. How many generations had fished the Lake of Gallilee when Christ found St. Peter mending his nets? Why didn’t they run out of fish? It is an inland water, for pity’s sake. Why are we running out of cod in the North Atlantic? What has changed? It isn’t the numner of fishermen, it is the manner of fishing that has changed.

The wood problem is due to people over cutting. That is not a question of too many people, it is a problem of a few people taking more than their share of the world’s wealth.

Let me tell you something. If you think you can solve the problem of injustice by reducing the number of people to the point where there just aren’t enough people to make injustice matter, you’ll never get there through birth control. You’ll need to thin the flock, as shepherds say.
 
I agree to what you are saying, I was referring to Easter Island mentality. The world population will deplete it’s resources no matter how careful you are.

“As the island became increasingly overpopulated and resources diminished, warriors known as matatoa gained more power and the Ancestor Cult ended”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island

We as christians have a duty to protect mother earth, even from overpopulation.
 
I agree to what you are saying, I was referring to Easter Island mentality. The world population will deplete it’s resources no matter how careful you are.

“As the island became increasingly overpopulated and resources diminished, warriors known as matatoa gained more power and the Ancestor Cult ended”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island

We as christians have a duty to protect mother earth, even from overpopulation.
How does this relate to the West being tired of Faith?
 
Go back to post #7 “I worry from population discussions at college about the limits of the earth and the church’s position to over populate the fragile resources of mother earth.”

The church’s position makes or breaks parishioners becoming disillusioned with their faith.
 
Go back to post #7 “I worry from population discussions at college about the limits of the earth and the church’s position to over populate the fragile resources of mother earth.”

The church’s position makes or breaks parishioners becoming disillusioned with their faith.
People need to learn to practice chasity. There is too much sexual addiction in the world today. It has nothing to do with the Church’s stand on abortion, if that is what you are leading to.
 
Very well said Christine77!

You know,the maverick atheist Richard Dawkins once wrote that contraception was against “Natural Selection” and that it was good that we fight against our primal instincts for the sake of the planet!
In a strange kind of a way he is not far from the Truth although he is still stubbornly blind to the whole Truth!
We are not animals - we can reason.
Chastity has to be the ultimate goal!
Contraception will actually achieve nothing because it will not cause a CHANGE in the hearts of humans. Its like capitalism and greed.
Why cant you understand this!!!
 
I was talking about Catholic marriages not the unmarried. the church teaches, 2366 "So the Church, which is “on the side of life,” teaches that “it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life.” The bible teaches to give of oneself to your partner.

The earth can only hold so many people what happens when it fills up?
 
I was talking about Catholic marriages not the unmarried. the church teaches, 2366 "So the Church, which is “on the side of life,” teaches that “it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life.” The bible teaches to give of oneself to your partner.

The earth can only hold so many people what happens when it fills up?
Even in a marriage, people can practice chastity.
 
I guess the church should start preaching chastity in marriage here’s why,

*“Every billion more people makes life more difficult for everybody — it’s as simple as that,” said John Bongaarts, a demographer at the Population Council, a research group in New York. “Is it the end of the world? No. Can we feed 10 billion people? Probably. But we obviously would be better off with a smaller population.” *

U.N. Forecasts 10.1 Billion People by Century’s End

nytimes.com/2011/05/04/world/04population.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
 
I am tired of the ignorance and materialism of those who have forgotten the truth.
What I see in the vast majority of people in my country is a pre-occupation with worldly things, with good food, with sexual activities, appearances, wealth, idle and irrelevant concerns such as sport, gossip or reality TV which absorb their entire being. They drag themselves downwards into a banality a degraded and voluntary intellectual stupidity which i find repulsive. Too many people live in a pit of degradation of spirit and soul feeding on the empty promises of the world having become animals, having forgotten their own Humanity.

This materialistic pre-occupation, this descent in a banal degradation and animalism is the current state of affairs amongst much of the west. Our society on the whole fails to see its true condition, it fails to see that it lies prone and impotent in a pit of its own filth, that it like a dull animal lives solely for the fodder given by the farmers hand ignorant that it is destined for hte slaughter. Ignorance is ascendant for the people of the west, the majority in their pride, their greed and their decadence have forsaken the calling of their humanity, the search for The Truth.

They fail to grasp, or acknowledge the truth that resides in their midst, having become enslaved to the world. Thue we see that in rejecting the Truth which in its entirety exists only within the Catholic Church, the people of the west are now reaping the rewards of their labours. Their own annihilation.

What makes this even more tragic is that their own destruction is voluntarily commited at their hand.
 
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