What’s at Stake for PBS Viewers? Budget Cuts Could Harm More Than Big Bird and Elmo

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JonNC said:
All good reasons to oppose forcing young people from participating without control over their own money. However, the idea that those who paid in are not entitled to their promised return is the logic of a progressive
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I have news for you. There were no promised returns. The courts have consistently ruled that social security is a welfare program and that the government can change or eliminate those benefits without legal consequence. Now, I will concede that many americans have not done their homework and think of Social Security as an annuity that is owed to them. Of course, their ignorance does not create a contract in which they are owed anything.

On the other hand, I would rather be a progressive that gets rid of a trillion dollar program than a so called conservative who argues incessantly in favor of the welfare state.
 
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I have news for you. There were no promised returns. The courts have consistently ruled that social security is a welfare program and that the government can change or eliminate those benefits without legal consequence. Now, I will concede that many americans have not done their homework and think of Social Security as an annuity that is owed to them. Of course, their ignorance does not create a contract in which they are owed anything.

On the other hand, I would rather be a progressive that gets rid of a trillion dollar program than a so called conservative who argues incessantly in favor of the welfare state.
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Well, if one voted for Johnson and that leftist Weld, you did vote for progressives. OTOH, I’m all in favor of doing away with it for young people, just not stabbing folks in the back who paid the contributions in for 40 plus years or more
 
JonNC said:
Well, if one voted for Johnson and that leftist Weld, you did vote for progressives. OTOH, I’m all in favor of doing away with it for young people, just not stabbing folks in the back who paid the contributions in for 40 plus years or more
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As I say to my students, their failure to do their homework does not create an emergency that requires me to do more work. It was well known decades ago that social security was a welfare scheme. Just because people were too foolish to do their homework does not obligate working people to sacrifice for them.

What positions of Johnson were progressive?
 
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