What are Noahide Laws?

[Valke2]

First, we have to determine if idol worship per se is one of the 7 Noahide Laws.

It is in the sense that there is a requirement to believe in God. And not to woship idols. This is not a natural belief necessarily. That is, it is not something that one might feel is innate in our nature. A person who follows the Noahide law here does so because they recognize that it was revealed to the Israelites at Sinai.

From a Jewish perspecitve, if one is giving allegience to something other than God, wheather it is money, an idol, or something else, then they are breaking this commandment.

Keep in mind that while there are “only 7” of these laws, like everything else in Judaism, they are more complicated then they first appear. And therefore you can find a lot of commentary on how such laws are to be obeyed.

 

[lukewarm]

yes. If you converted to Judaism you would be eligible to migrate to Israel under the right of return. You are wrong. ANy convert to Judaism is allowed to take advantage of the right to return. Moreover, any non jew who can prove he is the son, grandson, or spouse of a Jew, can also take advantage of the law.

To sum up. All Jews, converts or otherwise, fall under the law of return. Non Jews who are the child, grandchild or spouse of a Jew also can take advanatge of the right of return. This is to ensure that people who are not considered jews under halacha but are nevertheless subject to antisemetism, have a place in Israel.

And, of course, a Non-Jew who doesn’t fit into any of the above categories, can still immigrate to Israel, if they met requirements that are pretty much the same as other countries.

I don’t have any agenda, if I’m wrong I’m wrong and I was misinformed, thank you for “setting me straight” and I apologize. I’m not an anti-semite, however I don’t agree with Judaism’s stance that God prefers Jews, I find it an outdated tribal supremicist ideology.

However I will add that you are greatly downplaying the tribal/racial aspect of Judaism in this topic.

 

[Valke2]

I don’t have any agenda, if I’m wrong I’m wrong and I was misinformed, thank you for “setting me straight” and I apologize. I’m not an anti-semite, however I don’t agree with Judaism’s stance that God prefers Jews, I find it an outdated tribal supremicist ideology.

However I will add that you are greatly downplaying the tribal/racial aspect of Judaism in this topic.

How can I be downplaying the tribal/racial aspect of Judaism with respect to Israel’s law of return? That doesn’t make any sense. You’ve made several statements that are demonstrably untrue. Your opinion that “Judaism’s stance that God prefers Jews is an outdated tribal supremicist ideology” has nothing to do with your allegations that one cannot convert to Judaism, or that converts cannot emmigrate to Israel, or that it is almost impossible to have a conversion recognized as sufficient to allow one to take advantage of the Law of Return.

 

[RPConover]

First, we have to determine if idol worship per se is one of the 7 Noahide Laws.

It is in the sense that there is a requirement to believe in God. And not to woship idols. This is not a natural belief necessarily. That is, it is not something that one might feel is innate in our nature. A person who follows the Noahide law here does so because they recognize that it was revealed to the Israelites at Sinai.

From a Jewish perspecitve, if one is giving allegience to something other than God, wheather it is money, an idol, or something else, then they are breaking this commandment.

Keep in mind that while there are “only 7” of these laws, like everything else in Judaism, they are more complicated then they first appear. And therefore you can find a lot of commentary on how such laws are to be obeyed.

I’m just curious… if a gentile fails in some aspect of keeping these laws, do they have any avenue to gain forgiveness for their transgressions?

 

[Valke2]

I’m just curious… if a gentile fails in some aspect of keeping these laws, do they have any avenue to gain forgiveness for their transgressions?

Sure. The same ways Jew do. Through prayer, good deeds and repentence. (the elements of reprentence in Judaism are generally: a. recognizing the sin, really understanding what you did wrong; b. asking God and if necessary the person you wronged for forgiveness; c. Taking whatever steps you can to right the wrong; d. resolving not to commit the sin in the future. d. When confronted with a similar situation, you do the right thing instead of what you did in the past.)