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Mommyof02green
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Syele
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How oftten to you steal money from your mother and go buy beer with it? How often to you lie, or sin in other ways?
You care about what God thinks of you and you also repent when you sin, correct? If you do this, sincerely, It would not be hard to not Blaspheme the Holy Spirit, however the long you go without confessing and getting right with God the harder it will become. Ever heard a Catholic avoid Confession because it’s been so long? It only gets harder the longer you wait.
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TheGarg
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Peace be to you Kathleen!! Good Job! …Confession is an act of mercy from our Father and is to be cherished!!! i go once a week!!
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Coder
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Yes, confession can be embarassing, uncomfortable, humiliating, and challenging. That’s probably a sign it’s good for us since our fallen human nature is so uncomfortable with it. This is a gift to help us purify. People who don’t accept the sacrament may say they pray and confess. However, with the gift of confession available why would anyone not want the assurance of forgiveness it offers especially for serious sin? People prayed before the incarnation. Yet when Jesus was present, He forgave in person. He said he would not leave us orphans. He gave us the gift to be forgiven by a priest acting ***in person ***for Jesus!!!
May we Catholics also never forget how exciting this is and how exciting our whole faith is!!!
Also, for serious sin, I think the discomfort is often overrided by the joy of being forgiven. May we all remember to always be ready to forgive others, and yes this is challenging as we know.
May we Catholics also never forget how exciting this is and how exciting our whole faith is!!!
Also, for serious sin, I think the discomfort is often overrided by the joy of being forgiven. May we all remember to always be ready to forgive others, and yes this is challenging as we know.
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Syele
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Pug never said he didn’t believe in confession to a priest. He said it’s something heard alot and should be addressed in the article.
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Pug
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Syele is correct. I was providing a hypothetical objection. I do accept the seven sacraments. I like confession.
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jmcrae
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I went to Confession last night, and it really makes a huge difference. I was confessing my sins to God directly all week long, but then I realized that I was not going to get past them very easily, so I went to Confession, and then I had the first good night’s sleep in about four days.
I think Jesus gave us Confession so that we could be able to physically hear His voice giving us the Absolution, through the “window” of the priest.
I think Jesus gave us Confession so that we could be able to physically hear His voice giving us the Absolution, through the “window” of the priest.
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Coder
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That’s wonderful! What a great gift it is!
I think that we find real growth in receiving the sacrament. I think this may be part of the working out of our salvation that St. Paul refers to.
I think that we find real growth in receiving the sacrament. I think this may be part of the working out of our salvation that St. Paul refers to.
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JoeyWarren
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Syele, the Bible says otherwise.
For this scripture I am going to use the BBE version
1Jo 5:16 If a man sees his brother doing a sin which is not bad enough for death, let him make a prayer to God, and God will give life to him whose sin was not bad enough for death. There is a sin whose punishment is death: I do not say that he may make such a request then.
17 All evil-doing is sin: but death is not the punishment for every sort of sin.
Sin that which is not bad enough for death is a Venial Sin
Sin that whose punishment is death is Mortal Sin
Since we are no longer bound by the Old Testament Law, then the death is not the physical death penalty imposed by the Old Testament.
This death is the death of the soul, the eternal separation from God.
The non belief of different degrees of sin is an “Protestant Overeaction”. IE If the Catholics believe it, then the “Enlightened Common Sense” interpretation must mean something else.
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happygal
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Well confessing to one another is not heresy, however only God has the authority to absorb and forgive our sins, because priest are human too, especially if the priest are in the stage of sinning, then how would he be in any position absorb others sins!!! And if the priest is in a stage of sinning against God, he would probably praying everyday , confessing his sins to God and not confessing it to others priest!!!
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LSK
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Christ forgives the sin - the priest acts in the person of Christ. AND this is the reason our Popes have confessors…I understand JPII tried to receive the Sacrament of Reconcilliation every day.
I like St. Frances de Sales attitude…when asked if he would receive the Holy Eucharist from a priest who he knew was having an affair, he said that he would receive the Sacrament from the ordained hands and then pray fervently that the sinner who had the hands would repent.
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Mommyof02green
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NOT true… priest go to confession too… They confess their sins to another priest.
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happygal
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Oh that is good to hear, however priest are not sinless, we can confess our sin to him however he is not pure enough to absorb the sin. And it is not incorrent for me as a protestant to confess my sin to my pastor and ask him to pray for me and continue to reconcile with God to seek his forgiveness through prayer and fasting…
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jmcrae
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He doesn’t “absorb” the sin; he absolves it. He does this by operating in persona Christi, which means that Jesus makes the priest a kind of a “window” through which He speaks to us. The words of Absolution spoken by the priest are actually Christ’s words to us.
Sure, you could do that. Only a Catholic priest actually has the ability to absolve us from our sins, though.
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Mommyof02green
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happygal-- you really should re-read some of the other posts in this thread. Maybe read them twice. Once for the head and once for the heart.
from an earlier post in this thread:
If you would of clicked on the web-link you would of seen this:
from the above web-link:
He forgives sins through the priest! Who forgives sins through the priest? Christ forgives sins through the priest.
Honestly, I know that God has forgiven me, even before I walk into the confessional. However, it is nice to “hear” it from someone else. It’s nice to actually “hear” the words that you are forgiven.
Think about it… you do something, you know that the person you wrong has forgiven you, even before you can say something to them. You know that the person has forgiven you because they love you and always forgives you… However you always feel better after you “hear” them say that they forgive you.
When I go to confession… I do NOT “hear” the priest. I “hear” God saying, Mommyof02green I forgive you!!! It is wonderful to actually hear God say those words.
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Coder
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Learn, study, contemplate, and pray about how Jesus has made us participants in His work of salvation. No question, it is He alone who saves us. He offers this salvation in sacraments of His grace. His use of fallen humans in his work of salvation is by divine wisdom for His purpose. This allowance of participation is itself a manifestation of His mercy. To have new life we must follow God’s wisdom - not our own. In the Bible God tells us that His thoughts are higher than ours.
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Also yes, as someone pointed out, the priests do not absorb the sin of the penitent. They ***absolve ***by the power of the Holy Spirit.
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Syele
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Obviously one of us is mistaken. I’m sure that reguardless of how much scripture we throw at one another I will continue to think you are mistaken and you will continue to think I’m mistaken. I’d rather just be nice and say I believe this, you believe that and skip the Bible war.Why would there be two different sets of rules - one set of rules for you, and one for us?
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Syele
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Protestant Interpretation.
vs 13 this is written specifically to believers
vs 14 &15 God listens to our requests.
vs 16 If a Christian commits a sin we should pray for him to be forgiven. There is a sin that leads to death (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit) Praying for forgiveness of that sin is pointless.
vs 17 All wrongdoing is sin. Believers (As per verses 10-12) are promised eternal life, but yet can still sin and not go to eternal death.
vs 18 -19 those who are true Christians will repent and not continue to sin. As Christians, the Devil cannot harm us.
vs 20 We have been given understanding so we can know Jesus
vs 21 We must keep ourselves from idols.
Joey, It’s not an overrreaction based on Catholics. Believing in mortal and venial sins in the way Catholics do violates the other beliefs of protestants. It would make this area contradict other areas. Everything is not about denying the Catholic faith.
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