What are some biblical prophecies that came true and prove the Bible's validity?

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The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple comes to mind.🙂
 
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The Old Testament is replete with prophecies that point to Jesus’ birth, death, resurrection. Instead of looking for the quick fix, why not purchase a study bible (a really good one) and read for yourself?
 
Crack open a Bible and a study aid, n’ start readin’. Do your own homework. 👍
 
Isaiah 53 is facinating. Keeping in mind it was written centuries before Jesus was born, it is amazing how acurate it predicts his passion. Psalm 22 is equally fascinating. Jesus actually prays this psalm during his crucifixion. See John 19 and compare it with Psalm 22.

2 Samuel 7:4-17 tells how the Messiah will come from the House of David.

Isaiah 60:6 predicts the coming of the magi (which occurs in Matthew 2:10-11).
 
Well, I’m actually an atheist. I was just investigating claims that prophecy proves the Bible to be true.
 
I’ve heard the argument from a number of people. At least one was on Yahoo Answers; another, maybe on Youtube. I don’t really find Messianic prophecy convincing, because it’s not even proven Jesus existed and the authors of the NT could easily have doctored their stories to fit “prophecy.”
 
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I’ve heard the argument from a number of people. At least one was on Yahoo Answers; another, maybe on Youtube. I don’t really find Messianic prophecy convincing, because it’s not even proven Jesus existed and the authors of the NT could easily have doctored their stories to fit “prophecy.”
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There is great evidence that Jesus existed.
 
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I’ve heard the argument from a number of people. At least one was on Yahoo Answers; another, maybe on Youtube. I don’t really find Messianic prophecy convincing, because it’s not even proven Jesus existed and the authors of the NT could easily have doctored their stories to fit “prophecy.”
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Jesus was a common name back then, technically still is to some degree, under the transliteration of Joshua. So, it can be said that there had to have been someone named Jesus during that time period in that area. Also though, there have been non-Christian sources from around the period which also acknowledge the existence of a man named Jesus making the claims of being the Messiah in that area. I can’t remember the sources, but I’m sure someone will be able to remember them. A search might turn up something too.
 
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because it’s not even proven Jesus existed
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Tacitus, Suetonius and Josephus Flavius among others disagree with you. We have more proof of the existence of Jesus than we do most historical figures from antiquity.
 
Suetonius was born 69 AD - after “Jesus” died; Josephus, AD 37.
 
MarcoPolo said:
See the article: Three Prophesies About Christ That Couldn’t Have Been Made Up

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In the interpretation, Daniel prophesies that there will be four succeeding kingdoms (starting with the Babylonians)
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Fot a start it’s not about a son of God, it’s about an ordinary man sufffering persecution and keeping his faith.
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The first line - My God, My God, why have you forsaken me - just goes to show the way the New Testament crucifixion accounts were cobbled together by people who knew nothing much about the historcial jesus, if he existed. One writer put this well-known Psalm verse into Jesus’ mouth, others chose alternatives (Forgive them, they know not what they do/it is finished/into thy hands I commend my spirit) - thus causing problems for generations of theologians trying to explain how ‘God the Son’ who became incarnate to save mankind by his death and who knew exactly what he was doing, felt ‘forsaken’.
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This is the same explanation for the apparent ‘prophecy’ in the passage about men casting lots for the suffering man’s clothing (ie the NT writer pillaged this bit and put it in his account).
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And the bit (vs. 8) where the oppressors say ‘he trusted God let God set him free’.
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Don;t forget the NT compilers were writing TRYING to show that Jesus was the expected Messiah in any way they could. Look at the desperate lengths Matthew goes to in his infancy narratives, for example.
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Verse 16 is a classic example of how some Bible translations tweak words to make Chritianity seem true - NIV Bible - ‘they have pierced my hands and feet’.
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but New Jerusalem Bible (modern Catholic translation) - ’ a gang of vilains closing in around me, as if to hack off my hands and feet’
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Jewish Tanakh - ‘like lions they maul my hands and feet’
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Which is the right one!? I guess the ‘they pierced’ reference is just a blatant attempt to make it sound like a reference to crucifixion.
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PS I just looked at that Xtian site and the person misses out passages that don;t sound like crucifixion. For example the bit before the part about disjointed bones (nb ARE bones disjointed in crucifixion? Not sure. I think the victim dies of exhaustion and suffocation, his limbs are not necessarily disjointed):
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Many bulls are encircling me,
wild bulls of bashan closing in on me,
Lions ravening and roaring
open their jaws at me
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My strength is trickling away
my boes are all disjointed
my heart has turned to wax
melting inside me
my mouth is as dry as earthj=enware
my tongue sticks to my jaw
you lay me down in the dust of death
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A pack of dogs surrounds me
a gang of villains etc.’’
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Now whether he’s referring to actual animals, or a pack of violent men, it still doesn’t sound like crucufixion to me, much less the ‘very accuracte’ depiction of it that site claims.
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The bit about the whole world bowing to Jehovah? - just a pious Jew’s belief in his God being the one true one and his optimism that his faith will eventually triumph over adversity.
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The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, says the Lord of hosts. 9 The latter splendor of this house shall be greater than the former
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If the idea was to make it more lavish, of course it could be.
 
CeaselessMedik said:
Suetonius was born 69 AD - after “Jesus” died; Josephus, AD 37.
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Yet they are considered reliable sources on many other historical matters including those which happened more than a generation before their time. What of Tacitus who would have had access to all the relevant records? What about the references to Jesus the Nazarene in the Talmud? What of the fact that all contemporary or near contemporary sources including those who were enemies of Christianity agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a real historical figure? It is a stunning act of historical revisionism to try to assert that Jesus did not exist. We have more evidence that he did than we do for many figures of that era.
 
CeaselessMedik said:
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Luke 21:24
They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
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At the time the Jerusalem Temple was the home for Jews…This verse is in the context of the Destruction of the Temple…does it not shock you that the Temple still till this day does not exist because the Jews can never regain their Temple?..how would the Bible know this…unless by prophecy? It is my understanding the the time of the Gentiles is when God will accept the offering of Gentiles over the offering of Jews…hence this is fulfilled by the Church.
Malachi 1:11 Douay Rheims
For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.
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The real question an atheist needs to look into is not so much as to what the BIble actually prophesies…but rather the question needs to be asked by an atheist of what is love? Until a atheist can LOGICALLY answer what is love…then I will be a reasonable Christian.
 
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