What are some of the main reasons that people are attracted to the Protestant faith?

[GKC]

Have you read the 30000 rebuttal from Eric Svendsen ? I think on Lazyboy something or other. Can’t advertise actual site out of respect for forum guidelines. i think you intimated you have seen them cause you mentioned not plagiarizing. I got seven main goups to Catholics one. If you further define, numbers go up for both sides (Catholic and P’S).

I only glanced at it, since I long ago found using the World Christian Trends/World Christian Encyclopedia problematic, in this area, for a variety of reasons.

Plagiarism referred to another subject.

GKC

 

[Isaiah45_9]

Thank you but you are still in fourth century not first or second and Cyril’s spiritual sacrifice , was it a mystical or symbolic or literal body and blood ? Somewhere it went from a thanksgiving to an atoning "sacrifice’’. Somewhere it went what God did and offered to and for us to what we do and offer back to God. As an early father wrote, our only sacrifice is one of thanksgiving and praise. There is a reason why it is called Eucharist (Thanksgiving), and it needs no second act ( anything to follow or to be added such as re-presenting).

Ben,

I can make all the demands I want, as to make it impossible for anything to be proven.

The remembrance of the sacrifice is spiritual but the bread and wine are the body and blood.

Justin Martyr’s 1st Apology - 2nd century, confirms this:

CHAPTER LXVI – OF THE EUCHARIST.

And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, “This do ye in remembrance of Me, this is My body;” and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, “This is My blood;” and gave it to them alone. Which the wicked devils have imitated in the mysteries of Mithras, commanding the same thing to be done. For, that bread and a cup of water are placed with certain incantations in the mystic rites of one who is being initiated, you either know or can learn.

And so does Ignatius of Antioch - again 2nd century

They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again. It is fitting, therefore, that ye should keep aloof from such persons, and not to speak of them either in private or in public, but to give heed to the prophets, and above all, to the Gospel, in which the passion [of Christ] has been revealed to us, and the resurrection has been fully proved. But avoid all divisions, as the beginning of evils.

The Fathers are individuals that have great insights, but their comments need to be seen within the context of the Church.

4th century is not enough for you…

If I were to demand things for the Church, in the 21st century, to be like the 1st century… I’d be an agnostic.

That Church didn’t have a New Testament or a determined Old Testament for that matter. Just a collection of pious books and a collection of Jewish literature that was referred to as Scriptures…

That Church was persecuted, tortured and murdered. They met in hiding in several places…

So I’d be an agnostic, and agnostic I’d be.

However, that Church grew as Christ promised, He never abandoned Her.

So I am a Catholic, a Catholic I am.

 

[stewstew03]

John 4:23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for such the Father seeks to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

I don’t know of any other way more proper and scriptural way of worship…

Introductory Rites:

Sign of the Cross:
“In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” (Matt 28:19; cf. John 14:13-14; Acts 2:21)

Liturgical Greeting:
“The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” (2 Cor 13:14)
“Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ” (Phil 1:2; Eph 1:2)
“The Lord be with you.” (2 Tim 4:22; cf. Matt 1:23; 28:20)

People’s Response:
“And with your spirit” (cf. Gal 6:18; 2 Tim 4:22)

Rite of Blessing and Sprinkling Holy Water (see Ezek 36:25; cf. Num 8:7a)

Penitential Act:
Intro: “Let us acknowledge our sins, and so prepare ourselves to celebrate the sacred mysteries.” (cf. Ps 51:5)
“I confess to almighty God…” (cf. Lev 5:5; Neh 1:5-9; Dan 9:3-19; James 5:16)
“Have mercy on us, O Lord. / For we have sinned against you. / Show us, O Lord, your mercy. / And grant us your salvation.” (Ps 41:4)
“Lord, Have Mercy” (Matt 15:22; 17:15; 20:30-31; cf. Ps 123:3)

Gloria:
“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to people of good will” (Luke 2:14; cf. Rev 4:11; 5:11-14)
“We praise you, we bless you, we adore you, we glorify you…” (Cf. Ps 148:13)
“Lord Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son” (cf. Ps 2:7; John 1:14)
“Lord God, Lamb of God, Son of the Father, you take away the sins of the world…” (cf.
John 1:29)etc.
Prayers concluded by “Amen” (Neh 8:6; Ps 41:13; Rom 16:27; Heb 13:20-21; Rev 7:16)

Liturgy of the Word:

Introductory/Concluding Dialogues:
“A reading from the book/letter of…”
“The Word of the Lord” (1 Peter 1:25) - “Thanks be to God” (Rom 6:17; 2 Cor 9:15)
“A reading from the holy Gospel according to…” - “Glory to you, O Lord”
“The Gospel of the Lord” (Rom 16:25; Mark 1:1) - “Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ”

Acclamations before the Gospel:
“Alleluia” (many Psalms, esp. Ps 146-150; Rev 19:1-6)
“Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ, King of endless glory!” (cf. Ps 24:7-10; 1 Thess 2:12; 2 Tim 4:18)
“Praise and honor to you, Lord Jesus Christ!” (cf. Dan 4:34, 37; 1 Peter 1:7)
“Glory and praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ!” (cf. Phil 1:11)

Profession of Faith:
“I believe…” (Mark 9:24; John 11:27; cf. John 14:1; 1 John 5:10)

General Intercessions:
“We pray to the Lord” (Exod 8:29-30; 10:17-18; Jer 42:2-4; Acts 8:22-24)
“Lord, hear our prayer” (2 Kings 20:2-5; Isa 38:2-5)

Liturgy of the Eucharist:

Preparation of the Gifts:
“Blessed are you, Lord God of all creation…” (cf. 1 Chron 29:10; Ps 72:18-19; 119:10; Luke 1:68)
"Blessed be God forever. " (cf. Gen 14:20; Ps 66:20; 68:35)

Eucharistic Acclamations:
“Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts…” (Isa 6:3; Rev 4:8)
“Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.” (Ps 118:26; Mark 11:9; Matt 21:9; Luke 19:38; John 12:13)
“Hosanna in the highest” (Mark 11:10; Matt 21:9; cf. Luke 19:38)

Words of Institution: (see Mark 14:22-24; Matt 26:26-28; cf. Luke 22:17-20; 1 Cor 11:23-25)
“Take this, all of you, and eat of it, for this is my Body, which will be given up for you” (a combination of Mark 14:22; Matt 26:26; Luke 22:19; 1 Cor 11:24)
“Take this, all of you, and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my Blood, the Blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins.” (a combination of Mark 14:24; Matt 26:27b-28; cf. Luke 22:17, 20; 1 Cor 11:25)
“Do this in remembrance of me” (only Luke 22:19; 1 Cor 11:24a, 25b)

Memorial Acclamations:
“We proclaim your Death, O Lord, and profess your Resurrection until you come again.” (cf. 1 Cor 16:22)
“When we eat this Bread and drink this Cup, we proclaim your Death, O Lord, until you come again.” (cf. 1 Cor 11:26)
“Save us, Savior of the world, for by your Cross and Resurrection you have set us free.” (cf. Matt 8:25; Luke 4:42; Rom 8:21)

Lord’s Prayer:
“Our Father in heaven…” (Matt 6:9-13; cf. Luke 11:2-4; Mark 14:36; Gal 4:6)

Embolism: “Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil… as we await the blessed hope and the coming of our Saviour, Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13)

Doxology: “For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours…”
(found only in some biblical manuscripts after Matt 6:13; cf. Rev 4:11; 11:15; 1 Chron 29:11)

Greeting of Peace:
“Lord Jesus Christ, you said to your apostles, ‘I leave you peace, my peace I give you’” (John 14:27)
“The peace of the Lord be with you always.” (cf. John 16:33; 20:19, 21, 26)

Breaking of the Bread:
“Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world…” (cf. John 1:29, 36; Rev 5:6-13; 22:1-3)

Preparation before Communion:
“Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.” (John 1:29, 36; Rev 19:9)
“Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.” (Matt 8:8; cf. Luke 7:1-10)

Concluding Rite:
Final Blessing (cf. Gen 28:3; Deut 14:29; Num 6:23-27; Ps 29:11)

Dismissal:
“Go forth, the Mass is ended.”
“Go and announce the Gospel of the Lord.” (cf. Mark 16:15)
“Go in peace, glorifying the Lord by your life.” (cf. Ps 115:1; 1 Cor 10:31; 2 Thess 1:12)
“Go in peace.” (cf. Exod 4:18; Deut 10:11-13; Judg 18:6; 1 Sam 1:17; Mark 5:34; Luke 7:50; 8:48)

And how [exactly] is the Catholic style of worship not [proper]?

Thanks for this!

 

[Cat]

I don’t know if the Catholics here recognize this but making the Church sound immature “rockin bible-thumpin” makes it sound like those who are a part of said Church where rock music is prevalent must not be intellectual. I find that offensive as there are ways to speak of reasons a Protestant may go to said Church without demeaning the conduct within.

Catholic style of worship is actually a by product of an old culture and not the “proper” way to worship, although it is one way and there’s nothing wrong with it.

There’s also nothing wrong with the Church going to Africa and playing worship music to the beat of a drum, or Gospel music in some of the black neighborhoods of the United States, or an electric guitar for those who like that sort of music. The CC wants to remain in the past, and that’s fine for some; there’s nothing wrong with it, but contemporary worship can not be downplayed; it’s just as important.

Psalm 150.

This is what I said waaaay back when this thread first opened–we cannot underestimate the importance of music in worship. It’s one of the main reasons that people are attracted to Protestant churches.

A lot of the more traditional-leaning Catholics and Protestants pooh-pooh contemporary Christian music (CCM), using pejorative names for this style of music (e.g., hootenanny music) and pronounce that it only appeals to certain “unthinking, emotional types.”

This is utterly untrue.

Also, a lot of traditional-leaning Catholics and Protestants insist that “young people” are flocking in droves to churches (Catholic and Protestant) that offer high-brow traditional and ancient music.

Well, perhaps in some cities, but I think that this is basically untrue. Most of the older Protestant churches in my city have given up on traditional music and use it only in their “traditional worship service,” which is attended by a few dozen elderly people. No young people.

And the Masses in our city that seem to be filled with teenagers and younger people are those that feature good contemporary music.

I love traditional music, and if I had my way, I would attend a Catholic Church where the organ was the principle instrument, and traditional hymns in the vernacular were the staple. For those on this thread who don’t know me, I am a pianist who has played in churches since I was a girl (I’m 57), and three years ago, I started taking organ lessons from the best liturgical organ teacher in my city. I’m making slow progress–I can now play hymns in the Mass, but only if I practice hard. I can’t accompany Mass parts yet on the organ, but I’m working on it. And I can play some lovely preludes and postludes, including several advanced Bach pieces.

But I also love a lot of the traditional praise and even the contemporary praise music. I’m not fond of Praise and Worship music because it is so repetitive, but I don’t hate it. I am a very good pianist when it comes to accompanying contemporary music, and I play for the inter-generational choir in my church that tends to do a lot of Matt Maher and Audrey Assad pieces. No problem for me, and the people in the congregation seem to love this music.

I believe that organ music will become rarer and rarer in churches of all denominations, as well as the Catholic Church, because the number of people learning to play the organ is becoming smaller. The American Guild of Organists Magazine last month announced that **last year, only 198 students majored in Organ in the United States, and even less were enrolled in Master’s Degree programs. This should be very sobering to Catholics who hope to hear more organ music in the Catholic Mass. It won’t happen. **Those few organists who graduate will be looking for positions in churches that are willing to pay them WELL, a living wage at the very least. The Catholic Church does not do this, and will have a very difficult time finding well-qualified organists. They’ll have to settle for people like me, who can play, but not with the skill that a young organist has acquired from years of practicing for many hours a day in a college program.

It is my hope and prayer that someday, hopefully in my lifetime, that the Catholic Church will hold a world-wide colloquium to discuss the musical direction of the Church. I personally believe that although it is good to hold onto the traditional music and foster love of the organ and even chant, I also think that it is unrealistic, in the face of declining music education in the public and private schools, to expect that this kind of music will be possible in most Catholic parishes. I would like to see the Church examine different styles of music, as well as delve deeply into ethnomusicology, and come up with a more realistic approach to Mass music in the Catholic Church.

Right now, music is the “M” word in Catholic teaching circles. We never hear it discussed at the various Catholic Family Conferences. There are Sacred Music Conferences in the U.S., but these definitely cater to those parishes and cities that already HAVE a good program of traditional music and the money (mainly through corporate sponsors in their cities) to continue this program. Most parishes don’t have these resources, and can barely afford to pay a church music director a living wage.

Meanwhile, a lot of the Protestant churches make music a major priority, and pay their Music Pastor a very generous salary, along with allowance for continuing education at the various music seminars and conferences around the world. The megachurches HIRE their Praise and Worship bands, and they are GOOD musicians, not the “boomers” that volunteer to play in many smaller Protestant churches. Many Protestant churches also have wonderful musicians performing solos and ensemble numbers every week–this really draws in the people, including many Catholics who are STARVED for really good, uplifiting Christian music!

 

[test_oh]

First post so don’t be too harsh

I was brought up Catholic but am currently considering conversion to Protestantism. Regardless of Catholic doctrine, at the moment it is general scientific consensus that sexuality can not be controlled. As a gay Catholic, it’s therefore difficult to come to terms with the view that the Church in some ways has of people of the lgbt community.

Whilst there are protestant faiths that are homophobic and staunchly so, there are also ones that are tolerant, open and accepting towards people of minority sexualities. I personally don’t believe that Jesus would judge something on something so minute and uncontrollable so for me, protestant communities like the ones I have described are attractive.

I know the music has been brought up and it wouldn’t really be a factor either way, but “Zion” and “All of the Above” are great albums by Hillsong, either in a worship or non-worship scenario

Whether or not your priest/pastor is relatable is a localised issue and I’m not taking a diss at those who choose celibacy but for me, the protestant view of a church-leader, a “layman” who can marry, have sex, have children etc is far more likely to understand the problems and situation of ordinary people, which surely builds for a far more positive atmosphere.

Plus, from people I know who are deeply religious and in protestant faiths, there seems to be a much stronger community atmosphere and bond between worshippers, which is great because I’m sure everyone can agree that actions are better than words.

Those are just my personal reasons for being attracted to Protestantism as a faith

 

[benediclouis333]

If this has been asked before, feel free to direct me to a previous thread. I’ve been poking around CAF for a few months now, but I’m still newer and still exploring all the different forums and topics and have likely missed recent discussions. I was raised non-denominational Christian, but kind of fell away from church during my 20s. I didn’t stop believing in God, but I felt something was lacking in my church experiences and no longer felt like I belonged there. I’ve lately been considering the Catholic faith and have a feeling I eventually will be, but I’m in the questioning phase right now.

My question is this: Kind of specifically for those ex-Catholic CAF posters (or anyone else familiar with people’s reasons for leaving the Catholic faith) - What are some of the main reasons that people leave the Catholic faith for Protestant faith?

Having come from a Protestant upbringing, I know why I became disenchanted with Protestantism, but Protestantism obviously must have draw for some as many people leave other faiths for it. I’m curious at to what that draw typically is.

Am I just “bored” by Protestantism because it’s what I grew up in, and that’s why I’m turning to Catholicism? If I had instead grown up Catholic, would I have eventually gotten bored of Catholicism and switched to Protestantism, just because it was different? Or could my convictions toward Catholicism be genuine?

Well, I won’t say protestantism on a whole but, would certainly say “pentecostalism”. The main reason is because if you were to meet a member of this group they would say that they don’t believe in anything but only in Jesus. It is mainly of having a relationship with Christ through Spiritual way. This way was done by catholics even before these so called church began it was much before 1800 A.D . But, the fact remains that most Catholics don’t know about it. Even today you can find so many catholic charismatics. Charismatic renewal is not modern but, rather a part of the tradition. However, said that so It won’t and can’t and will never replace the **Holy Mass **. Coming to your question why they are growing well, Most non-christians think before joining catholicism is the nothing more than holy mass and our failures to explain our faith to them since most of us of unaware of the things of the church. Which is unfortunate!

 

[Simoooon95]

Well, I won’t say protestantism on a whole but, would certainly say “pentecostalism”. The main reason is because if you were to meet a member of this group they would say that they don’t believe in anything but only in Jesus. It is mainly of having a relationship with Christ through Spiritual way. This way was done by catholics even before these so called church began it was much before 1800 A.D . But, the fact remains that most Catholics don’t know about it. Even today you can find so many catholic charismatics. Charismatic renewal is not modern but, rather a part of the tradition. However, said that so It won’t and can’t and will never replace the **Holy Mass **. Coming to your question why they are growing well, Most non-christians think before joining catholicism is the nothing more than holy mass and our failures to explain our faith to them since most of us of unaware of the things of the church. Which is unfortunate!

Oh,I’m pentecostal

Okay,back to topic,
I will state my opinion in a protestant view of point. I live in a country which is very secular in Christian beliefs. Protestantism and Catholicsm are the majority of all religions though. My reigion is mainly catholic, BUT protestant church services are nearly always full unlike Catholic ones. In my church are many young people. the most there are under 40 years. Our community is growing and not declining and even catholic teenagers begin to join our community and become protestants. In my view that is awesome. They mainly join because they have fun and can do things together. The church services are not “boring”. (I don’t agree joining a church though just to be entertained).
But I like that protestantism gets more relevant again. Especially in Latin America,Asia and Africa.

 

[benhur]

That’s the most accurate statistic, I think. :sad_yes:

Yup, we don’t want to leave anyone out and possibly hurt their feelings.

:yup:

 

[PRmerger]

I personally don’t believe that Jesus would judge something on something so minute and uncontrollable so for me, protestant communities like the ones I have described are attractive.

Let me just ask you something, test: where do you get the idea that Jesus wouldn’t judge you on this?

Answer: from the Catholic Church.

It is because of the Catholic Church preserving the kerygma for you that you know that Jesus loves you.

And if the CC got it right about that, why do you think the CC gets it wrong about other things?

How do you know when she is right and when she is wrong?

 

[PRmerger]

Yup, we don’t want to leave anyone out and possibly hurt their feelings.

:yup:

Not sure what you mean? How would someone’s feelings be hurt because he was not included in that obscene number of Christian denominations?

 

[Sy_Noe]

First post so don’t be too harsh

I was brought up Catholic but am currently considering conversion to Protestantism. Regardless of Catholic doctrine, at the moment it is general scientific consensus that sexuality can not be controlled. As a gay Catholic, it’s therefore difficult to come to terms with the view that the Church in some ways has of people of the lgbt community.

Whilst there are protestant faiths that are homophobic and staunchly so, there are also ones that are tolerant, open and accepting towards people of minority sexualities. I personally don’t believe that Jesus would judge something on something so minute and uncontrollable so for me, protestant communities like the ones I have described are attractive.

I know the music has been brought up and it wouldn’t really be a factor either way, but “Zion” and “All of the Above” are great albums by Hillsong, either in a worship or non-worship scenario

Whether or not your priest/pastor is relatable is a localised issue and I’m not taking a diss at those who choose celibacy but for me, the protestant view of a church-leader, a “layman” who can marry, have sex, have children etc is far more likely to understand the problems and situation of ordinary people, which surely builds for a far more positive atmosphere.

Plus, from people I know who are deeply religious and in protestant faiths, there seems to be a much stronger community atmosphere and bond between worshippers, which is great because I’m sure everyone can agree that actions are better than words.

Those are just my personal reasons for being attracted to Protestantism as a faith

Welcome. I won’t be harsh at all. Because the ones that are tolerant, accepting, open and affirming to all His created children regardless of sexual orientation, gender, etc are attractive to me as well. Thanks for sharing your reasons.

 

[Sy_Noe]

Let me just ask you something, test: where do you get the idea that Jesus wouldn’t judge you on this?

Answer: from the Catholic Church.

It is because of the Catholic Church preserving the kerygma for you that you know that Jesus loves you.

And if the CC got it right about that, why do you think the CC gets it wrong about other things?

How do you know when she is right and when she is wrong?

I’ve noticed you have this question a lot. I can’t answer for test-oh of course but for me in the end the same as you do. By faith and belief. You have faith and belief she’s right on all other things. Is infallible on teachings. Others don’t. And yes there may very likely be one Truth and not everyone is going to be right on everything. If anyone is. Humans are fallible with finite minds. I don’t believe any human can truly say they know. They believe they know. That’s why we call it faith. To begin with I have faith and belief there is a God for instance. Atheists don’t. I have belief Jesus is the Savior. Those of the Jewish faith don’t. I pray on it and can only strive to understand deep within my conscience, as CCC even says where we are alone with God. That’s my answer and I’m not going to get into a further debate with you about my answer.

 

[PRmerger]

I’ve noticed you have this question a lot.

Yes.

I can’t answer for test-oh of course but for me in the end the same as you do. By faith and belief. You have faith and belief she’s right on all other things. Is infallible on teachings. Others don’t

.

So then what you do is decide where the Church is right and wrong based on your own personal preferences.

That is creating a god in your own image.

You propose:

I like the idea that God is love, so I decide that the CC got it right on this issue.

I don’t like the idea that there is a hell. So I decide that the CC got it wrong here.

I like the idea that God forgives me, so I decide that the CC got it right on this issue.

I don’t like the idea that I have to actually confess my sins to a priest, so I decide that the CC got it wrong here.

What is your frame of reference for where the CC got it right and wrong?
The almighty I, Me and Myself.

That’s a very, very treacherous paradigm, Sy. Treacherous indeed.

 

[Simoooon95]

Let me just ask you something, test: where do you get the idea that Jesus wouldn’t judge you on this?

Answer: from the Catholic Church.

It is because of the Catholic Church preserving the kerygma for you that you know that Jesus loves you.

And if the CC got it right about that, why do you think the CC gets it wrong about other things?

How do you know when she is right and when she is wrong?

The protestant church says the same though and is in a lot cases more liberal than the Catholic church.
Not to offend,but what do you think personally about the protestant/pentecostal church?

 

[Sy_Noe]

Yes.

.

So then what you do is decide where the Church is right and wrong based on your own personal preferences.

That is creating a god in your own image.

You propose:

I like the idea that God is love, so I decide that the CC got it right on this issue.

I don’t like the idea that there is a hell. So I decide that the CC got it wrong here.

I like the idea that God forgives me, so I decide that the CC got it right on this issue.

I don’t like the idea that I have to actually confess my sins to a priest, so I decide that the CC got it wrong here.

What is your frame of reference for where the CC got it right and wrong?
The almighty I, Me and Myself.

That’s a very, very treacherous paradigm, Sy. Treacherous indeed.

I must correct you on one thing. No not in my image. In what I understand GOD’s image to be following much prayer, study, contemplation, reflection and striving to understand when I spend time with God deep within my conscience. If those things are treacherous to you so be it. They’re not to me.

 

[Sy_Noe]

The protestant church says the same though and is in a lot cases more liberal than the Catholic church.
Not to offend,but what do you think personally about the protestant/pentecostal church?

You’re kidding. Protestants say Jesus loves us too?

 

[stewstew03]

I must correct you on one thing. No not in my image. In what I understand GOD’s image to be following much prayer, study, contemplation, reflection and striving to understand when I spend time with God deep within my conscience. If those things are treacherous to you so be it. They’re not to me.

Of course, ultimately, you conform God’s image to your image, yes?

 

[stewstew03]

…
Not to offend,but what do you think personally about the protestant/pentecostal church?

Irrelevant. Start another thread.

 

[Simoooon95]

You’re kidding. Protestants say Jesus loves us too?

Yes,hard to believe right ?

 

[Simoooon95]

Irrelevant. Start another thread.

Can I ask why a post of me was removed in that thread? A post where I stated a Protestant view on this. Is this not allowed?