What are you doing to help the Melkite Greek Catholics suffering in Palestine?

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And what does any of this have to do with requests of charity by a Catholic Archbishop to help those who have been affected by Israeli attacks?
Lemme explain it again, those people voted Hamas into power, they should be held accountable for enabling a terrorist organization. If they want my help, they need to rise up and speak out against Hamas, instead all they do is rail against the Israeli’s.
 
I have a neutral question:

Does anyone have any references of the Palestinian Christians condemning Palestinian terrorism against Israel?
 
I found a nice website for the **St. George Melkite Greek Catholic Church **in **Zababdeh, West Bank **should anyone feel the need to speak with a Melkite Greek Catholic priest to get the facts on what is the present situation for Christians in the area.

The priest for this church is Abouna Firas Boutros Khoury Diab, you can write to him at cure_zab@yahoo.com On the website you can find ways to help the local community and they have an “Adopt a Child” program. I think that this is a wonderful way to help.

stgeorgeinzababdeh.com/

Peace.
 
Lemme explain it again, those people voted Hamas into power, they should be held accountable for enabling a terrorist organization. If they want my help, they need to rise up and speak out against Hamas, instead all they do is rail against the Israeli’s.
So Hamas came into power because 100% of the people voted it into power? Is that what the polls said? Since you know so much about the situation, I’m wondering what your sources tell you about the poll results. Hope you respond to the question.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
There were NO Arabs in the Holy Land till the Muslim invasions of the 7th century.

Jews have been living in that land for 3700 years.
There have always been Arabs in the Holy Land…since before the time of Christ - Christ himself in his humanity is Arab…the language he spoke was Aramaic from which the Arabic language developed.

Jesus witnessed before and after his death and resurrection to the Arab people there who were both Jewish and non-Jewish - many became Christians. About 95% Jews who did not become Christian except about 5% of the Jews who remained in the Holy Land, scattered to various areas - Russia, Europe and Africa after the Temple’s destruction in 70 ad by the Romans.

The people who remained in the Holy Land were the Arab Christians (and some of the Romans until they moved their capitol to Byzantium changing it’s name to Constantinople around the mid to late 300’s).

When in the late 600’s early 700’s Muslims began invading the Holy Land, the Roman Catholic Pope began to disperse European Roman Catholic Soldiers to free the “Christian Arabs” from the Arab Muslims - this, after many crusades which ultimately failed and Christians began to become outnumbered by the Muslims…so Christians converting to Islam and the fact that Islam allows for men to have plural wives.

From the time of the Crusades on, there have been Roman Catholics in the Holy Land via soldiers intermarried with Arab Christians already there.

So prior to the European Jews (& now African and Russian, etc. Jews) coming to the Holy Land in 1947/1948 to establish a new country of Zionist Israel the population make up of Palestine aka the Holy Land was all Arab: Mostly Muslim, about 20 some odd % Christian and about 5% Jewish.

(Side note: It is interesting to note that one of the first people killed by the Zionist Israelis was an Arab Jew who had personally lived in Palestine all his life as had his ancestors back before the time of Jesus.)

To say that Arabs didn’t come until after the Jews is just simply the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life; however, it is also so sad that some people actually believe that without bothering to even look into the history. Very sad indeed.

Misinformation does nothing in way of helping the situation.

(side note: It is very interesting that although the Arab Jews who left the Holy Land in 70 ad have intermixed with the peoples of the places they went to that now, nearly 2,000 years later a person walking down the street would not recognize them as Arab - like for example in Africa, the Jews look just like the other Africans in the area; however, DNA testing of their priests proves they are of the Levitic blood line. There was a whole episode about it a few years ago on the History Channel. Absolutely amazing!)
 
I found a nice website for the **St. George Melkite Greek Catholic Church **in **Zababdeh, West Bank **should anyone feel the need to speak with a Melkite Greek Catholic priest to get the facts on what is the present situation for Christians in the area.

The priest for this church is Abouna Firas Boutros Khoury Diab, you can write to him at cure_zab@yahoo.com On the website you can find ways to help the local community and they have an “Adopt a Child” program. I think that this is a wonderful way to help.

stgeorgeinzababdeh.com/

Peace.
Thank you for sharing the information.

I hope it gets into the hands of those willing to help our Melkite brothers and sisters still living in Palestine.

I will share this site with everyone I know.
 
There have always been Arabs in the Holy Land…since before the time of Christ - Christ himself in his humanity is Arab…the language he spoke was Aramaic from which the Arabic language developed.

Jesus witnessed before and after his death and resurrection to the Arab people there who were both Jewish and non-Jewish - many became Christians. About 95% Jews who did not become Christian except about 5% of the Jews who remained in the Holy Land, scattered to various areas - Russia, Europe and Africa after the Temple’s destruction in 70 ad by the Romans.

The people who remained in the Holy Land were the Arab Christians (and some of the Romans until they moved their capitol to Byzantium changing it’s name to Constantinople around the mid to late 300’s).

When in the late 600’s early 700’s Muslims began invading the Holy Land, the Roman Catholic Pope began to disperse European Roman Catholic Soldiers to free the “Christian Arabs” from the Arab Muslims - this, after many crusades which ultimately failed and Christians began to become outnumbered by the Muslims…so Christians converting to Islam and the fact that Islam allows for men to have plural wives.

From the time of the Crusades on, there have been Roman Catholics in the Holy Land via soldiers intermarried with Arab Christians already there.

So prior to the European Jews (& now African and Russian, etc. Jews) coming to the Holy Land in 1947/1948 to establish a new country of Zionist Israel the population make up of Palestine aka the Holy Land was all Arab: Mostly Muslim, about 20 some odd % Christian and about 5% Jewish.

(Side note: It is interesting to note that one of the first people killed by the Zionist Israelis was an Arab Jew who had personally lived in Palestine all his life as had his ancestors back before the time of Jesus.)

To say that Arabs didn’t come until after the Jews is just simply the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life; however, it is also so sad that some people actually believe that without bothering to even look into the history. Very sad indeed.

Misinformation does nothing in way of helping the situation.

(side note: It is very interesting that although the Arab Jews who left the Holy Land in 70 ad have intermixed with the peoples of the places they went to that now, nearly 2,000 years later a person walking down the street would not recognize them as Arab - like for example in Africa, the Jews look just like the other Africans in the area; however, DNA testing of their priests proves they are of the Levitic blood line. There was a whole episode about it a few years ago on the History Channel. Absolutely amazing!)
There was no significant Arab presence in the Holy Land prior to muslim invasions of the 7th century. Now does that mean there were NONE, of course not, but the fact is the Jews have been the major presence, and continiously for 3700 years. That is a historical fact.

Many fled in the face of persecution, but they never totally left it.

In the history of the world there has never been Palestinian “state” that is relative new term born in the 1960s.

Because you use this term often- Zionist- I’d like for you to explain to me, how the Jews hope to expand and conqueor the Mid East.

Israel a land of 6 million people is squared off against the following countries and their populations-

Egypt 80 million
Jordan- 25 million
Syria-22 million

And we won’t even go into Iran’s population 70 miilion, or Saudi Arabia et al. You get the drift. Now how is Israel going to expand and occupy Arab land facing these numbers? They can’t. Zionism is a myth.
So prior to the European Jews (& now African and Russian, etc. Jews) coming to the Holy Land in 1947/1948 to establish a new country of Zionist Israel the population make up of Palestine aka the Holy Land was all Arab: Mostly Muslim, about 20 some odd % Christian and about 5% Jewish.
This is false. The Jews have been the majority of the population of Jerusalem since the 19th century. You don’t get more Holy Land than that.
So Hamas came into power because 100% of the people voted it into power? Is that what the polls said? Since you know so much about the situation, I’m wondering what your sources tell you about the poll results. Hope you respond to the question.
Now I don’t know the poll numbers and don’t care, all I can tell YOU its a fact Hamas was elected into power. By the will of the people, they have enabled a terroist organization. The Archbishop has not led his people to speak out against this atrocity, so I’m gonna assume the Catholics in Gaza are in agreement with the anti Jewish rhetoric, and as such I, and many other Americans wrote them off. I’m not gonna put up with a terroist and those that enable them of any flavor. And as terroists supporters they’ll have to endure the wrath of the IDF, without my sympathy.

A terroist is a terroist whether he’s Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or whatever. I define terroists anyone that targets schools kids, women, just for the heck of it, and Hamas has proven to be quite adept at that.

When the ArchBishop decides to use his power to condemn Hamas, I’ll take a look, but instead all he does is rail against Israel, and utters not one word when a rocket lands in a Jewish schoolyard. He has NO crediblility in my eyes, and most Americans and in fact I’d say he as alot of audacity to seek financial help from Americans who are currently engaged in a world wide war on terrorism.

I’ll be honest, I’m NOT sure where the money would go? To buy more rockets to shoot into schools? Vest for bombers? Who knows when it comes to Hamas and those that follow them.
From the time of the Crusades on, there have been Roman Catholics in the Holy Land via soldiers intermarried with Arab Christians already there.
I don’t care what religion these people profess to be m’am, if they enable terroists, and support their action against innocent people I’m not helping, and the lurkers out here can read this thread and make up their mind if they want to send money to these people or not. Kinda like fair and balanced. If you send money to Gaza to anyone that even *might be *connected Hamas is a bad thing in my book.

Your problem seems to be giving these terroists a pass because they might be Catholics in the mix?
 
There was no significant Arab presence in the Holy Land prior to muslim invasions of the 7th century. Now does that mean there were NONE, of course not, but the fact is the Jews have been the major presence, and continiously for 3700 years. That is a historical fact. ***Jews are not the major presence now and haven’t been the “major” presence since the at least 70 ad, if not before.

Many fled in the face of persecution, but they never totally left it. You are correct approximately 5 % of the total population of Palestine aka Holy Land were Jewish prior to the end of the WWII.

Israel a land of 6 million people is squared off against the following countries and their populations-

Egypt 80 million
Jordan- 25 million
Syria-22 million

And we won’t even go into Iran’s population 70 miilion, or Saudi Arabia et al. You get the drift. Now how is Israel going to expand and occupy Arab land facing these numbers? They can’t. Zionism is a myth.

Israel has been “occupying” Arab Palestinian land since 1947/1948.
Archbishop Elias Chacour (himself a 2nd class Israeli Citizen - he was one of the few Palestians who were able to obtain Israeli Citizenship - giving him a tad bit more freedom than other Palestinians) is only one member of his Christian Village (which had been Christian since Jesus first walked there and converted the people, his ancestors) who were, at gunpoint forced to leave their land and forbidden from re-entrance. A neighboring Christian Village was completely massacred by the Zionist Israelis and buried in a mass grave site.

If you want to know what Zionist is and why practicing Jews are completely against it, go through the past posts and visit the site suggested by our Jewish friend posted.

This is false. The Jews have been the majority of the population of Jerusalem since the 19th century. You don’t get more Holy Land than that.

They are currently the minority - at best only about a 1/3 of the current population.
Based on this and your past posts it is clear that you have a political agenda and have no concern for the Melkite Greek Catholics for whom this thread was started. That is okay, we are all touched in the heart by God to stand up for different causes.

If you want to promote IDF policy or systematically terrorizing Palestinians, including the Melkite Greek Catholics, my suggestion would be that you start your own thread in the Non-Catholic Forum as this Forum is specifically for Eastern Catholics which include the Melkite Greek Catholics.
This thread I started is to find out what other Eastern Catholics are doing to help our fellow Melkite Greek Catholics in Palestine to help promote and encourage the positive things that Abuna Chacour is doing to promote peace and to find out about others like him. I was happy to learn of the St. George Melkite Parish in Palestine which has the “Adopt a Child” program.

This thread is to find out what is being done positively, not a place for anti-Palestinian Christians to vent their hatred. Peace must begin in the hearts of each of us. I will pray for you to obtain the Peace of Christ.
 
I would once again appeal that those who truly have a concern for the Melkite Greek Catholic Church not let those who have NO CONCERN for our Church hijack the thread with their rants. I do not know if the forum has moderators, but there is no reason for us to get caught up with the anger of a few people who have no interest in the topic or the Melkite Church.

The work of Abouna Elias, the Melkite bishop of Galilee, is well known and widely respected. He has done and is doing marvelous work for the Palestinian people through the Mar Elias Educational Institutions and other projects (information about which can be found online with ease). People who are interested in helping the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, and all peoples who are suffering in Palestine are encouraged to contact…

Abouna Elias Chacour
Archbishop of Galilee
P. O. Box 102
Ibillin 30012
Galilee, Israel

if this is something that interests you, find out what you can do to help.

salaam.
 
Based on this and your past posts it is clear that you have a political agenda and have no concern for the Melkite Greek Catholics for whom this thread was started. That is okay, we are all touched in the heart by God to stand up for different causes.

If you want to promote IDF policy or systematically terrorizing Palestinians, including the Melkite Greek Catholics, my suggestion would be that you start your own thread in the Non-Catholic Forum as this Forum is specifically for Eastern Catholics which include the Melkite Greek Catholics.
This thread I started is to find out what other Eastern Catholics are doing to help our fellow Melkite Greek Catholics in Palestine to help promote and encourage the positive things that Abuna Chacour is doing to promote peace and to find out about others like him. I was happy to learn of the St. George Melkite Parish in Palestine which has the “Adopt a Child” program.

This thread is to find out what is being done positively, not a place for anti-Palestinian Christians to vent their hatred. Peace must begin in the hearts of each of us. I will pray for you to obtain the Peace of Christ.
I agree with you 1000000000000% If one sees that another poster is stuck in their own agenda and have no desire to listen to the other side then it is better to say your final peace, dust yourself off and move on. The ignore feature has become my new friend. 😛

Peace.
 
I would once again appeal that those who truly have a concern for the Melkite Greek Catholic Church not let those who have NO CONCERN for our Church hijack the thread with their rants. I do not know if the forum has moderators, but there is no reason for us to get caught up with the anger of a few people who have no interest in the topic or the Melkite Church.

The work of Abouna Elias, the Melkite bishop of Galilee, is well known and widely respected. He has done and is doing marvelous work for the Palestinian people through the Mar Elias Educational Institutions and other projects (information about which can be found online with ease). People who are interested in helping the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, and all peoples who are suffering in Palestine are encouraged to contact…

Abouna Elias Chacour
Archbishop of Galilee
P. O. Box 102
Ibillin 30012
Galilee, Israel

if this is something that interests you, find out what you can do to help.

salaam.
Thank you!

I also just discovered that we can place the rants of the people who do not care for Melkite Greek Catholics on an ignore list, which removes them completely from our view.

Everyone else may already know that, but I’m glad to find out!

I started this thread to find out what **positive **direction others are taking in helping our fellow Christians as I feel some what helpless as to what I can do as a struggling single mom to help.

I know I can pray, everyone can do that, and I do…but whatelse?

Those of us who have extra money can give support financially directly to the Melkite Catholic Churches in Palestine.

Those of us who can, can travel to Palesine to provide physical or medical help depending on our background. Or from what I heard on Catholic Radio (Immaculate Heart Radio) Abuna Chacour needs school teachers/volunteers.

I LOVE the Adopt a Child program at the St. George Melkite Church. It looks like you don’t have to have $ you can still do it! My daughter will love to get involved in this.

We can boycott the companies/products which help fund the systematic persecution of the Melkite Catholics - I found a list of these companies at: home.pacbell.net/halnet/Boycott%20Israeli%20Products%20Campaign.htm & bigcampaign.org/index.php?page=jews-for-boycotting-israeli-goods - Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods website.

I like the ideas already given on prior posts and wonder if anyone has any additional ideas of positive ways to support our Melkite Greek Catholic Palestinians?

God bless all here who care!
 
Now I don’t know the poll numbers and don’t care, all I can tell YOU its a fact Hamas was elected into power. By the will of the people, they have enabled a terroist organization. The Archbishop has not led his people to speak out against this atrocity, so I’m gonna assume the Catholics in Gaza are in agreement with the anti Jewish rhetoric, and as such I, and many other Americans wrote them off. I’m not gonna put up with a terroist and those that enable them of any flavor. And as terroists supporters they’ll have to endure the wrath of the IDF, without my sympathy.
I guess people in Western countries can sit on their high horses and make all these complaints without fear of retaliation. But Christians in Middle Eastern don’t have that same LUXURY.

Yeah, I’ve met people like you before. You’re the ones that complain: “They’re still alive aren’t they? That must mean they support the system in which they live! They should be dead if they really believe in freedom. Pope Pius XII didn’t do squat for the Jews. He should have martyred himself. That’s what a real hero should have done.” You’re quite the talker, sir. I guess living in America, you have that LUXURY that other people in totalitarian states don’t have.

All I can do is pray for you.

Oh, BTW, Hamas was voted into power by taking 76 out of the 132 seats in the legislature. I guess the ones who did NOT vote for Hamas were really just Hamas supporters anyway (according to you). Do a little reading sometime, sir. It’s a great medicine for ignorance.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
I’m just curious as to what everyone here is personally doing to assist our Catholic brothers and sisters in Palestine who are daily terrorized by the Israeli Army?
You consider the Israeli Army to be terrorists who are deliberately targeting Catholics? I’ve always thought it was in self-defense to the Palestinian attacks and suicide bombings.
Is anyone seeking to have Congress void the multi-millions of dollars it sends daily to aid the Iraeli Army in their cause of bulldozing Melkite Greek Catholic homes, killing Melkite Greek Catholic Christian Children in Bethlehem, refusing Melkite Catholics access to Health Care, etc. etc.?
You make it sound as if the Israeli Army’s goal and intention is to kill children. You honestly think they are targeting children, Catholic children in particular?

It is possible that some may not care if innocent children get killed, but is this something they claim kind of like an “eye for an eye”? We also know suicide bombers do not always discriminate.

To be fair, it is possible that many of those children were teenage “militants” trying to blow something or someone up or were somewhere they knew they shouldn’t be.
stop the Apartheid.
Admittedly, I do not know much about the history of the conflict. Maybe you can clarify. You do not think the suicide bombers and constant attacks justify segregation? It seems harsh, but if that is the main justification, I cannot say I blame them.

Why don’t the Israeli’s just kill them all in one big attack? Or are they trying to do it more discretely so they don’t stir the international community?
 
I guess people in Western countries can sit on their high horses and make all these complaints without fear of retaliation. But Christians in Middle Eastern don’t have that same LUXURY.

Yeah, I’ve met people like you before. You’re the ones that complain: “They’re still alive aren’t they? That must mean they support the system in which they live! They should be dead if they really believe in freedom. Pope Pius XII didn’t do squat for the Jews. He should have martyred himself. That’s what a real hero should have done.” You’re quite the talker, sir. I guess living in America, you have that LUXURY that other people in totalitarian states don’t have.

All I can do is pray for you.

Oh, BTW, Hamas was voted into power by taking 76 out of the 132 seats in the legislature. I guess the ones who did NOT vote for Hamas were really just Hamas supporters anyway (according to you). Do a little reading sometime, sir. It’s a great medicine for ignorance.

Blessings,
Marduk
Amen Marduk!!! Even if it seems a little harsh. Amen!!!
 
You consider the Israeli Army to be terrorists who are deliberately targeting Catholics? I’ve always thought it was in self-defense to the Palestinian attacks and suicide bombings.

Yes speak to any Palestinian Catholic Christian and they will tell you exactly what IDF is doing to their families. You can also go on You Tube and listen to former IDF Soldiers themselves talk about what is going on.

You make it sound as if the Israeli Army’s goal and intention is to kill children. You honestly think they are targeting children, Catholic children in particular?

If you look at the death rate with Palestinian Children (Christian and Muslim) you will find that often times they are killed by gunshot wounds to the head. IDF are trained to kill with a shot to the head and they, unlike International Law, consider someone to be a child only if they appear to be under age 12. There is a girl I remember because her name is similar to mine: Christina, she was 8 years old when she was killed the IDF shot at her entire family driving in their car in Bethlehem. Her family were not terrorists and they are Christians.

It is possible that some may not care if innocent children get killed, but is this something they claim kind of like an “eye for an eye”? We also know suicide bombers do not always discriminate.

You are correct suicide bombers are not discriminate and they are completely wrong in their methods (I should hope that is clear without my having to say so) of trying to obtain freedom from oppression. Innocent Palestinians are killed at a much higher rate from IDF and IDF also kills terrorists which is good; however substantially more innocent Palestinians are dying than “terrorists” - the IDF purposely are completely random in their attacks so as to always keep the Palestinians in fear…fear of dying, fear of being deported, fear of having their homes bulldozed, fear of having a wall built across their property line so they can no longer have access to their farm land or grazing land, fear that if they leave East Jeruselem to visit their parents in the West Bank (provided they can even get the permits required to do so) that they will never be let back into East Jeruselem (as has been the case for many families) etc., etc.

To be fair, it is possible that many of those children were teenage “militants” trying to blow something or someone up or were somewhere they knew they shouldn’t be.

Most of the children die in front of their own homes. That would certainly make you feel better if it were true that the children dying were actually all terrorists, but that is not the case - often times children die in child birth at a Check Point because the mother was not allowed to get to the hospital on the other side of the Check Point. I’d encourage you to look on line at the photographs of the Palestinian neighborhoods - you will notice that every single wall has holes in it from IDF artillary…children die in their homes because of the indiscriminate firing. When in the middle of the night the IDF comes and bulldozes someone’s home, the families asleep inside do not always wake up in time to get themselves and children out.

Admittedly, I do not know much about the history of the conflict. Maybe you can clarify. You do not think the suicide bombers and constant attacks justify segregation? It seems harsh, but if that is the main justification, I cannot say I blame them.

Most of the time the suicide bombers only succeed in killing themselves…it is pointless. Desperate people sometimes take terrible desperate measures which are clearly wrong. But with the Palestinian elderly, children etc. dying because they are prevented at gun point from entering an area which has a hospital for the medical care required to live just because that person is Palestinian is equally horrible.

Why don’t the Israeli’s just kill them all in one big attack? Or are they trying to do it more discretely so they don’t stir the international community?

I think you’ve hit it on the head. One former IDF Soldier I heard speaking on You Tube was Serving in the IDF during the attack on the U.S. on 911. His unit was told to bulldoze as many houses as they could as soon as IDF got word of 911 attacks - the reason they gave to them was, “Big Brother isn’t looking”.

When and if you should decide to do research on your own on this conflict, you may be shocked as I am that many of the terrible things which were committed against the Jews in WWII (my Grandpa fought in WWII to free the Jews and so we have lots of books and stories from him about what the Nazi’s did to the Jews) the Israeli Government and IDF are committing many of those same things against the Palestinians: Forcing them out of their homes and walling them into a small area, making them get permits to do normal daily functions, etc. It is really sad. Evil is not justified by evil.
Where there is hate we must sow love and peace. If nothing else, please pray.
 
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Christy74:
Could you please post which youtube videos you mean?

I’ve seen some from both sides of view, but haven’t come across any children being shot in the head, intentionally.

Thanks
 
You know what? I feel ashamed. I didn’t know about them. (This convert still has a lot to learn!)

I would like to send some financial aid. They also have my prayers!

Can you point me to good groups to contribute to?

Thank you and God bless you for informing me about our brethren in Palestine!

Johnny
The Catholic Near East Welfare Association is a papal charity that works in and around the Holy Land. Contributions can be made directly to projects, and those projects are listed by country.

cnewa.org/home-us.aspx

Worth noting, they have taken on and adopted several Orthodox Churches as well - helping the Greek Orthodox with equipment for schools, new roofing for churches, new heating systems in churches located in the mountains where it can and DOES get VERY cold during their winters in parts of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon.
 
Christy,

What do you think of the “Arab Peace Initiative” to end the Arab-Israeli conflict? The initiative obtained the unanimous consent of all members of the Arab League. Israel has welcomed the plan, but seems unwilling to give up East Jerusalem or accept some of the other concessions. It seems to offer some hope, but I am no expert on the issue.

The Israel-Palestine conflict has a long and complicated history. I do not know the full history and I’m not sure I ever will be able to completely understand it, but it seems that both sides can share some of the blame. I can see how both sides could sometimes take desperate actions that they may later regret or not.

As horrible as any abuses by the IDF and/or govt. might be,
I still fail to understand your very one-sided stance against Israel.
I cannot forget the regular rocket barrages into Israeli towns from the militant Hamas.
 
Christy,

What do you think of the “Arab Peace Initiative” to end the Arab-Israeli conflict? The initiative obtained the unanimous consent of all members of the Arab League. Israel has welcomed the plan, but seems unwilling to give up East Jerusalem or accept some of the other concessions. It seems to offer some hope, but I am no expert on the issue.

The Israel-Palestine conflict has a long and complicated history. I do not know the full history and I’m not sure I ever will be able to completely understand it, but it seems that both sides can share some of the blame. I can see how both sides could sometimes take desperate actions that they may later regret or not.

As horrible as any abuses by the IDF and/or govt. might be,
I still fail to understand your very one-sided stance against Israel.
I cannot forget the regular rocket barrages into Israeli towns from the militant Hamas.
From what I can gather, the Arab Peace Initiative was drafted in March of 2002 and has not been accepted by Israel to-date.

The same month it was drafted, March 2002, 10 children were tragically killed by desperate Palestinians turned suicide bomber and 30 children were tragically killed by Israel. In April 2002 1 child was tragically killed by Palestinian gunfire and 46 children were tragically killed by Israel. Let’s move to April 2008 No Israeli children were killed but 22 Palestinian children were killed by Israel. May 2008 No Israeli children were killed but 5 Palestinian children were killed by Israel. Now these are the children, the most innocent of all. As of June 26, 2008 this year alone 6 Israeli children have been killed & 69 Palestinian children have been killed. Through these awful statistics, it is clear who the agressor is. I hope all will mourn the deaths of each child on both sides of the on-going conflict. Their names and date of deaths are listed on: www.rememberthesechildren.org. Please honor them and pray for them and the heart-broken families left behind. Please be motivated to help bring peace in anyway positive way you can.

I am all for anything which ends the daily violence against our Palestinian Christian brothers and sisters. I certainly hope & pray that the decision makers in Israel will open their hearts to God and accept any offer of peace.

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I’ve seen some from both sides of view, but haven’t come across any children being shot in the head, intentionally.

Thanks
I’ve never heard of anyone being shot in the head "un"intentially. A head, as compared to rest of the body, is an extremely small target and it is very hard to hit someone in the head…you have to train and be very good at it or be very up close and personal to not miss.

I have been at the side of a 24 year old young man while he was dying of a shot gun wound in his head. Seeing his brain matter spewed out on the dirt by the trash can. Watching as the area around the hole the size of a quarter in the back of his head, the entry point, swelled up to appear like a volcano. Listening the screams of his pregnant wife beside me while we waited for an ambulance.

This is something not to make light of. This is something very real, very horrible. Thank God you are unable to find the images on You Tube and I thank God I’ve never seen them on there either. The one time in person is more than enough for me!

I have heard people on You Tube talking about what they have personally witnessed in regards to the Palestinian Children who are shot in the head and I have read the testimony of this happening in the back of Abuna Elias Chacour’s book: Blood Brothers, etc.

I have no wish for you or anyone else to witness something so horrible.

May God bring us His Peace.
 
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