What are your ideas for the LGBT person's vocation in the Church?

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The way you commented on some of my recommendations proves that there’s a bigger perspective missing. And that perspective is that (1) there are certain challenges often faced by LGBT Catholics as a group – that is, gay Catholics have unique challenges and experiences in a Catholic context, and (2) Much more needs to be done so that LGBT persons feel welcome in Catholic Churches.

Or do you think that LGBT persons readily go to Catholic churches? Do you see a list of gay persons entering the Catholic Church? I don’t.
 
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The question is how can you and I serve others…and - hint - it doesn’t have to be thinly veiled…more sex stuff.
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That can actually be surprisingly hard as a single person. A lot of times the message I get:

(1) You can’t do anything that might involve being alone with anyone.
(2) Many service opportunities are focused around schools and want parent volunteers
(3) Most other opportunities occur when people who have full time jobs are working
 
It doesn’t need to be hard at all.

Teach CCD. You can take a safe environment class and cleared to be with children.
Find the Rosary group to pray with
Music
Usher
Reader
Respect Life commitee is always looking for someone.
Scripture studies
Mens formation (or Womens formation)
Hospital visits with the Eucharist

What I recommend to people is to grab a bulletin…close your eyes…flip to any page…put your index finger down and go do that thing for 3 months.
 
Catholics that support same-sex rights in the terms of civil union and marriage aren’t supposed to do that.
 
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Quite right.

It would be like directly supporting an abortion group, “material cooperation” with evil.
 
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Right but my point to @Thorolfr was, even if it’s misguided compassion, Catholics are still compassionate. We have to remember that it’s easy for non-Catholics to think badly of Catholics if they experience mean-spirited comments online, just as I suppose it would be for Catholics to think badly of Lutherans or Muslims or Atheists, even if we read only one or two mean-spirited comments online.

Besides, I acknowledged that such views weren’t orthodox, as I pointed out that many of the Catholics who are pro-LGBT rights are usually not well-catechized. And then I also pointed out orthodox persons like Bishop Barron and Pope Francis who, even while maintaining traditional church teaching, are still compassionate and would probably agree (just based on how they talk, their pastoral approach, etc.) with this thread’s question: That we need to find ways to welcome LGBT Christians, to LISTEN to them, and to foster vocations for them.
 
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catholic1seeks said:
) there are certain challenges often faced by LGBT Catholics as a group – that is, gay Catholics have unique challenges and experiences in a Catholic context, and (2) Much more needs to be done so that LGBT persons feel welcome in Catholic Churches.
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Our hands are all alike to get a brush and paint a bathroom or fold clothes,or knit little socks or carry some food for an elderly .
There are so many persons that in the worst of their personal moments find room for those other persons who are in worse shape still,that it is an experience of God difficult to convey.
And as we paint ,we talk,and as we knit ,we can pray.
There is a lot to do where our hands are all alike.
Help comes from above,we have to trust and believe it. As we walk the walk.
It is really a battle field hospital…We are loved and needed as we are,if only to pick some bandage and wrap somebody else’ wound…
And we heal somehow in turn, suffering is a mystery indeed.
 
Right-o. And the “friends blessing” idea is rather disingenuous. We all know what the next demand will be once there are special blessings for same-sex SSA “friends.”
We’ve seen the strategy of incremental demands play out in secular society. The strategy being attempted in the Church is pretty much the same, tactic by tactic.
 
It would be nice to have a religious order of sorts, but it can’t be of one gender.
 
Nope.

Church had friend blessings before.

It can have them again.

Again, Eve Tushnet.

 
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Once again, the vocation for Catholics with SSA is the same as for heterosexual, single Catholics. You need stop dissenting.
 
I don’t think anyone has been called a heretic, but maybe I missed it in my ignorance.
 
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I’d say that the Courage Apostolate should have more chapters. But that is just my opinion…
 
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Laughable, really. Anyone familiar with Eve Tushnet will know that her stream of thought is far from unorthodox.

She is a celibate lesbian Catholic.

And you’re offering a straw man. I’m not “starting here,” because I know what the church teachings. Folk on CAF like to shout it often, and it’s primarily the only thing I’ve heard from Catholic quarters in the last 10 years or so: “Gay sex is sinful,” we get it.

Has nothing to do with this thread.
 
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And you’re offering a straw man. I’m not “starting here,” because I know what the church teachings. Folk on CAF like to shout it often, and it’s primarily the only thing I’ve heard from Catholic quarters in the last 10 years or so: “Gay sex is sinful,” we get it.
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And he is also demonstrating the very fact he denies exists. He isn’t able to take in the message from a celibate lesbian Catholic. What more does he want from her? She is doing exactly what the Church asks of her, and yet, he mocks her openly here.
 
I thought some people here where trying to help and were Catholic.
 
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