What are your ideas for the LGBT person's vocation in the Church?

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And you’re allowed to have that opinion!

Not really sure what that has to do with posting this thread.

People post lots of things less significant than abortion on CAF all the time, like art, school, etc…
 
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Edward_H said:
Teach CCD. You can take a safe environment class and cleared to be with children.
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Must be available during school hours to do this. Also difficult if anyone knows about SSA because of the extra suspicion - many Catholics still believe SSA means abuse.
Find the Rosary group to pray with
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This also usually occurs during work hours, or immediately as they are ending.
Music
Usher
Reader
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Meetings are often during work hours.
Respect Life commitee is always looking for someone.
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Never seen this one, except as family stuff
Scripture studies
Mens formation (or Womens formation)
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For women, exclusively focuses on formation as a wife and mother.
Hospital visits with the Eucharist
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Also requires availability during working hours.
 
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Well if you know what the Church teachings are, then accept them and stop complaining. If you go into a Catholic parish and live by your vocation to celibate chastity, you won’t have any problem with others. Bear your cross, like everyone else. Keep your sexual orientation to yourself and offer your frustrations up to God. it’s not all about you–its about Jesus Christ.
And you might look for a spiritual director.
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I think what a lot of us are saying is this is very much not true. Simply by being perpetually single you often will have an issue.

Also, for anyone who is a convert, “keep your sexual orientation to yourself” may not be possible.
 
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the topic of Catholics with SSA and their discontents with the Church is rather insignificant
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That is far from it. The topic is really Catholics with SSA and their wish to be in the Church but find it difficult in some ways to carry this cross
 
If I could re-phrase the thread title, it would be:

What are your ideas to foster vocation to love and form meaningful relationships outside of marriage, particularly with the needs and struggles of gay people in mind?

Extra material: Especially considering that (1) in the Catholic Church, LGBT people are not to form romantic relationships, which they often would rather have, anyway, and (2) marriage and romantic relationships are the primary kind of stable relationships focused on in the Church and the Western world.
 
I wish I had a great idea for vocations for LGBT individuals in the church . It seems there are more doors shut than there are open. I find this to be a tragedy as SSA individuals have God given gifts (like eveybody) that the world needs desperately. I think with so many closed doors… it’s no wonder a lot of SSA individuals would be perplexed trying to live their lives as Catholics.
 
… it’s no wonder a lot of SSA individuals would be perplexed trying to live their lives as Catholics.
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And that my friend is the foundation of this thread. And I wish more people would recognize it. Thanks for being patient and understanding.
 
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It is you who are the patient one my friend. The cross that you are being asked to bear, is one that “seems unfair”. I believe, with all my heart, that the crosses that SSA individuals are being asked to bear are so close to the cross of Christ… it’s the only thing that gives me consolation to think about.
 
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Yes,she is honest sharing her struggle.And one has to be on a stage,poor thing,talking about sth so personal as our own struggles…
Let me listen to her again,she lost me a bit in her reasoning with the Bible characters. Like she is reasoning it out in a way that is difficult for me.
Give me some time that I finish cooking and listen to her again. So that I pay proper attention you are asking for.
 
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Let me listen to her again,she lost me a bit in her reasoning with the Bible characters.
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I think i know what you are referring to.

She mentions Bible characters like Jesus and John to express that same-sex but NON-sexual and NON-romantic love is endorsed in Scripture, and it used to be far more emphasized in church history.

18th century onward seemed to change this view of friendship.
 
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Thank you for saying those kind works!

I’m hardly at that stage. I fail and waver often. But I do want to figure a way forward.
 
Plus English ,plus one of our sons listening to music a bit loud.
Yes,it is that part and when she talks about friends and community. I didn’t t quite grasp it.
I’ ll return here.
 
catholic1seeks said:
Extra material: Especially considering that (1) in the Catholic Church, LGBT people are not to form romantic relationships, which they often would rather have, anyway, and (2) marriage and romantic relationships are the primary kind of stable relationships focused on in the Church and the Western world.
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I think this is the important bit. We in the western world are often focused on marriage and family as pretty much the only important relationship in a person’s life. But most people don’t do well with no one to talk to or confide in.

I know that this affects others who don’t fit the traditional family model as well. I’ve heard much the same from those who are separated from their spouses, perhaps without hope of either reconciliation or annulment. Some as well from those who are married to non-Catholic or to fallen away spouses who are hostile to the faith.
 
It’s a tragedy that more people don’t see how immense the cross of an SSA person, trying to be faithful to Catholic teaching, actually is. If Marriage is out of the question and priesthood is… what a cross to be told you cannot love a person you want to or that you can’t try to love Christ as a priest. It literally wounds me thinking about it.
 
If people actually thought about how immense that actually is… being told you can’t love or can’t live a certain way… that some vocations are closed to you… they would surely cry
 
What part?

People with deep rooted homosexual tendencies are denied admittance to seminaries
 
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