What are your thoughts about protestants claiming that Catholicism forged history?

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Here’s a thought – it represents BOTH Mary and Israel. It’s been theorized by Church fathers throughout the ages.

Scripture is often layered like an onion.

And our interpretations are often wrong and ALWAYS very much fallible. 😜

Mary’s birth pains occurred in Jesus lifetime – Luke 2:35

With Revelation, it is a book full of symbolism. So this is an acceptable exegesis.
 
Benny12 said:
Not even going to read it.

Clearly says Stephen was full of grace
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@benny12, as you know, English was not the original language of the Holy Scriptures.

Question:​

Was Mary the only one who was “full of grace”? Or were Jesus (John 1:14) and Stephen (Acts 6:8) also full of grace?

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It is true that both Jesus and Stephen are said to be “full of grace” in the English translations. However, the Greek phrase that is used for Jesus and Stephen is pleres charitos, whereas the Greek word used with reference to Mary is kecharitomene .

Being a simple adjective, pleres charitos has a different connotation than kecharitomene in that it suggests a completion of grace in the present moment. In the case of Stephen, God filled him with grace at the moment to prepare him for martyrdom. For Jesus, John is emphasizing that Jesus was full of grace at the moment of the Incarnation. He tells us that Jesus remains full of grace later in verse sixteen: “And from his fullness have we all received, grace upon grace.”

Kecharitomene , however, is a perfect passive participle (a verbal adjective). Like pleres charitos, it suggests that Mary is in a completed state of grace at the moment Gabriel approaches her. But unlike pleres charitos , it is a completed and ongoing state in the present that is the result of a past action.

Source: Only One Full of Grace? | Catholic Answers
 
I kind of figured he might have a short shelf life unless he toned it down a bit and showed more respect towards other posters.

Hopefully he will learn and come back with a more courteous attitude because I personally think he had some good questions if they had been asked with more charity and with a sincere desire to learn the Catholic position on the issues he brought up.
 
Tommy999 said:
I kind of figured he might have a short shelf life unless he toned it down a bit and showed more respect towards other posters.

Hopefully he will learn and come back with a more courteous attitude because I personally think he had some good questions if they had been asked with more charity and with a sincere desire to learn the Catholic position on the issues he brought up.
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@Tommy999, agree. I enjoy interacting with both the Catholics and non-Catholics. I’m glad for the non-Catholics who are on this forum.
 
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