What are your thoughts on women dressing modestly?

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Tis_Bearself said:
I made the comment on the other thread that if soldiers were that undisciplined about their drives, then the enemy could win wars by simply sending a bunch of naked lady dancers into our ranks.
This was dismissed as me being ridiculous.
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Actually it isn’t.

FWIW, while not exactly on point, (or on point here at all), during the American Revolution it occurred to the Americans to have German towns in Pennsylvania send out their young women with pies for Hessian soldiers when they marched through German towns as an inducement to desertion. Hessians were conscripted for life and the sight of pretty German speaking girls in fact did work as an inducement to desertion.

During the Mexican War big crowds of American soldiers gathered in the early stages of the war on the American side of the Rio Grande to watch Mexican women, including a lot of young Mexican women, bathe in the river. As a fair percentage of US troops were Catholic Irish and Germans, it soon occurred to the Mexican forces to order that border towns be friendly to them when they crossed the river to attend Mass. The combined impact of that, and anti Catholic bigotry in the U.S. Army lead to the highest desertion rate of any American war.
 
Yeoman said:
As one of the few Catholic girls her age she’s probably be highly sought after by the Catholic men the same age around here, but her unusual dress will likely deter that.
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Maybe she’s not interested in attracting their attention. For all you know, she could have committed herself to the Lord and wants to keep men from looking at her.

Or maybe she is only interested in attracting the type of Catholic man who would understand, accept and agree with her opinion on clothing.

I can see the conflict in dressing modestly but in so doing standing out more than you would if you wore something more ordinary. I can even see not wanting Catholicism to be associated with the image of “the Duggars”. But when you start being concerned about whether Catholic men would be interested in some girl who’s not a member of your family and is not violating any church teachings with her clothing, you’re really minding somebody else’s business.
 
This is gross, tweedlealice. If modesty protected people from getting raped, then pedophilia and elder abuse would be virtually non-existent. Also, if a man is willing to rape a woman in the first place, do you really think he’s going to change his mind just because she’s not showing any cleavage?

Stop letting men off the hook. It’s really not that hard to refrain from raping people.
 
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True.

And then you’ve got the women who insist that looking IS rape.
 
MonteRCMS said:
True.

And then you’ve got the women who insist that looking IS rape.
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Is that really a thing, or are we just jumping straight to strawmen? Speaking as someone who personally knows quite a few rape/pedophilia survivors, comments like that are glib and unhelpful at best (you probably didn’t intend it to come across that way, but that’s how it sounds).
 
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MonteRCMS said:
I agree with you but there are some women who use extreme language.
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Leering can make women uncomfortable, and there’s nothing wrong with expressing that discomfort. I have yet to come across even one woman who claims that looking constitutes sexual assault, though.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
Leering can make women uncomfortable, and there’s nothing wrong with expressing that discomfort. I have yet to come across even one woman who claims that looking constitutes sexual assault, though.
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Yeah. And there’s looking and there’s looking. We know guys notice, but there’s a big difference between a guy who notices, and, say, the guy who turned half his body around to stare at my behind as I was walking away.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
There’s also still a school of thought that men, especially young men, can’t control their sex drives once they are triggered. I just had this discussion on some other thread talking about women in the military. Someone contended that even though we can train male soldiers to control their eating, drinking, sleeping, exercise habits, and make them observe strict discipline in all these areas of their life, in his opinion it is impossible to train them to control their sex drives if there is a female soldier in their barracks. If you think like this, then it’s a short step to viewing a woman in an immodest outfit as responsible at least in part for men’s behavior.
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Yup, that’s exactly what a lot of us ran into. Ironically I think it can actually lead to women putting themselves in more dangerous situations. Because you can’t reasonably avoid being alone with a man in a situation where he could assault you your entire life, especially if you want to marry one. If you’ve been taught that it’s not possible for men to control their sex drives, your red flags don’t go off when one of them actually shows signs of being out of control.
 
I guarantee you, those women are not the ones who have been raped; they know the difference, and will not use the word lightly. Rape is an act of extreme disrespect, even hatred, towards women. Therefore, sometimes those women who dress extremely modestly become targets of rapists. Then, there are the men who will exploit the vulnerabilities of a woman who has had too much to drink. In fact, alcohol has more to do about it than the way a woman dresses. As a kindly reservation priest once advised me.
 
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alice24 said:
alcohol has more to do about it than the way a woman dresses.

and even alcohol can only reveal what is already there. No loving, respectful man will turn to a rapist after an alcohol excess.
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which is, and this may sound strange, why I prefer seeing people drunk (only those who use to drink) before they become close friends.
 
I think both sexes should dress modesty. I have no problem dressing modestly (I am a woman) and don’t think that restricts me to just skirts/dresses. It is far to cold to wear only dresses/skirts for me as I am from a warm climate but living in a cold one and I can’t seem to acclimatise. I’d love to wear skirts all the time but would not be able to fit enough stockings or leggings underneath to cope, lol, already wear a few layers of trousers. In the summer, yes skirts. I don’t think you need a from ‘here to there’ code myself, I just wear what feels right. I also watch that things aren’t too tight or see through or flimsy. It’s also about wearing appropriate clothing for appropriate places or things. Somehow, I just know, I’d guess my parents taught me, God bless them. I do go to the beach though and swim in the sea but you can even use modesty for a bathing suit, I think anyway. I don’t find I look frumpy, though what do I know my best friend is 82 and she likes my clothing and I think that’s a great compliment!
Maybe you should try Vintage style dresses/skirts? as they are mostly just below the knee, full skirted and very fashionable People would probably just think you were setting your own style.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
There’s also still a school of thought that men, especially young men, can’t control their sex drives once they are triggered. I just had this discussion on some other thread talking about women in the military. Someone contended that even though we can train male soldiers to control their eating, drinking, sleeping, exercise habits, and make them observe strict discipline in all these areas of their life, in his opinion it is impossible to train them to control their sex drives if there is a female soldier in their barracks.
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Then he is very mistaken.
 
I don’t quite get it myself. Maybe it’s because I love shopping, but I see modest, stylish clothing practically everywhere. I don’t know where people are looking that they think everything is too revealing.
 
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