What can we do about the shootings?

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You can plink with those guns I agree. That’s a ton of firepower with all the assaults these days. You didn’t see all of these a generation ago. The police need to purchase military battle wagons to take these people down. People are good 99% but mass shootings happen it seems every week. We had a dozen killed in my peaceful town.
 
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Until the nation brings God back into it’s laws and culture, our nation will remain under the heel of Freemasonic “liberty” and people will continue to commit evil agianst one another.
 
So just do nothing, because you don’t like the arguments for trying to do something?
Your solution…do nothing?
 
Sometimes “something” is worse than nothing. Just because someone has an idea doesn’t mean it is good.
 
But how can we know if something is not a good idea, unless we try it?
The NRA and other pro-gun, any gun, no restrictions advocates do not believe than any laws or restrictions will help. The slippery slope theory.
Why not try to limit gun sales to people who might contemplate a shooting like at Dayton or El Paso. We could see if if makes thing better. If it does not, we could always change the rule back to what it was before.
Doing nothing obviously is not accomplishing anything.
Thoughts and prayers are not enough. We need action.
 
we can do not much. Maybe some charity program can help ease this problem
 
One problem a lot of people may not be aware of is that its extremely difficult nowadays to force a mentally ill person to get treatment. It used to be easier but laws changed out of compassion, fear, and a lack of knowledge.

I say this as a bipolar person who’s been hospitalized before. I’ve also been close to people who desperately needed care and couldn’t consent to it because they couldn’t think clearly.

Usually a person has to directly admit to a doctor that they’re going to kill themselves or someone else to get held for 72 hours against their will in a treatment center. Occasionally a very aggressive psychotic person can be held, but often they’re just arrested. Getting even a 72 hour hold is very very very difficult to accomplish & even then usually isn’t enough care for a severe chronic condition that inhibits rational thought & impulse control.

The way these laws have changed isn’t the kindness it seems. It leaves people to spend their entire lives in chaos and often homeless when medication could give them freedom. Even institutionalization for the very severe is a huge kindness compared to a life of fear danger and homelessness.

Usually its the patient & their families that suffers the most, but occasionally untreated mental illness ends up in mass shootings.

None of this is a kindness.
 
The thing is, mentally ill individuals are more less likely to commit a murder. The El Paso shooting, specifically, was motivated by the hate towards Hispanic individuals living in the States.
However the media continues to showcase mentally ill individuals as such, as this is causing a really, really huge stigma.

However, we seriously need to implement mental health services for the survivors or the surviving families of the victims. I have C-PTSD, a form of post-traumatic stress from my childhood years with long-term abuse at my elementary school. Violence frightens me as it only reminds me of what teachers did to me.
Trauma is a really horrible thing to live with.
 
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Why not try to limit gun sales to people who might contemplate a shooting like at Dayton or El Paso.
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They do try to do that, however, there is no actual method of doing that successfully that doesn’t impinge on the rights of the overwhelming majority who are completely law abiding. Short of precognition, crime, much like the poor, will always be with us.
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If it does not, we could always change the rule back to what it was before.
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The legislative system has never operated in such a way and the is no reason to think that will change.
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Doing nothing obviously is not accomplishing anything.
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Sometimes there is no cure. But, assuming there is, it is not necessary to try all the obviously bad options until someone comes up with a good one.
 
I agree with father that it is a symptom of our culture and not a consequence of the existence of the weapons. If you want to stop gun violence evangelization is the best cure.
 
I’m not from the US so I’m not going to comment on your firearms regulations, but I think there are a few things you could do that might help reduce mass shootings, particularly in schools.

The typical “active shooter” is more similar to a serial killer than most people realise, watching for stressors and triggers related to serial killers, particularly the fact that those people drop hints before they start killing might help prevent a problem before it starts.

The second and I think more useful would be to teach boys (statistically most shooters are male) safe coping strategies. Too many boys decide to take their pain out on others and this is causing major issues.

A final thing is break the ridiculous notion of the gun being the ultimate symbol of masculinity. It looks completely pathetic from the outside.
 
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