What causes the rich to abuse the poor?

[SamH]

Actually, you’re wrong on both counts. People can eat at the dollar menu at McD’s for three bucks a serving. It’s hard to find that low of a cost for any meal out-of-pocket.

Wow, just wow. You honestly think it is cheaper to pay some one to prepare your food for you than to prepare it for yourself? I can’t afford to take my children to McD’s and order off the dollar menu.

business.time.com/2011/09/26/news-flash-a-healthy-home-cooked-meal-costs-less-than-fast-food/

I would ask you to back your claims with something - but I know better.

 

[Lochias]

Wow, just wow. You honestly think it is cheaper to pay some one to prepare your food for you than to prepare it for yourself? I can’t afford to take my children to McD’s and order off the dollar menu.

Run the math sometime. 3 dollars a person for a meal is not expensive. It’s on par with just about anything you could buy and prepare in terms of a meal that included main dish, side and drink.

 

[SamH]

Run the math sometime. 3 dollars a person for a meal is not expensive. It’s on par with just about anything you could buy and prepare in terms of a meal that included main dish, side and drink.

Run the math? Please show me the math the supports your claim.

Ham sandwich instead of a burger:

Loaf of $2.20
1/3 pound of deli ham 2.99
total price 5.19 - good for 8 meals at least - .65 per meal.

Drink
128 fluid Oz of milk - 3.45
12 oz drink per meal .33 per meal

Do the math.

 

[Lochias]

Run the math? Please show me the math the supports your claim.

Ham sandwich instead of a burger:

Loaf of $2.20
1/3 pound of deli ham 2.99
total price 5.19 - good for 8 meals at least - .65 per meal.

Do the math.

One dry ham sandwich for a meal? How is that balanced and healthy?

EDIT: Do you use condiments? Do you have a side, like salad or chips? Do you drink anything besides water?

 

[SamH]

One dry ham sandwich for a meal? How is that balanced and healthy?

EDIT: Do you use condiments? Do you have a side, like salad or chips? Do you drink anything besides water?

Drink
128 fluid Oz of milk - 3.45
12 oz drink per meal .33 per meal

Still less than a dollar per meal for main and drink - sides are even less.

Do the math. Did you read any of the links?

 

[Lochias]

Drink
128 fluid Oz of milk - 3.45
12 oz drink per meal .33 per meal

Still less than a dollar per meal for main and drink - sides are even less.

Do the math. Did you read any of the links?

So, a dry ham sandwich and a glass of milk. That’s balanced and healthy?

EDIT: Your link assumes that a family of four spends 5 or 6 bucks each at McDonald’s to eat. We’ve never spent that much at a fast food restaurant.

 

[SamH]

So, a dry ham sandwich and a glass of milk. That’s balanced and healthy?

EDIT: Your link assumes that a family of four spends 5 or 6 bucks at McDonald’s to eat. We’ve never spent that much at a fast food restaurant.

You think ordering off the dollar menu at McDs is healthy? You have access to the internet - use it for something useful. :coffeeread:

 

[Lochias]

You think ordering off the dollar menu at McDs is healthy? You have access to the internet - use it for something useful. :coffeeread:

Did I say it was healthy? Stop putting words in my mouth, Sam. I -do- think it’s ironic that a McD’s meal of a burger, small fries and milk has more vegetable servings than what you posted as an example.

Also, I don’t appreciate your tone. I’ve adjusted for mine in the past with conversations with you, and I’d appreciate the same in return.

 

[Jozefo]

You think ordering off the dollar menu at McDs is healthy? You have access to the internet - use it for something useful. :coffeeread:

Have either one of you see that “documentary” Super Size Me? I put it in quotes because it’s not really a balanced documentary, although I think the facts as they were presented in the movie were true.

Anyway, the guy lived exclusively on McD food for a month or so, and it ended up making him sick.

 

[Lochias]

Have either one of you see that “documentary” Super Size? I put it in quotes because it’s not really a balanced documentary, although I think the facts as they were presented in the movie were true.

Anyway, the guy lived exclusively on McD food for a month or so, and it ended up making him sick.

There’s some concern that the guy wasn’t honest with all of his numbers, but I don’t think anyone here has claimed that McDonald’s is healthy food.

 

[SamH]

Did I say it was healthy? Stop putting words in my mouth, Sam. I -do- think it’s ironic that a McD’s meal of a burger, small fries and milk has more vegetable servings than what you posted as an example.

Also, I don’t appreciate your tone. I’ve adjusted for mine in the past with conversations with you, and I’d appreciate the same in return.

Still waiting for your proof.

I’ll probably be waiting for a while won’t I?

 

[Jozefo]

There’s some concern that the guy wasn’t honest with all of his numbers, but I don’t think anyone here has claimed that McDonald’s is healthy food.

I agree. But he did gain weight and experience some real problems. I wasn’t trying to imply anyone was saying it was healthy. Just making conversation.

Also, there’s a discount super market in my area that I can’t remember its name right n.ow (oldtimers disease) that publishes a little tract on how to feed a family of four on $3. It can be done, but it takes real work figuring out how to do it, and the menu choices are severly limited.

I’ll keep trying to remember the name of that store. When I do, I’ll be able to find the tract, and I’ll post it.

 

[Ohana]

Responding to the question: Ignorance, greed, empathy deficit.

 

[Lochias]

Still waiting for your proof.

I’ll probably be waiting for a while won’t I?

There are many meals that hover around the same price that could be cooked at home; the problem you don’t seem to grasp is that all of those ingredients need to be bought in bulk before the savings begin. Many families, myself included, cannot afford the larger out-of-pocket cost for all of the ingredients for the food. I notice that many dishes involve chicken breasts, which are prohibitively expensive all on their own.

It’s getting hard to keep conversing with you, Sam; you’re being belligerent and downright mean. I’ll ask you one more time to stop.

 

[Lochias]

I agree. But he did gain weight and experience some real problems. I wasn’t trying to imply anyone was saying it was healthy. Just making conversation.

Also, there’s a discount super market in my area that I can’t remember its name right n.ow (oldtimers disease) that publishes a little tract on how to feed a family of four on $3. It can be done, but it takes real work figuring out how to do it, and the menu choices are severly limited.

I’ll keep trying to remember the name of that store. When I do, I’ll be able to find the tract, and I’ll post it.

Cool. A discount supermarket would be a wonderful thing to have around, indeed.

 

[SamH]

Have either one of you see that “documentary” Super Size Me? I put it in quotes because it’s not really a balanced documentary, although I think the facts as they were presented in the movie were true.

Anyway, the guy lived exclusively on McD food for a month or so, and it ended up making him sick.

I’ve seen it. The guy did “over do it” on portion size. But eating that much food with out the excerise to match is where the issue is. Ever read how many calories Michael Phelps takes in while training - 10,000 to 12,000 per day. My recommended daily calorie intake is 2200. Typical meal from McDonalds has from 900 to 1500 calories.

But I was looking at the cost of the meals vs making them at home. I’ve never encountered someone that actually thought it was cheaper to eat out.

 

[SamH]

There are many meals that hover around the same price that could be cooked at home; the problem you don’t seem to grasp is that all of those ingredients need to be bought in bulk before the savings begin. Many families, myself included, cannot afford the larger out-of-pocket cost for all of the ingredients for the food. I notice that many dishes involve chicken breasts, which are prohibitively expensive all on their own.

It’s getting hard to keep conversing with you, Sam; you’re being belligerent and downright mean. I’ll ask you one more time to stop.

So you have nothing to support your claim.

 

[Jozefo]

Grocery Outlet! groceryoutlet.com/default/bargainistablog/09-09-14/Feed_your_Family_on_3_a_Day.aspx

Apparently they’ve withdrawn the brochure, and that link is from 2009. But anyway, even if it’s $4 today, it’s still pretty cheap. I remember it broke down menu items into categories, so there were a few different choices. And all the choices were canned food and pasta.

But the good thing about it was the meals were balanced. Not the healthiest food, but not that bad either. I’m wishing I had kept the printed brochure, because it was really good.

 

[Lochias]

So you have nothing to support your claim.

There’s noting to refute it, either. For a family of three, three bucks a piece is what can buy something relatively varied and vegetable-y. I do not consider a dry ham sandwich and a glass of milk an adequate meal for an adult.

 

[SamH]

I Also, there’s a discount super market in my area that I can’t remember its name right n.ow (oldtimers disease) that publishes a little tract on how to feed a family of four on $3. It can be done, but it takes real work figuring out how to do it, and the menu choices are severly limited.

I’ll keep trying to remember the name of that store. When I do, I’ll be able to find the tract, and I’ll post it.

We feed a family of 6 on about $35 a day. That’s with a very big menu with everything from steak to chicken to baked cookies and no real attempt to eat on the cheap - but preparing the meals at home and adapting the portion size there is very little waste. On Monday evenings my wife takes the kids through the drive through because of all the activities and she doesn’t have the time to cook. Her and the 4 children usually run about $25 for a single meal - that doesn’t include me. I get left overs when I get home.