What constitutes a human being?

[Betterave]

Originally Posted by Betterave
There’s obviously a lot you could know, and probably even more that could stand to learn. You probably think, as a lawyer, that ‘legal’ can only mean made up by a lawyer or enacted by a legislator, or enshrined in a legal code that is studied by lawyers and interpreted by judges (all terms being understood in the usual narrow jurisprudential senses). Hate to disillusion you, but that’s not the case

Lots of words to say very little.
PVS is not a legal term.
Insanity is a legal term, not a medical term.
PVS is a medical term, not a legal term.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
PVS is not a term of art for the legal profession.

Obviously you’re proud of being a lawyer and I’m sure your mother, or someone or other (hopefully), is proud of you too. But, all the same, ‘the legal profession’ does not have a superior legislative function whereby it and it alone defines and circumscribes the proper use of the term ‘legal.’ I’m sorry if you can’t understand this point.

 

[Doc_Keele]

My mother’s dead. Tactful comment to make in the circumstances:thumbsup:

…and you, Betterave, really do not know what you’re on about

Anyone who can make such a ridiculous argument about whether or not a term is a legal term or not is really not worth responding to, I don’t like banging my head against a wall.

 

[Betterave]

LOL, now I never said that at all did I?
I was responding to your “I’m an all knowing whatever card”

I haven’t talked at all about who I am. You have and you did play that card (of course you didn’t *say *you were playing it ).

Thought that was fairly self-explanatory. As I said before, what do I know, I’m only a medical lawyer. What could I possibly know about the issues? I know nothing.

Again with the lame rhetorical questions? Whatever. Congratulations on your law degree, that’s quite an accomplishment, but it certainly doesn’t prevent you from presenting yourself as being pretty naive - just look at your OP and your silly comments to Syntax (who obviously actually *is *a very intelligent guy).

 

[Doc_Keele]

no apologies for tactlessness I note

I personally wouldn’t be inclined to pay much heed to your judgments re intelligence, based on past performance

you don’t even know anything about legal qualifications

 

[LittleSoldier]

im refering to the "Pet peeve, literally a peeve about pets!
" thread, that i am the OP of. you can find it under threads that i started in my profile.

i understand you think its an error, if you care to review the threads i gave, you will see it is not. anthropomorphism is always an error. its nothing but an emotionalism. unfortunately, it takes hundreds of posts to beat down the repeated emotional assertions. i have done so on several threads and provided you the evidence.

you may choose to review them or not, but unless you have an argument that isnt already addressed there, im not interested in starting yet another thread on the issue.

And that is why I stated “if you are referring to the current Pet Peeves thread…” So you and I are both OPs of “Pet Peeves” threads, which is a somewhat strange coincidence. I apologize for jumping to conclusions. It was not charitable of me to do so. I was under the impression that you were pushing me away because you thought I was just a somewhat unintelligent pet owner who believed that my pets show human emotions and that you were making fun of a successful thread that I started. I should have checked but I don’t think I would ever have thought in a million years that both you and I would be OPs of current Pet Peeves threads.

My point about anthropomorphism is not that it doesn’t exist and you are correct when you say it is always a mistake. What I was describing was not anthropomorphism but a description of actual animal behavior. I wasn’t saying my dog is showing fear and that’s anthropomorphism but it’s OK to use it. That would, of course, be ridiculous. Anthropomorphism is always a mistake. I agree.

I apologize again and hope that in the spirit of Christianity we can start over again. Is that possible? I really think that we actually agree. Yesterday was a horrible day for me and that is no excuse for my treatment of you, but it was a really bad day. I’ve read my posts in this thread and they were definitely sarcastic and not nice at all. I’ve made an effort to be charitable but I obviously have quite a way to go still. I wanted to make my apology public and that’s why I posted it here instead of PMing you.

Whatever you decide, I pray that God brings you peace and brings me wisdom and compassion.
God bless!

Sancta Maria! Sancta Maria! Mater dei, ora pro nobis.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

And that is why I stated “if you are referring to the current Pet Peeves thread…” So you and I are both OPs of “Pet Peeves” threads, which is a somewhat strange coincidence. I apologize for jumping to conclusions. It was not charitable of me to do so. I was under the impression that you were pushing me away because you thought I was just a somewhat unintelligent pet owner who believed that my pets show human emotions and that you were making fun of a successful thread that I started. I should have checked but I don’t think I would ever have thought in a million years that both you and I would be OPs of current Pet Peeves threads.

My point about anthropomorphism is not that it doesn’t exist and you are correct when you say it is always a mistake. What I was describing was not anthropomorphism but a description of actual animal behavior. I wasn’t saying my dog is showing fear and that’s anthropomorphism but it’s OK to use it. That would, of course, be ridiculous. Anthropomorphism is always a mistake. I agree.

I apologize again and hope that in the spirit of Christianity we can start over again. Is that possible? I really think that we actually agree. Yesterday was a horrible day for me and that is no excuse for my treatment of you, but it was a really bad day. I’ve read my posts in this thread and they were definitely sarcastic and not nice at all. I’ve made an effort to be charitable but I obviously have quite a way to go still. I wanted to make my apology public and that’s why I posted it here instead of PMing you.

Whatever you decide, I pray that God brings you peace and brings me wisdom and compassion.
God bless!

Sancta Maria! Sancta Maria! Mater dei, ora pro nobis.

im not upset. im just bored with the topic. its no biggie.

 

[connorj1994]

This has been on my mind as well. What if a person is brain dead but left with working body. or people with down syndrome? They have 47 chromosomes instead or 46?

 

[LittleSoldier]

im not upset. im just bored with the topic. its no biggie.

Thank you. You are very gracious. And believe me, I understand about posting the same things over and over and over and then someone else comes in with the same question or point and I feel like I have to post it again! I’ve posted Church teaching on abortion so many times I almost have it memorized and when I open my CCC it opens right to that page.

It’s frustrating. So, I won’t bring up anthropomorphism again (at least not in this thread ).

Thanks again. You are very kind.

God bless!

Sancta Maria! Sancta Maria,
mater Dei, ora pro nobis.