What Constitutes The Bible?

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No. It does not it is following the order of the Jewish OT or the Tanakh which I’ve listed before the writings end with 2 Chronicles. Malachi are listed in the prophets. Jesus being Jewish may have followed the order of the Jewish OT ending with 2nd Chronicles. The Tanakh is not listed chronologically.
Mt 23
34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,
35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

OK, if I understand you correctly, Jesus’ statement may be a reference to chronology, the first murder (Abel) in the first book to the last murder in the last book of the Tanakh (Zechariah), though not the last murder.
It’s not a “prophet issue” as Abel isn’t a prophet.

The Zechariah in 2 Chron 24 is the son of Jehoiada the priest (v20).
There is a Zechariah, son of Berechiah, found in Zechariah 1:
1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to Zechariah the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo saying,

7 On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to Zechariah the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo, as follows:

Darius, king of Persia, ruled about 522 BC to 480-ish BC.
 
Mt 23
34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,
35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

OK, if I understand you correctly, Jesus’ statement may be a reference to chronology, the first murder (Abel) in the first book to the last murder in the last book of the Tanakh (Zechariah), though not the last murder.
It’s not a “prophet issue” as Abel isn’t a prophet.

The Zechariah in 2 Chron 24 is the son of Jehoiada the priest (v20).
There is a Zechariah, son of Berechiah, found in Zechariah 1:
1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to Zechariah the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo saying,

7 On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to Zechariah the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo, as follows:

Darius, king of Persia, ruled about 522 BC to 480-ish BC.
So you’re saying Zachariah mentioned by Jesus in Luke and Matt is different than the one mentioned in 2 Chronicles? I can buy that.
 
So you’re saying Zachariah mentioned by Jesus in Luke and Matt is different than the one mentioned in 2 Chronicles? I can buy that.
Thanks cfrancis that was exactly what I needed.
You’re welcome, sambos. I must thank you, as well, for engaging my mind on this topic.

It does appear Christ refers to Zechariah the prophet (from the book Zechariah). I wonder if his death is part of Jewish tradition?
 
You’re welcome, sambos. I must thank you, as well, for engaging my mind on this topic.

It does appear Christ refers to Zechariah the prophet (from the book Zechariah). I wonder if his death is part of Jewish tradition?
Probably but honestly I don’t know.
 
Apostolic succession can be had for a thousand bucks anymore. It is meaningless. No early bishop of Rome taught or believed what you guys emphasize. Did Peter venerate images? No. Did he tell the man to stand up when he bowed down? Yes. Did he talk about some magical laying on of hands from one bishop of Rome to the next? Of course not. Did he teach the real presence and the Mass as being the center of worship? Of course not. Did he say a single word about Mary? Not one. He would not even recognize your church as having anything remotely like the church he belonged to.

**I thought you were educated in the christian history and scriptures, yet you make preschool arguments of apostolic succession? Your meaningless personal opinion again conflicts with historical facts. Apostolic succession belongs only to one Holy Catholic church. I can understand your rejection of the facts of history, because you have no attachment to the original church Jesus founded upon Peter, only to take and believe what you chose after 1500 years later of Christian Tradition and Apostolic successioin which you Jesus himself established, and you reject. **

The LXX cannot be proven to contain the deuterocanonical books! Did you just skip right over the quotes I gave. Are you saying that the NT quotes the deuterocanonical books. I have read the fanciful and absurd quotes from scripturecatholic. With one or two exceptions they take a string of words from the KJV and the Apocrypha, same translators, and ignore the exact same words in the OT. It is a complete snowjob. Tell you what, if you think the deuterocanonical books have more than 2 or 3 references in the NT, I would be happy to go over them one at a time. One at at time. I will grant you 2 or 3 references, but not direct quotes. You guys have got to lay off your doctorates in Google studies and read Catholic scholars who say there are 3 deuterocanonical references AT MOST.

**Could you please go over these DC quotes from the NT given by Jimmy Akin. one at a time. **
Matthew 4:4 Wisdom 16:26
Matthew 4:15 1 Maccabees 5:15
Matthew 4:15 1 Maccabees 5:15
Matthew 5:18 Baruch 4:1
Matthew 5:28 Sirach 9:8
Matthew 5:2ss Sirach 25:7-12
Matthew 5:4 Sirach 48:24
Matthew 6:7 Sirach 7:14
Matthew 6:9 Sirach 23:1, 4
Matthew 6:10 1 Maccabees 3:60
Matthew 6:12 Sirach 28:2
Matthew 6:13 Sirach 33:1
Matthew 6:20 Sirach 29:10s
Matthew 6:23 Sirach 14:10
Matthew 6:33 Wisdom 7:11
Matthew 7:12 Tobit 4:15
Matthew 7:12 Sirach 31:15
Matthew 7:16 Sirach 27:6
Matthew 8:11 Baruch 4:37
Matthew 8:21 Tobit 4:3
Matthew 9:36 Judith 11:19
Matthew 9:38 1 Maccabees 12:17
Matthew 10:16 Sirach 13:17
Matthew 11:14 Sirach 48:10
Matthew 11:22 Judith 16:17
Matthew 11:25 Tobit 7:17
Matthew 11:25 Sirach 51:1
Matthew 11:28 Sirach 24:19
Matthew 11:28 Sirach 51:23
Matthew 11:29 Sirach 6:24s
Matthew 11:29 Sirach 6:28s
Matthew 11:29 Sirach 51:26s
Matthew 12:4 2 Maccabees 10:3
Matthew 12:5 Sirach 40:15
Matthew 13:44 Sirach 20:30s
Matthew 16:18 Wisdom 16:13
Matthew 16:22 1 Maccabees 2:21
Matthew 16:27 Sirach 35:22
Matthew 17:11 Sirach 48:10
Matthew 18:10 Tobit 12:15
Matthew 20:2 Tobit 5:15
Matthew 22:13 Wisdom 17:2
Matthew 23:38 Tobit 14:4
Matthew 24:15 1 Maccabees 1:54
Matthew 24:15 2 Maccabees 8:17
Matthew 24:16 1 Maccabees 2:28
Matthew 25:35 Tobit 4:17
Matthew 25:36 Sirach 7:32-35
Matthew 26:38 Sirach 37:2
Matthew 27:24 Daniel 13:46
Matthew 27:43 Wisdom 2:13
Matthew 27:43 Wisdom 2:18-20

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Mark
Mark 1:15 Tobit 14:5
Mark 4:5 Sirach 40:15
Mark 4:11 Wisdom 2:22
Mark 5:34 Judith 8:35
Mark 6:49 Wisdom 17:15
Mark 8:37 Sirach 26:14
Mark 9:31 Sirach 2:18
Mark 9:48 Judith 16:17
Mark 10:18 Sirach 4:1
Mark 14:34 Sirach 37:2
Mark 15:29 Wisdom 2:17s

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Luke
Luke 1:17 Sirach 48:10
Luke 1:19 Tobit 12:15
Luke 1:42 Judith 13:18
Luke 1:52 Sirach 10:14
Luke 2:29 Tobit 11:9
Luke 2:37 Judith 8:6
Luke 6:35 Wisdom 15:1
Luke 7:22 Sirach 48:5
Luke 9:8 Sirach 48:10
Luke 10:17 Tobit 7:17
Luke 10:19 Sirach 11:19
Luke 10:21 Sirach 51:1
Luke 12:19 Tobit 7:10
Luke 12:20 Wisdom 15:8
Luke 13:25 Tobit 14:4
Luke 13:27 1 Maccabees 3:6
Luke 13:29 Baruch 4:37
Luke 14:13 Tobit 2:2
Luke 15:12 1 Maccabees 10:29 [30]
Luke 15:12 Tobit 3:17
Luke 18:7 Sirach 35:22
Luke 19:44 Wisdom 3:7
Luke 21:24 Tobit 14:5
Luke 21:24 Sirach 28:18
Luke 21:25 Wisdom 5:22
Luke 24:4 2 Maccabees 3:26
Luke 24:31 2 Maccabees 3:34
Luke 24:50 Sirach 50:20s
Luke 24:53 Sirach 50:22

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John
John 1:3 Wisdom 9:1
John 3:8 Sirach 16:21
John 3:12 Wisdom 9:16
John 3:12 Wisdom 18:15s
John 3:13 Baruch 3:29
John 3:28 1 Maccabees 9:39
John 3:32 Tobit 4:6
John 4:9 Sirach 50:25s
John 4:48 Wisdom 8:8
John 5:18 Wisdom 2:16
John 6:35 Sirach 24:21
John 7:38 Sirach 24:40, 43[30s]
John 8:44 Wisdom 2:24
John 8:53 Sirach 44:19
John 10:20 Wisdom 5:4
John 10:22 1 Maccabees 4:59
John 14:15 Wisdom 6:18
John 15:9s Wisdom 3:9
John 17:3 Wisdom 15:3
John 20:22 Wisdom 15:11

Here are just a few of the 300 quotes to your only 3. I will list the others for you or provide a site from Jimmy Akin

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Apostolic succession can be had for a thousand bucks anymore. It is meaningless. No early bishop of Rome taught or believed what you guys emphasize. Did Peter venerate images? No. Did he tell the man to stand up when he bowed down? Yes. Did he talk about some magical laying on of hands from one bishop of Rome to the next? Of course not. Did he teach the real presence and the Mass as being the center of worship? Of course not. Did he say a single word about Mary? Not one. He would not even recognize your church as having anything remotely like the church he belonged to.

So Iam to suppose you were there in the first century to prove your accusations. When the Roman Catholic church and scripture proves the sacramental belief system including the true presence. It is easy for you to argue safely 2000 years later after the fact. When the first 30 Popes including Peter were martyred for the Catholic faith. Where are your martyrs that bring your christianity 2000 years later, you should give God thanks for the Catholic church that brings you your bible and christianity from her Saints and Martyrs.
Can you name 3 of your christian martrys who died for not believing in the true presence, or the blessed Virgin, or the Mass as you reject them today? from the first and second centuries please provide dates eyewitness to the martyrdom. How is that the Roman Catholic church can do all this from the first century on… and your Christian beliefs are no where to be found until 1500 years later?


The LXX cannot be proven to contain the deuterocanonical books! Did you just skip right over the quotes I gave. Are you saying that the NT quotes the deuterocanonical books. I have read the fanciful and absurd quotes from scripturecatholic. With one or two exceptions they take a string of words from the KJV and the Apocrypha, same translators, and ignore the exact same words in the OT. It is a complete snowjob. Tell you what, if you think the deuterocanonical books have more than 2 or 3 references in the NT, I would be happy to go over them one at a time. One at at time. I will grant you 2 or 3 references, but not direct quotes. You guys have got to lay off your doctorates in Google studies and read Catholic scholars who say there are 3 deuterocanonical references AT MOST.
I will provide a link that addresses a couple of them:
confrontingcatholicism.com/apocrypha_21.html

One scripture would be enough to discredit your argument about the NT containing a DC reference. When there are 300 references. Hint; understanding the content of the scriptural teaching as well as wording from both references Just as Jesus revealed himself in all the scriptures to the disciples on the road to Emmaus. But then you were not there to recieve these apsotolic Traditional teachings only the Catholic church existed as you already proven.

There is not a council of Jamnia. No one believes that anymore. Heck even Catholics do not believe that.
catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0409fea4.asp

**You are refusing to believe a Council of Rabbis of the school in Jamnia never took place?. Maybe you should have a talk with St. Jerome, or maybe you and your catholics disagree with this Icon of a Catholic who followed the Pope. What point is it to prove this when you cant make out When and where the Catholic church saints, martyrs, popes put together the bible. For your information we have two Catholic saints who argued the Catholic faith, and scriptures with the Rabbis in the first century.
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I am sick of arguing with people who get their information from the University of Google.
**Your sickness might be a symptom from arguing against Truth and historical fact. The bible is a Catholic book period. Sorry you are unable to refute this documented historical fact. It pains me to hear you get sick over it.

I returned hear to give the complete list of scriptures, but I see no need too.

Peace be with you**
 
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