What could be the possible reasons why Jesus never wrote anything down?

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=Chiefsinner;11402962]The only time I can recall in scripture that Jesus ever writes anything down is in the parable of the adulterous women John 8:6
So what could be the possible reasons why Jesus never wrote anything down?
He came “To TEACH” not to write. As God He was fully aware of ALL of His actions and ALL of their effects.

John.15: 16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you”

John 17:16 “And I will ask the Father, and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever.”

John 14:26 “But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you”

SO THERE ARE TWO REASONS
[1] IT WAS NOT NECESSARY

[2] CHRIST ALREADY KNEW WHAT HE WOULD DO TO INSHURE HIS MESSAGE WAS RIGHTLY TAUGHT:thumbsup:

God Bless you!
Patrick
 
I have to point out that at the time of Jesus, the title rabbi has a slightly different nuance from today. Today, ‘rabbi’ is pretty much an official academic title: you earn the title via semicha after years of rigorous study. At the time of Jesus, however, anyone who was ostanding or anyone (regardless o social rank) who could teach well - whether officially trained or not - can be called rabbi (which simply meant ‘my great one’). Think of it as like the English sir or the Japanese sensei. It was only after AD 70 that the epithet began to be institutionalized and restricted for ‘ordained’ lay theologians. (Note though that Jewish rabbis were and are not like Christian priests: they aren’t clergymen, strictly speaking, though some secular laws might consider them one.)

When people were surprised at Jesus’ lack of ‘education’, it did not mean so much that Jesus was illiterat per se but rather that He did not have a formal education to become an officially-accredited teacher. In modern terms, think of it as something like an average joe from the street who did not study to become a professor and with no degree whatsoever managing to stump professional academics.
Well I have to disagree with the statement that anyone who could teach well could be called a rabbi. I disgress because the jewish law at that time had very strict rules and a very complicated training with lots of memorization to become a rabbi/sage. No they could not call anyone a rabbi that was not a real rabbi and remember you had all the pharisees who were rabbis themselves overseeing the law with iron hand.

As someone mentioned usually they would get tutored by an older rabbi. What happens with Jesus was that he wasn’t tutored by a human rabbi instead by God. I also disagree that he had no education. Mary and Joseph were practicing jews abiding by the law which means that he would have had the education required by jewish law starting at five with the written Torah so he wasn’t an average Joe. He didn’t study under a human rabbi but there is enough in the bible to see that he was a real rabbi.
 
Why is it ridiculous to think that Jesus could not wrote? He wasn’t from a wealthy privileged background like St Paul was, Jesus was the son of a poor carpenter. First century Judea was not a meritocratic society where education was freely available for all, and all could rise to the top on merit. How many carpenters there do you think could write? It is amazing that Jesus could read, let alone write. There is no evidence to suggest that he could write, so based on his socio-economic background (as a man) it is safe to assume that he couldn’t write.
Because saying that jesus couldn’t write is similar to saying that Albert Einstein didn’t know basic arithmetics or algebra or that there is no actual proof that Marie Curie knew the periodic table.
 
Jesus is GOD!!! How can God not know how to write?
In the gospels, people were amazed and questioned the validity of Jesus`s miracles because he was the son of a carpenter, in thesame way you are questionning his abilty to write because he was a son of a carpenter or of a poor socio economic background.
IMO, there is no cause for debate on this matter. Jesus, who at 12 years only, stunned the rabbi in the temple with His wisdom, despite the fact that he was a carpenter s son, surely knew how to write because He knows all things and He is God!
Jesus is God, of course, but also fully human. He had to LEARN how to crawl, walk, speak, use the potty, do carpentry, and yes, even read and write. Paper was NOT ubiquitous or cheap in those days, nor was ink. The costs and time investment in learning not only how to form letters, but also write well were greater than today. Pencils and cheap paper and mass printed books and free public schooling have spoiled us. Jesus had to put forth the same effort to train His body to master human skills as did every other human.
Besides which, the teaching norm at the time was largely not written. It was oral, and that remained the case until the 1500s.
 
Because saying that jesus couldn’t write is similar to saying that Albert Einstein didn’t know basic arithmetics or algebra or that there is no actual proof that Marie Curie knew the periodic table.
No, it isn’t similar at all.
 
Because saying that jesus couldn’t write is similar to saying that Albert Einstein didn’t know basic arithmetics or algebra or that there is no actual proof that Marie Curie knew the periodic table.
Fair point.

And what difference would it have made anyway? He made enough of an impression without any recorded writings.

I do like the “symbol” comment though. Very powerful teaching tool.
 
Well I have to disagree with the statement that anyone who could teach well could be called a rabbi. I disgress because the jewish law at that time had very strict rules and a very complicated training with lots of memorization to become a rabbi/sage. No they could not call anyone a rabbi that was not a real rabbi and remember you had all the pharisees who were rabbis themselves overseeing the law with iron hand.

As someone mentioned usually they would get tutored by an older rabbi. What happens with Jesus was that he wasn’t tutored by a human rabbi instead by God. I also disagree that he had no education. Mary and Joseph were practicing jews abiding by the law which means that he would have had the education required by jewish law starting at five with the written Torah so he wasn’t an average Joe. He didn’t study under a human rabbi but there is enough in the bible to see that he was a real rabbi.
But that’s my point, really. Much of what we call ‘Jewish law’ today (i.e. the Mishnah and the Talmud) was only codified AFTER the time of Jesus. I’ll go into detail later.
 
Because saying that jesus couldn’t write is similar to saying that Albert Einstein didn’t know basic arithmetics or algebra or that there is no actual proof that Marie Curie knew the periodic table.
Not quite, because writing was not essentially necessary for Jesus to carry out his mission. He could read, he could speak, he did not NEED to write.

It would be like saying that Albert Einstein was computer illiterate or Marie Curie didn’t know how to use a washing machine. Writing wasn’t essential for Jesus to do what he did.
Arithmetic was probably essential for Albert Einstein (although that can be debated regarding the “basic” qualifier) and knowing the periodic table would have been an important aspect of Marie Curie’s work since she was a chemist and discovered polonium and radium, two elements on that table. Not knowing the table would have meant she couldn’t have known which elements were, in fact, absent from it, right?
 
But that’s my point, really. Much of what we call ‘Jewish law’ today (i.e. the Mishnah and the Talmud) was only codified AFTER the time of Jesus. I’ll go into detail later.
I quote the entry for “Rabbi” the Mercer Dictionary of the Bible (p. 731):

In modern Judaism the rabbinate is an ordained office. Formerly, however, rabbi was only a title of respect, sometimes adressed to learned laymen, sometimes distinguishing a master from servants, but most often distinguishing a teacher from his pupils. In the Talmudic era [AD 70-AD 500], the term “rab” was used chiefly of Babylonian teachers and “rabbi” of Palestinian teachers.
In the NT rabbi was simply an honorific title which did not indicate any official appointment; it was applied to teachers of the Law in general. The term occurs only in Matthew, Mark, and John. Jesus asserted that the scribes and Pharisees loved to be called rabbi, and that his followers were not to be so called (Matt 23:7-8). John the Baptist’s disciples called him rabbi (John 3:26), but in all other instances the term is ascribed to Jesus. The Gospel of John interprets rabbi to mean teacher (John 1:38; 3:2; “rabboni,” 20:16).
Jesus being called rabbi by his disciples and others indicates that he conducted himself in a manner similar to the scribes. He based his teachings on scripture, and his disciples regarded him as their teacher. However, he differed from the scribes in that he did not teach or develop traditional material, but instead taught as one who had intrinsic authority. His disciple did not become rabbis themselves, instead they remained as disciples with Jesus as their teacher and Lord.
Other early Christian writings do not call Jesus rabbi; as the Palestinian tradition became less prominent, other christological titles supplanted the term rabbi.

From Henry Wansborough’s Jesus and the Oral Gospel Tradition (p. 186):

In all four Gospels Jesus is addressed as διδάσκαλε (didaskale), ‘teacher!’ As the synonymous parallelism in Mt. 23.8 hows, the vocative of διδάσκαλος (didaskalos) translates the Hebrew/Aramaic address רבי (rabbi), which originally meant ‘my great one’. In an explanatory statement Jn 1.38 expressly makes this identification, which is corroborated by some epigraphical evidence (CII, II, 1266, 1268/9) from pre-70 AD Jerusalem. In the first century AD rabbi was not a fixed title for an academically trained and ordained scribe as it became later and has remained until the present day. The actual address, rabbi, was used mainly, though not exclusively, for a teacher. The Gospels reflect accurately this usage, which apparently began to change with the rabbinic reconstruction of Judaism after the end of the first century AD. Rabbi as a formal title with the personal suffix losing its significance is first attested in the Jewish necropolis of Beth Shearim starting in the second century AD. So, which term was used when Jesus was spoken of as ‘the teacher’ (e.g. Mk. 14.14 par.) with the definite article? Since מלמד (malmad) was rather used for an elementary teacher it seems after the discoveries in Qumran that here the appropriate equivalent is המרה (ha-Moreh).

Also note pp. 170-171 of Sigalit Ben-Zion’s A Roadmap to the Heavens: An Anthropological Study of Hegemony Among Priests, Sages and Laymen and Catherine Hezser’s The Social Structure of the Rabbinic Movement in Roman Palestine, particularly p. 59:

Since Jesus was called “Rabbi” but did not conform to the traditional image of post-70 Jewish rabbis, and since pre-70 sages do not bear the title “Rabbi” in the Mishnah, most scholars assume that the meaning and usage of the term “Rabbi” at the time of Jesus differed from the meaning which it acquired after the destruction of the Temple: in pre-70 times, “Rabbi” was used as an unofficial honorary address for any person held in high esteem; after 70 it was almost exclusively applied to ordained teachers of the Law.
 
Because we can’t wrote either. 😃

-Tim-
I’m still hungup on the question of “Do we have any proof that the lector in the synagogue could read ?” which is the root of the entire “debate”.

When I stop chuckling I’ll move on to the misspellings …🤷

Though frankly its worse when one realizes the actual question is “Can God Read ?”. I mean the Christ came to earth, knew their thoughts, healed, raised the dead, walked on water, harrowed hell, ascended into heaven and will come again to judge the living and the dead…"

… “Yes but can he read ?” … :whacky:

And no I have no intention of taking these self appointed scholars seriously.
 
I’m still hungup on the question of “Do we have any proof that the lector in the synagogue could read ?” which is the root of the entire “debate”.

When I stop chuckling I’ll move on to the misspellings …🤷

Though frankly its worse when one realizes the actual question is “Can God Read ?”. I mean the Christ came to earth, knew their thoughts, healed, raised the dead, walked on water, harrowed hell, ascended into heaven and will come again to judge the living and the dead…"

… “Yes but can he read ?” … :whacky:

And no I have no intention of taking these self appointed scholars seriously.
We have to remember that the Second Person of the Trinity willingly accepted all the limitation of humanity in general and of his time and place in particular. Jesus was fully human. Jesus got tired, hungry, cold. He wept. He willingly accepted humanity in all its limitations.

There are moments when Jesus stepped past those limitations - he walked on water, fasted 40 days, read people’s thoughts and saw their heart, raised the dead and knew the life of the Samaritan woman - these he did through his divine nature. Most of his time however was spent under willing submission to his human nature, like us in all things but sin.

He was fully God from the moment he was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the Blessed Virgin’s womb but I don’t hear anyone claiming that he knew theoretical physics or calculus when he lay in the manger. He had to learn to walk and to eat. The Bible says that he grew in wisdom from the time he was twelve.

I’m sure there were things Jesus didn’t know, like how to build an igloo. Could he have called upon the Father and received that knowledge? I’m sure he could have but it was not relevant to his mission.

-Tim-
 
I believe the Lord chose not to write in order to allow His appointed Apostles and certain writers to be an example as God’s instruments to edify His people, that way it shows us that we come to God by means of heirarchy through the Church, and not just a “me and Jesus only” kind of approach that we see in this day and time in Protestantism by bypassing ordained heirarchy. We have a Lord that walked on water, raised the dead, knew the Scriptures at age 12 better than the Scribes, etc… The idea of the Lord not being able to write is a way of trying to strip Him of His deity and going overboard on humanizing Him. So called scholars in their arogance love to dumb down peity and the supernatural.
 
I believe the Lord chose not to write in order to allow His appointed Apostles and certain writers to be an example as God’s instruments to edify His people, that way it shows us that we come to God by means of heirarchy through the Church, and not just a “me and Jesus only” kind of approach that we see in this day and time in Protestantism by bypassing ordained heirarchy. We have a Lord that walked on water, raised the dead, knew the Scriptures at age 12 better than the Scribes, etc… The idea of the Lord not being able to write is a way of trying to strip Him of His deity and going overboard on humanizing Him. So called scholars in their arogance love to dumb down peity and the supernatural.
There is no such thing as going overboard on humanizing him because he was fully human, like us in all things but sin.

Jesus was a human person. Some people can’t write. Many people in Jesus’ time could not write. It is not beyond the realm of possibility. He willingly submitted to all the limitations of being human.

-Tim-
 
The only time I can recall in scripture that Jesus ever writes anything down is in the parable of the adulterous women John 8:6

So what could be the possible reasons why Jesus never wrote anything down?
Joining super late, but I think this ties into the difference between sola scriptura and the understanding of Tradition.

Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible, he left us a Church. God works through people not pages.
 
I believe the Lord chose not to write in order to allow His appointed Apostles and certain writers to be an example as God’s instruments to edify His people, that way it shows us that we come to God by means of heirarchy through the Church, and not just a “me and Jesus only” kind of approach that we see in this day and time in Protestantism by bypassing ordained heirarchy. We have a Lord that walked on water, raised the dead, knew the Scriptures at age 12 better than the Scribes, etc… The idea of the Lord not being able to write is a way of trying to strip Him of His deity and going overboard on humanizing Him. So called scholars in their arogance love to dumb down peity and the supernatural.
Are we gonna do the whole Alexandria vs. Antioch thing again? 😃

To be serious, it’s difficult business to draw the line. Divinize Christ too much and you’ll end up denying His humanity; humanize Jesus too much and you’ll rob Him of His divinity.

Sometimes I feel that Christians on the ‘conservative’ or ‘traditional’ side who lay stress on Christ the God have a tendency come close (at times dangerously so) to having the mental image of a docetic/monophysite Christ; those on the opposite side who lay stress on Jesus the Man meanwhile seem to be more prone to unwitting adoptionism/Arianism.
 
Not quite, because writing was not essentially necessary for Jesus to carry out his mission. He could read, he could speak, he did not NEED to write.

It would be like saying that Albert Einstein was computer illiterate or Marie Curie didn’t know how to use a washing machine. Writing wasn’t essential for Jesus to do what he did.
Arithmetic was probably essential for Albert Einstein (although that can be debated regarding the “basic” qualifier) and knowing the periodic table would have been an important aspect of Marie Curie’s work since she was a chemist and discovered polonium and radium, two elements on that table. Not knowing the table would have meant she couldn’t have known which elements were, in fact, absent from it, right?
It wasn’t essential for his mission but Jesus was a rabbi/sage/scribe. It is irrelevant that it wasn’t essential. How come a rabbi is not going to know how to read and write if that was what they did. Saying a rabbi/ sage was illiterate is exactly like saying that Einstein didnt know basic math. Einstein was a physicists and all physist learn math because is taught first thing as basic. On the same way reading and writing was the basics for being a rabbi. Hence is Jesus is a rabbi he knows how to read and write.
 
Fair point.

And what difference would it have made anyway? He made enough of an impression without any recorded writings.

I do like the “symbol” comment though. Very powerful teaching tool.
It is true that it really wouldn’t have made a difference but that is not where my comclusion comes from. It comes from the fact that all rabbies knew how to read and write so if he was a rabbi he had to know! Second, at the time the Pharisees were ruling with iron hand. The Pharisees were constantly after Jesus. If Jesus would have missappropiated the label of rabbi or violated the Jewish law, the pharisees would have gotten him in the blink of an eye but the bible says they couldn’t get him, so Jesus was not missappropiating the name, hence he had to be a real rabbi/sage, hence he was literate.
 
Listen everybody! 😃

Okay now that I have your attention.

The question posed here is could Jesus write, not could He read.

Reading and writing are SEPARATE skills. Reading is a training of the mind and eye alone. Writing is a training of hand-eye coordination.

It is clear from Scripture that He could and did read. What is not clear is could or did He write. Again, there is another distinction. It is possible that He could write, but did not do so. Why? Because parchment and ink and pens were EXPENSIVE! Jesus purposefully chose to live a life of total poverty. He did not carry around personal belongings and He instructed His apostles to live as He did during His years of teaching them. So they likely did not carry around expensive and scarce resources, either.

Now, of course, this is all speculation, but some posters seem so hung up on the notion that people are insinuating that Jesus is illiterate and are completely missing the fact that literacy and penmanship are two totally separate skills.

God bless!
 
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