What dear friend, do you find strange about Catholicism?

[Peter_J]

Anyways, not sure this is just for non-Catholics.

Good point. Is it too late for me to make my answer to the OP: “What I find strange about Catholicism is that some people don’t want to join it.”?

 

[Peter_J]

D)

 

[meltzerboy]

I think it’s a difficult thing to post in just this short posts. Here is a link of someone who tried:
Hope it is helpful.

biblehub.com/library/edersheim/the_life_and_times_of_jesus_the_messiah/chapter_v_what_messiah_did.htm

I know what they are and how they work. I still find them strange.

God bless,
D.

I realize my comment can easily be a separate thread. Thanks for the link; I’ll have a look.

 

[eddie_too]

how do jews atone for their sins?

i realize that in the old testament the jews made sin offerings from their bounty. is that still done today?

i am not sure how offering up a sheep or bull can be sufficient to atone for an offense against and infinite and perfect being.

on the other hand, if a person does not sin, they do not need salvation.

if a person does not believe in sin, i wonder what they call murder and rape and theft and robbery and on and on.

 

[frangiuliano115]

Why don’t you rethink yours. This is not helping

I think you should rethink your signature line.

I refer to the word “Peace” and use instead a word you really mean.

Fran

 

[Michael68]

I think you should rethink your signature line.

I refer to the word “Peace” and use instead a word you really mean.

Fran

Good grief, what do I really mean? This is ridiculous

 

[frangiuliano115]

We went from a country Church to one in town.

It just seems weird to me that my family can/is wanted to be part of the congregation but I’m not. Totally new concept to me.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to be confrontational or anything here…I came to CAF to try to understand more about Catholisism for my families sake and hopefully put my mind at ease that my experience within two parishes is more of a one off than a norm.

Right now I feel burdened as my oldest reaches first communion time. It’s something that I really want to be a part of and can’t, while the rest of my wife’s side of the family is.

It seems to me that you will be a part of it TC. The only way you will not be able to participate is at communion time, and some catholics don’t participate either. Communion is different for catholics so no exception could be made.

However, the church liturgy will be beautiful, I’ve done this myself in a parish nearby, and I think you’ll find it a rewarding experience. It’s such a blessing to see children receiving communion for the first time!

Fran

 

[Michael68]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

 

[skeyes]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

Michael, don’t let anyone chase you from this forum.

Peace,

Stan

 

[TC3033]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

You don’t have to go, but If you don’t understand why others pushed back on your comment(s), then I don’t know…

 

[frangiuliano115]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

I don’t want you gone Michael. But be nice. Some of your comments sound rather brusque.
There’s no need for that. We’re here to pass a pleasant hour and maybe learn something new.

Fran

 

[adrift]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

Michael no one wants you gone. Justaservant was referring to another post not yours. Fran who knows:shrug:

 

[Michael68]

I don’t want you gone Michael. But be nice. Some of your comments sound rather brusque.
There’s no need for that. We’re here to pass a pleasant hour and maybe learn something new.

Fran

I’m sorry I’m not as smart as you all. I don’t know what brusque means. I type short posts because I type with one finger on a phone. I’m not as sophisticated as yall and oh well.
My posts get misinterpreted and I’m tired of it. Good Day to all of you. I’m leaving this forum for good

 

[frangiuliano115]

I realize my comment can easily be a separate thread. Thanks for the link; I’ll have a look.

Hi Meltzerboy

I checked out the link but it was too long and I have a feeling it’s not what you’re looking for.

Sacrifice Economy. The book of Mathew ties Judaism to Christianity. Or I should say the Mosaic Law with Jesus. or the Mosaic Covenant with the New Covenant (Jesus).

Why Jesus as sacrifice was necessary is a good question.

I have to string some stuff together and it’s too late here.

I’m thinking of the fall of Adam.

Cain and Abel. Cain’s sacrifice was not accepted.

Noah. The flood kills everyone. Noah saves his family and thus mankind. Noah could prefigure Jesus or some like to say that the ark prefigures Jesus, which makes more sense. All of sinful humanity died but the righteous were saved somehow.

The Hebrew slaves in Egypt. They needed to be freed. They crossed the Red Sea, water, baptism, dying to come out of the water alive in Christ.

Exodus 11 to 13 ( I think) The last plague. The first-born will die when the angel of death passes over. But the blood of the lamb on the door post will save those inside. Blood. Salvation. Jesus is prefigured here.

Animal sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. unintentional sin, as you said in a different thread. The sin nature, concupiscence - unintentional sin needs forgiveness. it’s so grave that only God could make a big enough sacrifice.

Mathew was Jewish. He saw Jesus as the Lamb of God. Thus the final sacrifice for our sin and sins. Paul studied everything for 3 years before starting to write. He put everything together, studied all the scriptures / O.T. / Jesus as sacrifice.

Setting up the Kingdomof God on earth was also a big part of Jesus’ mission. “You must believe to see the kingdom.” Human nature keeps getting in the way though.

My thoughts are jumbled, but the base is there.

Fran

 

[adrift]

I’m sorry I’m not as smart as you all. I don’t know what brusque means. I type short posts because I type with one finger on a phone. I’m not as sophisticated as yall and oh well.
My posts get misinterpreted and I’m tired of it. Good Day to all of you. I’m leaving this forum for good

I am sorry you are rightly offended by some boorish comments. I would hope you would stay and forgive them.

 

[frangiuliano115]

The concept of a human sacrifice or scapegoat–especially when we gave up even animal sacrifices thousands of years ago–seems more than odd to me.
And also, the ritual of ingesting the believed blood and flesh of that person–also very “strange.” (to use your wording).

The evolution of the church’s beliefs, from the very start, also strikes me as a-kilter.
The link with the Jewish scripture and wait for a Messiah to Jesus of Nazareth does not click aligned to me–it does not seem to add up. And I find it strange that some think it does.

(I assume this is how the people who were are are still Jewish feel…else they’d be Christian.)

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Hi DaddyGirl

We’re not supposed to think of it as a “scapegoat” concept, but, in the end, that does seem to be what it is.

Jews that don’t accept Jesus believe He was not the messiah. However, we’re both waiting for Him here on earth / the Jews for the first time and christians for the second time!

Soon
Fran

 

[JustaServant]

Whatever, Fran and Justaservant want me gone. I’m gone. You didn’t have to beat around the bush. I guess I have no rights here. Later Days

Seriously?
My mother’s side of the family is Slovak, so I’m pretty much immune to guilt trips. Think of it as Doris Roberts from Everybody Loves Raymond on acid.

Is it so hard to change your posting style?

 

[Michael68]

I’ve been thinking about it and here is my conclusion: I am a baptised and confirmed Catholic in good standing with the Church. I have every right to be here!

 

[Peter_J]

…I came to CAF to try to understand more about Catholisism

That’s fine so far as it goes, but do bear in mind what my signature used to say (unless it didn’t, my memory isn’t perfect ) namely that Catholicism isn’t a website.

 

[Michael68]

Seriously?
My mother’s side of the family is Slovak, so I’m pretty much immune to guilt trips. Think of it as Doris Roberts from Everybody Loves Raymond on acid.

Is it so hard to change your posting style?

What style are you referring to? I just write. BTW this is not the first time you have harassed me and you won’t chase me away