What Denominations Believe in the Real Presence and Who Actually Has It

[EvangelCatholic]

apostleschurch.org/

Thanks for the link, Izdaari. Your parish is the future of Lutheran & Episcopalian churches, in my opinion. I rejoice in the unity of our Catholic faith and eventual merger of ELCA and TEC in our life time. :clapping:

 

[EvangelCatholic]

I think that…the denominations that don’t claim to “have” the real presence don’t “believe” in it…they look at it as a symbolic ritual.
In other words, they don’t think someone else has it and they don’t.…they just think there is no “real” presence and that the scene in the gospels was meant to be symbolic, and carried on that way…so it’s not as though they are “missing” anything…

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Agree. That is why I believe that Christ is fully Present in all Eucharists regardless the denomination. Just because some Christians don’t believe in the Real Presence doesn’t, by any means, restrict our Lord’s ubiquitous presence in the most holy Sacrament of the Altar.

 

[Dave_Noonan]

Agree. That is why I believe that Christ is fully Present in all Eucharists regardless the denomination. Just because some Christians don’t believe in the Real Presence doesn’t, by any means, restrict our Lord’s ubiquitous presence in the most holy Sacrament of the Altar.

I also don’t think that Christ is so capricious and arbitrary as to refuse his presence to the faithful based on the particular hierarchical pedigree of the presider; not that ordination isn’t good for maintaining order within the church.

And if the Real Presence is contingent on the full and proper belief (whatever that is, since we are dealing with a mystery) of all in attendance, I think Christianity is probably in big trouble.

 

[EvangelCatholic]

I also don’t think that Christ is so capricious and arbitrary as to refuse his presence to the faithful based on the particular hierarchical pedigree of the presider; not that ordination isn’t good for maintaining order within the church.

And if the Real Presence is contingent on the full and proper belief (whatever that is, since we are dealing with a mystery) of all in attendance, I think Christianity is probably in big trouble.

Agree.

 

[JonNC]

I also don’t think that Christ is so capricious and arbitrary as to refuse his presence to the faithful based on the particular hierarchical pedigree of the presider; not that ordination isn’t good for maintaining order within the church.

And if the Real Presence is contingent on the full and proper belief (whatever that is, since we are dealing with a mystery) of all in attendance, I think Christianity is probably in big trouble.

Agree on the first part. On the second, the Lutheran confessions are pretty clear that His presence is not contingent on whether the celebrant or those in the pews are good or evil, believe or don’t.

Jon

 

[Izdaari]

Agree on the first part. On the second, the Lutheran confessions are pretty clear that His presence is not contingent on whether the celebrant or those in the pews are good or evil, believe or don’t.

Jon

Agree with all of this too.

 

[Izdaari]

Thanks for the link, Izdaari. Your parish is the future of Lutheran & Episcopalian churches, in my opinion. I rejoice in the unity of our Catholic faith and eventual merger of ELCA and TEC in our life time. :clapping:

I think so too.

However, I should mention that COTA (as we call it) did not originate as a Lutheran parish and an Episcopal parish that merged, but as a Lutheran mission station that petitioned for and received status as an Episcopal mission station also. So, we have been both since almost the beginning. Last year, we were officially recognized as an ELCA church. Our official recognition as a TEC church is still pending, but is expected to come.