What did the crowd not know?

[OneSheep]

Good Morning!

Hello.

Ok so for example, a person of faith for many years just one day decides to reject that faith would not have any idea of what they were doing? Is this a good example?

Yes, that is a good example. Faith involves relationship with others and with God through prayer. Why would the person decide to reject the relationships? Well, we reject relationships when we are angry or discontent in some way. Is the person in touch with the fact that these relationships are the source of life of life itself? If so, why would a person reject? Self-destruction? All self-destruction is a matter of ignorance or blindness.

Some in the crowd may not have heard of Jesus until that time, others maybe a few years, welcome him in faith that he is the messiah, but then reject so easily…

Yes, it doesn’t take much to trigger our anger and resentment sometimes, even toward those we love a great deal. Those who were close to Jesus, even if they were triggered, would have sought to forgive. Those who were not so close had no compelling reason to forgive.

Once confusion sets into our mind, we can make the wrong decisions, we see that even now.

Yes, confusion in itself is a matter of conflicting ideas, right? I think that in the moment, though, the condemning part of the crowd was not feeling confused. Their call for crucifixion was certain.

What do you think about this: Did the crowd know that God wants us to forgive rather than blame, or did their notion of faith encourage blame?

Thanks, Simpleas. Have a great day!

 

[simpleas]

Good Morning!

Yes, that is a good example. Faith involves relationship with others and with God through prayer. Why would the person decide to reject the relationships? Well, we reject relationships when we are angry or discontent in some way. Is the person in touch with the fact that these relationships are the source of life of life itself? If so, why would a person reject? Self-destruction? All self-destruction is a matter of ignorance or blindness.

Yes, it doesn’t take much to trigger our anger and resentment sometimes, even toward those we love a great deal. Those who were close to Jesus, even if they were triggered, would have sought to forgive. Those who were not so close had no compelling reason to forgive.

Yes, confusion in itself is a matter of conflicting ideas, right? I think that in the moment, though, the condemning part of the crowd was not feeling confused. Their call for crucifixion was certain.

What do you think about this: Did the crowd know that God wants us to forgive rather than blame, or did their notion of faith encourage blame?

Thanks, Simpleas. Have a great day!

Hi

When I said rejecting the faith, I didn’t mean rejecting God, I meant rejecting a certain path that for maybe many reasons no longer seems to be the path, they may chose another path that makes more sense to said person, that they feel keeps them in relationship with God. Others I’m not sure, I know many people who can attend Mass and never be involved in church events and so don’t have relationships with others, unless you just meant relationship in general.

I’m not clear on how Jewish people forgave each other, I only know they would take their animal offering to the temple for a priest to offer to God for their sin. I know only that they would demand punishment for a sin, and not show mercy. I can’t say all were like that, but that’s all I know, and of course the teaching of Jesus was quite the opposite of demanding punishment.
So it would seem that the crowd wanted punishment (death of Jesus) because they had not learnt enough about forgiveness, understanding etc.

Have a nice day

 

[OneSheep]

So it would seem that the crowd wanted punishment (death of Jesus) because they had not learnt enough about forgiveness, understanding etc.

Have a nice day

Yes, what a great observation! And then Jesus showed them (us) how to forgive, and He showed us that we can do so without seeing repentance, and in the worst of circumstances.

And if the thread ends right here on your note, I’d say we’ve got most of it covered.

Thanks, and Blessings!