What do I “do” at a Latin Mass?

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Fauken, were you around at the time before the new Mass? I was, mate. Everyone sat in the pew and prayed their Rosaries, through the entire Mass.

Guess what happened when Mass went to the vernacular, the Rosaries got said before or after Mass.

We are, and always were , supposed to participate in the Mass. One of the goals of the new Mass was participation by the congregation.

Good gravy yourself! The day my Nonna put her Rosary down, was a sight to see, along with her friends.
 
Do not bring your Rosary. We are not to pray the Rosary during Mass, be it Latin or the Vernacular. Most places have Rosary before or after the Latin Mass nowdays.
 
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Thank you. I don’t know how to explain it but something about this Mass being available so close after my last experience is like a precious gift. It’s a ling story but I have a type of social anxiety and strange enough it includes going out to the Novus Ordo Mass.I hate being in mortal sin when I don’t go, it gives me more anxiety! But that’s another topic. Thank you again so much!
 
I go to both, Martha, they are quite different. And are both solely for the worship of God. Of course. And Jesus is present at both

I go depending on which Mass is on where, not because I prefer one over the other.
 
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Yes the Traditional Latin Mass is growing and flourishing. Your description of the TLM as a ‘precious gift’ is apt and we can thank Pope Benedict and Summorum Pontificum. There were attempts to suppress it but you hear talk about ‘one of God’s surprises’ and and SP was certainly that!
 
Martha, here is a thread about praying the Rosary in Mass.

Pay particular attention to the posts of Don Ruggero, Italian Clergy who is now retired and worked on Vatican projects, and is a theology professor, with a Marian (Mary) theology expertise.

Don Ruggero is pre and post VII era also.
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There have been a number of threads on CAF about this before. I could have predicted based on those the response you would get. Back in the pre-Vatican II days, people did frequently say the Rosary during the Latin Mass and this practice was permitted and some Popes even encouraged it, partly because it kept people engaged with the Mass during parts they could not see or understand (due to Mass being in Latin). After Vatican II, saying the Rosary during Mass was discouraged because of the ide…
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Post # 35 or 36 explains the Church’s postition. Thanks to Don Ruggero for taking the time to post it.
 
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There is nothing wrong with saying your rosary at a Latin mass, contrary to popular belief.
 
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Praying a Rosary during Mass Spirituality
There have been a number of threads on CAF about this before. I could have predicted based on those the response you would get. Back in the pre-Vatican II days, people did frequently say the Rosary during the Latin Mass and this practice was permitted and some Popes even encouraged it, partly because it kept people engaged with the Mass during parts they could not see or understand (due to Mass being in Latin). After Vatican II, saying the Rosary during Mass was discouraged because of the ide…
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Post #35/36 about the immaculate victim and the Mass and what we are there for.
 
Of course there are priests who support the practice…

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QUAERITUR: Rosary during Mass

From a reader:Is it okay to say the rosary at Low Mass? My Latin is proficient enough to the point where I've moved beyond having to rely on a missal. What would be the harm of saying a rosary as a meditation on Jesus through Mary? At Dialogue Mass I always stop my rosary when I say the server's
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The truth is I understand what Don Ruggero is defending so zealously. It makes sense that we should focus on the Holy Mass. That’s why I will do my best to learn how to follow but that’s because through Gods grace I have that mental capacity. I’m just thinking about those folks that are perhaps elderly and it will be a challenge for them and perhaps a spiritual hindrance to interrupt what helps them get closer to God. Also for those bringing perhaps autistic or mentally disabled (i speak from family experience) adult children, if their way of participating is reflecting on the Lords life while in church by means of the holy rosary, certainly that is noble.
With regard to EF I wonder if the CCC addresses this.
People otherwise mentally healthy who say the rosary during EF perhaps are doing what also leads them closer, perhaps they tried to follow and can’t fully just yet.
My thinking is no one says the rosary at EF purposely trying to be offensive to those around them and more importantly God who will judge them perfectly according to their capabilities.
I don’t have enough experience with EF to see how much quiet time there is and if during the quiet time you’re supposed to follow the priest or chorus but these are my thoughts.
 
From the link I posted…
But, that said, there is not simply one acceptable manner of active participation at Mass. People can choose now this, now that method. You can follow the texts closely. You can follow commentaries on the parts of Mass, sometimes in hand missals. You can say the Rosary. You can pray according to the four classic points of prayer: glorification of God, prayers of sorrow for sins, petitions, expressions of thanksgiving. You can focus on a sacred image.

Perhaps on this day you will need this method, and on that day some other.
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Bring your Rosary and be at peace.
 
Many (not all) churches with the Extraordinary Form Mass have a little red missals that you use use to pray and follow along the mass.

If they have the booklet… you can use them to follow along and silently pray the mass along with Father.

God Bless
 
You may hold the rosary at mass if you wish, one hopes this is what those ladies in the photos were doing holding it for comfort, I still see people do this at mass nowadays. Though it can send the wrong message I feel, especially to youngsters as it can’t be prayed during mass as mass is a higher form of praise so it takes precedence. You can stay and pray it afterwards of course if you like. I also love to learn here, as I know little about these different forms of mass. Thanks for your post.
 
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There is nothing wrong with saying your rosary at a Latin mass, contrary to popular belief.
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Well… yes & no.

I remember reading a book about the life of St. Therese of Lisieux, written by Dorothy Day. In the book, their was a letter from St. Threses’s mother - St. Zélie Martin.

St. Zélie discussed how she would go to mass TWICE on Sunday. The first time to pray the mass along with the priest. Then, she would stay for the mass right after the first she attended to pray the rosary during mass.

Now, I have no idea if she stayed for the entire second mass (perhaps she prayed other prayers after she finished the rosary), but she was 100% praying the mass during the first mass she attended.

From what I understand, that is the preferred way to participate in the Latin Mass… for us to direct our prayers and attention towards what is going on at the altar.

Additionally, from what I’ve read other places, it was things like “praying the rosary during mass” that pushed the bishops to seek and desire a more “participatory” mass in the first place.

God bless.
 
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That’s interesting, thank you for the information. I was just wondering why didn’t they add it to the CCC but ofcourse the CCC is new. What did the Church have before the Catechism I wonder if the faithful had questions regarding missing Sunday Mass for example. What was referenced? I’m just thinking out loud. Thank you.
 
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That’s interesting, thank you for the information. I was just wondering why didn’t they add it to the CCC but ofcourse the CCC is new. What did the Church have before the Catechism I wonder if the faithful had questions regarding missing Sunday Mass for example. What was referenced? I’m just thinking out loud. Thank you.
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There was always a Catechism before John Paul II’s.

There was a Catechism written after the Council of Trent (often called the Roman Catechism), and there was the “Baltimore Catechism,” a regional/national Catechism written by the American Bishops.

In the US (not sure if other English speaking nations used it), the Baltimore Catechism was primarily used before Vatican II - though some people still use it today.

I think the main difference between John Paul’s “Catechism of the Catholic Church” and the Roman Catechism is that (due to modern technology, modern printing, and using an independent publishing & reseller companies) this new Catechism was able to be marketed directly to the people before the national bishop’s conferences started writing their own versions.

God Bless
 
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Learn something new everyday! I thought the Baltimore catechism was the same as our CCC. I can’t wait to research the differences, that’s so interesting!
Thank you very much for the wealth of information you’ve provided!
 
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Learn something new everyday! I thought the Baltimore catechism was the same as our CCC. I can’t wait to research the differences, that’s so interesting!
Thank you very much for the wealth of information you’ve provided!
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Nope. 🙂

The CCC technically replaced the Roman Catechism.

The “United States Catholic Catechism for Adults” technically replaced the Baltimore Catechism

http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...sm/us-catholic-catechism-for-adults/index.cfm
 
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Thank you. Does the United States Catholic Catechism for Adults contain the same information as the CCC?
 
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