No, it was Abraham who called people to Hajj.So was he calling people to the Hajj?
Indeed, the Bible omits that particular detail, along with many others.The story of Noah in the Bible is different than the one in the Qur’an. Noah, per the Bible, did not lose a child during the flood.
You should accept the one which God revealed and preserved. Obviously.It all goes back to which story should we accept, the first or the second. The second one says that the followers of the first believe things that they do not believe. According to the followers of the first, the second is not mentioned. The Followers of the second claim that it was altered. However, the second book does not go that far and they can give no proof as to when or by whom.
They are the same teachings. That is precisely my point.The teachings of Jesus are not the same as those of Muhammed. The Teachings of Moses are not the same, either. Now, if you hold Muhammed to the most basic concept, that we are here to serve God, we are fine. It is the next set of steps where we run into trouble.
I deleted that post because the question was kind of… not clear.
But essentially, yes, Noah.
don’t you mean the Biblical stories are in the Quran?because we can still know about these people without Muhammad.But then there is Abraham… and he is in the Bible. And his sons, Isaac and Ishmael who were Muslims. And then Jacob and the grandsons of Isaac, like Joseph who was taught the interpretation of dreams.
So many prophets of Islam, and stories of Islam, are in the Bible.
i thought the Quran says it was Muhammad.
No. I meant precisely what I said.don’t you mean the Biblical stories are in the Quran?because we can still know about these people without Muhammad.
No, it was Abraham who called people to Hajj.
Indeed, the Bible omits that particular detail, along with many others.
sometimes it is hard to understand reversed history.No. I meant precisely what I said.
It’s quite obvious, Ralph. Or don’t you know about the faith that Muhammad taught?Sister Amy,
Prove that Isaac and Abraham and all of them followed the faith that Mohammed taught.
Some are, and the Qur’an has an answer to that.If the teachings are the same, why are the food laws different?
Do you not know the teachings of Islam?If the teachings are the same, why does Jesus preach forgiveness to all who harm you and prayer for those who hate you BUT NEVER VIOLENCE AGAINST THEM?
Do you think that the way Abraham viewed the relationship between God and man is different than the way Muslims today view it? How so?Why are there different understandings of the relationship between God and Man?
Conspiracy theories? Do you think that every single word Jesus ever uttered is recorded in the Bible?strange, Jesus mentioned nothing of the like. Ok wait, maybe He did but Christians sided with Jewish corruption against Jesus… the Islamic conspiracy theories never stop amazing me.
Of course I do.yet you don’t, obviously , because both Jews and Christians elevated Allah’s standard when they wrote His words stand forever…actually Allah is below such power and faithfulness and sovereignty it seems but he is deceitful to the point of allowing men to write it, then curse us the gullible who fall for his deceit.
English is my first language.sometimes it is hard to understand reversed history.
He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims. S. 6:163 RodwellinJESUS;4529977 said:Maybe you should re-read it.
Here it says Muhammad is the first of Muslims, doesn’t it?
why? did the Jews have claivoyances and hence decided to attack Muhammad before his birth? and why did’t Jesus expose them?Genesis 6-9 roughly. But like I said, the part about Noah calling to Islam is omitted.
submitting to God means submitting to His Word, not questioning it and hence muslims in this regard are submitters to Muhammad, not God who said He preserves His words thousands and hundreds of years before Muhammad.And the Islam to which I am referring is the Islam with the root letters seen laam meem, the Islam which means submission, submission to God.
."sure, and Jews knew that “muslim” will mean a religion started by a bedouin thousands of years later. All-knowing were these Jews.And if you turn away [from my advice] then no payment have I asked of you. My reward is only from Allah , and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims
good but history is not bound to the English language.English is my first language.
Saheeh International: No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims."He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims. S. 6:163 Rodwell
Here it says Muhammad is the first of Muslims, doesn’t it?
I haven’t the foggiest what you are suggesting.why? did the Jews have claivoyances and hence decided to attack Muhammad before his birth? and why did’t Jesus expose them?
Muslims submit to God, as did Noah, and Abraham, and Jesus. Who would you say Christians submit to? Muslims don’t question God’s word, the uphold it.submitting to God means submitting to His Word, not questioning it and hence muslims in this regard are submitters to Muhammad, not God who said He preserves His words thousands and hundreds of years before Muhammad.
I have no idea what Jews you’re talking about, I didn’t bring them up.sure, and Jews knew that “muslim” will mean a religion started by a bedouin thousands of years later. All-knowing were these Jews.
I am not the one who is having difficulty understanding what I’m saying.good but history is not bound to the English language.
Conspiracy theories? Do you think that every single word Jesus ever uttered is recorded in the Bible?
no, but surely corruption isn’t a light topic, specifically against those who “wanted Jesus dead”, yet Jesus is recorded to says exactly the opposite of what you’re claiming when it comes to the scriptures. So Christians sided with the Jews against Jesus’ teachings it seems, according to your logic.
Of course I do.
I think that inJesus is saying that in order for the story of Noah to have been missing the parts about him saying he is Muslim, the Jews must have known that 1,000 years later, there would be Muhammed and Islam.Saheeh International: No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims."
I haven’t the foggiest what you are suggesting.
Muslims submit to God, as did Noah, and Abraham, and Jesus. Who would you say Christians submit to? Muslims don’t question God’s word, the uphold it.
I have no idea what Jews you’re talking about, I didn’t bring them up.
no, but surely corruption isn’t a light topic, specifically against those who “wanted Jesus dead”, yet Jesus is recorded to says exactly the opposite of what you’re claiming when it comes to the scriptures. So Christians sided with the Jews against Jesus’ teachings it seems, according to your logic.
Who says the Jews deliberately removed those parts?I think that inJesus is saying that in order for the story of Noah to have been missing the parts about him saying he is Muslim, the Jews must have known that 1,000 years later, there would be Muhammed and Islam.