What do Muslim parents teach their children about Christianity?

[inJESUS]

The translator’s, obviously. To prevent people like yourself from drawing the wrong conclusion from that particular ayah.

i didn’t draw conclusions. You said i never read the Quran so i posted the aya which calls Muhammad the first Muslim then you reposted it adding words to the Quran. But if we are to add words, then how come Noah is the first? isn’t it supposed to be Adam?

 

[Jay53]

meedo,
Thank you for your answer. I actually agree with point #3. IMHO Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God the Father. Jews and Muslims just haven’t “met” (I couldn’t think of a better word:shrug God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. I personally don’t think that Jews and Muslims won’t be saved because they haven’t. If they have lived “good” lives (according to God’s standards - not Quran - not to be offensive, but I honestly don’t believe Muhammed received these messages from God through the Angel Gabriel, but that’s a whole other topic ) then when they die they will meet Jesus and have a chance to accept him then.

So, what you’re saying, basically, (issues of the Trinity aside) is that the average Muslim family doesn’t worry about Christianity or “the West” because they have their own family issues to think about? I can see that - there are days I don’t know if I’m coming or going!

Thank you for your answer!

 

[meedo]

meedo,
Thank you for your answer. I actually agree with point #3. IMHO Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God the Father. Jews and Muslims just haven’t “met” (I couldn’t think of a better word:shrug God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. I personally don’t think that Jews and Muslims won’t be saved because they haven’t. If they have lived “good” lives (according to God’s standards - not Quran - not to be offensive, but I honestly don’t believe Muhammed received these messages from God through the Angel Gabriel, but that’s a whole other topic ) then when they die they will meet Jesus and have a chance to accept him then.

So, what you’re saying, basically, (issues of the Trinity aside) is that the average Muslim family doesn’t worry about Christianity or “the West” because they have their own family issues to think about? I can see that - there are days I don’t know if I’m coming or going!

Thank you for your answer!

I have no problem with all the above that you posted. Toi you your faith and to me mine. I have no problem for a christian bowing and praying to jesus , but i have a big problem when the US government intervening recklessly in muslim land with military force causing havoc, death and destruction far beyound any benefit from this intervention ( if benefits exist).

The west hatred thing is a fantasy and a steryotype. at least when it comes to values . however there is western policies and actions that are hated deeply because of the insjutioces that it creates .

 

[swariffin]

Islam is not in the Bible? How do you figure?

Off course, Why do you think that the bible writers talked about Muhammad coming in 600 AD? There is no prophecy about Muhammad anyway.

 

[swariffin]

I have no problem with all the above that you posted. Toi you your faith and to me mine. I have no problem for a christian bowing and praying to jesus , but i have a big problem when the US government intervening recklessly in muslim land with military force causing havoc, death and destruction far beyound any benefit from this intervention ( if benefits exist).

The west hatred thing is a fantasy and a steryotype. at least when it comes to values . however there is western policies and actions that are hated deeply because of the insjutioces that it creates .

If the forum is a political forum, not a Catholic forum, and the topic is about US intervention, I probably at the same side as yours.

 

[Jay53]

In searching for something else, I found this and thought it was a little disturbing:

Let’s also read what the students in Assiut University, Suhag branch, had to study in their book “Basics of Education”:

Christianity hallowed Jesus exactly as the Marxists did.

Christianity, just as Judaism is an Egyptian Judaic concoction.

Christianity is based on Judaism and the latter is not a religion.

Christianity was inoculated with paganism.

Christianity has turned into a pagan religion.

Human fiddling around with Christianity changed it into a mixture of both Judaism and paganism.

The Apostle Paul pretended to be a Christian to distort Christianity.

You can imagine what the children are taught in what are called Islamic schools and also public schools (by the way 22% of the educational system in Egypt is Islamic education set on infusing hatred against followers of other religions calling for their expulsion and eradication). We read in one of the books of the children’s curricula:

A Muslim washes his hands before and after eating.

A Muslim walks quietly and with dignity.

Christians are the misguided.

The only religion accepted by Allah is Islam and no religion other than Islam satisfies Allah.

 

[ralphinal]

In searching for something else, I found this and thought it was a little disturbing:

A little disturbing?

It looks like propaganda at the best, the beginnings of hate speach at the worst

 

[KingAlfred]

I’m curious, I’ve read some statements in these forums that some Muslims think Christians believe in 3 gods since we believe in the Trinity. Is this what the majority of Muslims (not the extremists) teach their children (either at home or in school) about Christianity? And is this why there is so much animosity towards us - they think we are blaspheming their allah? If so, why aren’t the intelligent Muslims who actually understand Christianity and the Trinity correcting this gross misinformation? (I’ve seen the Trinity explained to other Muslim posters on these forums and some of them still don’t seem to get it - are they being deliberately obtuse, or is there something else that I’m not getting?)

Thanks.

I’ve actually wondered what percentage of the Islamic world population is truly ‘peace-loving’ and tolerant. Truthfully, I suspect it isn’t as large as a lot of folks would lead us to believe.

 

[Reuben_J]

I’m curious, I’ve read some statements in these forums that some Muslims think Christians believe in 3 gods since we believe in the Trinity. Is this what the majority of Muslims (not the extremists) teach their children (either at home or in school) about Christianity? And is this why there is so much animosity towards us - they think we are blaspheming their allah? If so, why aren’t the intelligent Muslims who actually understand Christianity and the Trinity correcting this gross misinformation? (I’ve seen the Trinity explained to other Muslim posters on these forums and some of them still don’t seem to get it - are they being deliberately obtuse, or is there something else that I’m not getting?)

Thanks.

Perhaps it is not much difference than what we teach our children about other religions. I know many of us are righteous parents and we would like to disseminate the truth and be fair but many times the urge to promote our own belief especially to the children can transcend all the good intention especially if the other religions are competing or contradicting our very own.

Just my thought - I think Muslims would not want to explain the Trinity correctly even if they understand it. They would still espouse it according to how they think about it and that matters to them. In this sense, Meedo is right. At least he is honest about it. To repeat the explanation of the Trinity correctly as how we Christians do is a religious suicide for Muslims because it will reduce their Quran to nothingness as compared to the light of the Bible. Can’t resent Muslims on why they deny the Trinity unto death.

 

[Jay53]

Perhaps it is not much difference than what we teach our children about other religions. I know many of us are righteous parents and we would like to disseminate the truth and be fair but many times the urge to promote our own belief especially to the children can transcend all the good intention especially if the other religions are competing or contradicting our very own.

Just my thought - I think Muslims would not want to explain the Trinity correctly even if they understand it. They would still espouse it according to how they think about it and that matters to them. In this sense, Meedo is right. At least he is honest about it. To repeat the explanation of the Trinity correctly as how we Christians do is a religious suicide for Muslims because it will reduce their Quran to nothingness as compared to the light of the Bible. Can’t resent Muslims on why they deny the Trinity unto death.

Very true!

 

[athair_siochain]

I guess my question was more of a general “learning about world religions” question. Perhaps it wouldn’t be the parents, but more of a school issue?? And yes, parents discuss other religions with their children - especially when they have questions. I’ve seen protests in Muslim countries on the news where there are signs saying “Death to USA!” and “Death to Bush!” Are children sheltered from these protests? I’m just thinking that naturally curious children would have questions, possibly about Christianity and I just wondered how the average Muslim explains it? (Also, please don’t get into a debate/argument about the war in Iraq - that’s not my intention or focus.) Thanks.

Try a few searches to see what the Jewish children say about Muslims. how do Jewish parents explain the occupation of Palestine

 

[Jay53]

A little disturbing?

It looks like propaganda at the best, the beginnings of hate speach at the worst

Could be. I just found it on my search for something else. The book it talks about might be the only one hidden on a dusty shelf in a storeroom and just brought out to bash the ‘evil Muslims’. Like “Look what they have in the school!” amidst thousands of other non-inflammatory books. I was hoping someone else would be familiar with it or the University - it appeared to be a major university in Egypt.

Anyhow, here’s the author - sorry I should have posted that with the text. I haven’t had a chance to look up anything more about him yet.

Magdi Khalil is an EGYPTIAN Coptic political analyst, researcher, author and Executive Editor of the Egyptian weekly Watani International. He is also a columnist for Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper, London, a writer for several Arabic language newspapers, and a frequent contributor to Middle East broadcast news TV. Mr. Khalil has also published three books and written numerous research papers on citizenship rights, civil society, and the situation of minorities in the Middle East.

 

[Jay53]

Try a few searches to see what the Jewish children say about Muslims. how do Jewish parents explain the occupation of Palestine

That would probably be equally disturbing. You should start a thread.

 

[athair_siochain]

meedo,
Thank you for your answer. I actually agree with point #3. IMHO Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God the Father. Jews and Muslims just haven’t “met” (I couldn’t think of a better word:shrug God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. I personally don’t think that Jews and Muslims won’t be saved because they haven’t. If they have lived “good” lives (according to God’s standards - not Quran - not to be offensive, but I honestly don’t believe Muhammed received these messages from God through the Angel Gabriel, but that’s a whole other topic ) then when they die they will meet Jesus and have a chance to accept him then.

So, what you’re saying, basically, (issues of the Trinity aside) is that the average Muslim family doesn’t worry about Christianity or “the West” because they have their own family issues to think about? I can see that - there are days I don’t know if I’m coming or going!

Thank you for your answer!

jay53 you write verses that are not unlike those written by Zionists. most of your threads have been directed against Muslims, you use threads to abuse Muslims, you are not a Catholic, . must be one of the tens of thousands of Zionist Blog Infiltrators who join up to rubbish Muslims, shame on you,

 

[Jay53]

jay53 you write verses that are not unlike those written by Zionists. most of your threads have been directed against Muslims, you use threads to abuse Muslims, you are not a Catholic, . must be one of the tens of thousands of Zionist Blog Infiltrators who join up to rubbish Muslims, shame on you,

Actually, you are 100% incorrect! I have been a Catholic my whole life and will be until I die. And I am offended by your assumption that most of my threads are against Muslims. This is not the only forum on this website that I visit or participate in, but perhaps you didn’t check that. Shame on you!:tsktsk:

I am actually not “against” anyone. I happen to find being able to converse with Muslims about Islam fascinating - even if I don’t agree with the tenets of the religion. And some of the Muslim posters here have been very gracious and informative.

BTW, I have no idea what a “Zionist Blog Infitrator” is other than something anti-Jewish.

 

[ralphinal]

Actually, you are 100% incorrect! I have been a Catholic my whole life and will be until I die. And I am offended by your assumption that most of my threads are against Muslims. This is not the only forum on this website that I visit or participate in, but perhaps you didn’t check that. Shame on you!:tsktsk:

I am actually not “against” anyone. I happen to find being able to converse with Muslims about Islam fascinating - even if I don’t agree with the tenets of the religion. And some of the Muslim posters here have been very gracious and informative.

BTW, I have no idea what a “Zionist Blog Infitrator” is other than something anti-Jewish.

A Zionist, in the classical definition, is one who supported the formation of the State of Israel no matter the cost or outcome. The movement started in the late 19th century, but was more or less propelled into popular veiw after World War II. You can be Jewish and not be a Zionist, and you can support Israel without being one. Basically, the term is most commonly used today to mean someone who loves the Jews and hates the Palestinians/Muslims.