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True. Sad, but true.They did a bit, yes. But PG now is different than what PG used to be.
True. Sad, but true.They did a bit, yes. But PG now is different than what PG used to be.
Yes, I mean a place where people drink. They may serve snacks as well. Depending on state/country laws, there may be a lot of cigarette smoke. There is often loud music, or in the case of Sports bars, music and a big TV screen showing the game.Um, define bars? I must admit the connotation is different between here and the Philippines. If you mean a place where people drink, yes.
Thanks, I have that idea but I want to make sure we’re on the same page. So yes, I do go there occasionally with coworkers or my friend. I do drink, but I don’t drink to forget. I think there were only a couple of times that I drank so much I got sick and hungover for a day or two. I do know how to control my alcohol and I do love to drink occasionally with company. I hate drinking alone.Yes, I mean a place where people drink. They may serve snacks as well. Depending on state/country laws, there may be a lot of cigarette smoke. There is often loud music, or in the case of Sports bars, music and a big TV screen showing the game.
How’s that?
I am strongly against television. Of course, there are one or two good programs, but you can see them on your computer anyway. That’s why I don’t intend to spend hundreds of dollars buying a TV set when I’ll have my own house.The reason I’m asking these questions is that as an Evangelical, drinking, partying, going to movies, watching TV, etc, were all discouraged. In the reformed church, almost everything was allowed as long as you weren’t hurting yourselves and others. Sort of like the Wiccans say, “an it harm none, do as ye will.”
I’m still trying to get a feel of how conservative Catholics feel about some things. For example, I have seen posts about TV’s not being allowed in some homes. So I thought I’d asked the more conservative Catholics on the board.
I think it 's a fair question from someone converted from an Evangelical background.The reason I’m asking these questions is that as an Evangelical, drinking, partying, going to movies, watching TV, etc, were all discouraged. In the reformed church, almost everything was allowed as long as you weren’t hurting yourselves and others. Sort of like the Wiccans say, “an it harm none, do as ye will.”
I’m still trying to get a feel of how conservative Catholics feel about some things. For example, I have seen posts about TV’s not being allowed in some homes. So I thought I’d asked the more conservative Catholics on the board.
If I’m not mistaken, perhaps someone can confirm this, orthodox Jews dance at weedings, however men and women are segregated. Although I wouldn’t go as far as saying that dancing is a sin (no way every mixed dance could be a sin, check St. Francis of Sales), although some types of dance are certainly very immodest and sinful, I believe that, if true, the Jews have a good solution here!Weddings were a pretty festive thing in the first century and I think there was dancing too.
In Introduction to a Devout Life right? I remember that. He apparently got some flack for that though. In Treatise of the Love of God he mentions how people criticized him because of his comments on dancing. You can’t please them all.If I’m not mistaken, perhaps someone can confirm this, orthodox Jews dance at weedings, however men and women are segregated. Although I wouldn’t go as far as saying that dancing is a sin (no way every mixed dance could be a sin, check St. Francis of Sales), although some types of dance are certainly very immodest and sinful, I believe that, if true, the Jews have a good solution here!
Three or four years afterwards I published the Introduction to a Devout Life, upon the occasion and in the manner which I have put down in the preface thereof: regarding which I have nothing to say to you, my dear reader, save only that though this little book has generally had a gracious and kind acceptance, yes even amongst the most grave prelates and doctors of the Church, yet it did not escape the rude censure of some who did not merely blame me but bitterly attacked me in public because I tell Philothea that dancing is an action indifferent in itself, and that for recreation’s sake one may make quodlibets; and I, knowing the quality of these censors, praise their intention which I think was good. I should have desired them however to please to consider that the first proposition is drawn from the common and true doctrine of the most holy and learned divines, that I was writing for such as live in the world and in courts; that withal I carefully inculcate the extreme dangers which are found in dancing;—and that as to the second proposition it is not mine, but S. Louis’s, that admirable king, a doctor worthy to be followed in the art of rightly conducting courtiers to a devout life. For, I believe if they had weighed this, their charity and discretion would never have permitted their zeal, how vigorous and austere soever, to arm their indignation against me.
Exactly!In Introduction to a Devout Life right? I remember that. He apparently got some flack for that though. In Treatise of the Love of God he mentions how people criticized him because of his comments on dancing. You can’t please them all.
Exactly!
In short: do whatever you please, but don’t sin!![]()
This is totally false. Take the example of food. Why do we eat? Well, the ultimate reason is because we need food to sustain us so we can know, serve and love God. HOWEVER, that purpose does not have to be explicit. One can lawfuly eat without even thinking about the deepest reason of that meal, but rather thinking about how good the food is or how interesting the conversation is being.one should not have fun in any way that does not expressly aim to please God.
There is dancing in the Byzantine Rite wedding for the bride and groom.If I’m not mistaken, perhaps someone can confirm this, orthodox Jews dance at weedings, however men and women are segregated. Although I wouldn’t go as far as saying that dancing is a sin (no way every mixed dance could be a sin, check St. Francis of Sales), although some types of dance are certainly very immodest and sinful, I believe that, if true, the Jews have a good solution here!
BOYCOTT!!!C’mon! It’s not like Billy Joel’s Only the Good Die Young.![]()
Well, we should see God in everyone and in everything we do. Even if you are just cleaning your house or any other mundane task.There was also quite a lively thread on CAF (I can’t remember the name of it), where someone felt that one should not have fun in any way that does not expressly aim to please God.
Does that put limits on us as traditional Catholics on what we are able to do?
Well, given the religious Fiestas we have in the Philippines which date back to the inception of the Church in the country about 500 years ago, yeah, Catholics aren’t opposed to having funI read somewhere else, that traditionally, Catholics have never been really strict about every day practices and that traditional Catholics who disagree with television, or going to the movies, etc are acting more like fundamentalists (protestants).
Does anyone agree with that?