What do you think about Malachi Martin?

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i have read some about him and some of his books. there is a part of me that really likes him but at the same time i do not want to believe a lot of the things he writes about the corruption in the vatican. on the flip side of the coin with all that is going on with the catholic church and the confusion, creating and going through with movements within the church even though they knew it would cause chaos, confusion, conflict and torment of souls.
i cant help but wonder if he was right.
i pray to God he isnt.
i hold on to the verse “and the gates of hell shall not prevail”
 
I read someplace that he is right about 90% of the time. The trick is to not be misled by the other 10%, which is difficult unless you are very learned on the subject he is discussing.

It isn’tthe KOOL-AID that kills you; it’s that trace of cyanide. 😃
 
His books aren’t very reliable or accurate and his theology is faulty. I wouldn’t waste time reading his books. Your time is better spent reading the Holy Bible, the Catechism, or the Lives of the Saints. If you’re interested in exorcism and such things, I would recommend books by Gabriele Amorth, Rome’s chief exorcist and the world’s foremost expert on this subject.
 
I read someplace that he is right about 90% of the time. The trick is to not be misled by the other 10%, which is difficult unless you are very learned on the subject he is discussing.

It isn’tthe KOOL-AID that kills you; it’s that trace of cyanide. 😃
I’m not so sure about the Kool-Aid … I think it was invented by dentists trying to drum up more business … 😃

But yeah, Martin’s writings are based (mostly) on the “real thing” and I’ve read a good deal of them. Can’t put my hand on any of them right now but, while I could well be wrong, something tells me they’re not marketed in the “history” category in the first place. They might be considered “historical novels” where the operative word is novel.
 
The allegation about the satanic ritual performed in the vatican is what shocked me. I read that he did get his information from inside sources so I am inclined to believe it happened. I believe Windswept house delt with this event.
 
The allegation about the satanic ritual performed in the vatican is what shocked me. I read that he did get his information from inside sources so I am inclined to believe it happened. I believe Windswept house delt with this event.
Much of his work is non-fiction (and quite good history), but Windswept House is a novel. I don’t believe he intended to suggest that the enthroning of Satan at the Vatican actually happened.
 
"… Malachi Martin, a scholar, Vatican insider, and best-selling author, said, “Anybody who is acquainted with the state of affairs in the Vatican in the last 35 years is well aware that the prince of darkness has had and still has his surrogates in the court of St. Peter in Rome.”
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 From 1958 until 1964, Jesuit priest Malachi Martin served in Rome where he was a close associate of, and carried out many sensitive missions for the renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea and the pope. Released afterwards from his vows of poverty and obedience at his own request (but still a priest), he ultimately moved to New York and became a best-selling writer of fiction and non-fiction.

 Martin had first made reference to a diabolic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This Blood, in which he wrote:
“Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops’ chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the ‘superforce.’ Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI’s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to ‘the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary’. . . an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia—rites and practices— was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel’s rites.” (p. 632)

These allegations have largely gone unnoticed, possibly because he was so crafty in his descriptions that he might even have been referring to the coronation of Pope Paul VI. But he revealed much more about this alleged ritual in one of his last works, Windswept House: A Vatican Novel (1996). In this story, he vividly described a ceremony called “The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer” supposedly held in St. Paul’s Chapel in the Vatican, but linked with concurrent satanic rites here in the U.S., on June 29, 1963, barely a week after the election of Paul VI. In the novel, before he dies, a pope leaves a secret account of the situation on his desk for the next occupant of the throne of Peter, a thinly-disguised John Paul II.
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  According to The New American, Martin confirmed that the ceremony did indeed occur as he had described. “Oh yes, it is true; very much so,” the magazine reported he said. “But the only way I could put that down into print is in novelistic form.”

  Martin's accusation of a satanic ritual at the Vatican was also confirmed by John Loeffler, host of the Steel on Steel radio show.  Mr. Loeffler personally asked Fr. Malachi Martin (who had been a regular guest on his show) about the reported dedication to satan within the Vatican:
“You know Malachi confirmed—the first part of his book, Windswept House—he confirmed the dedication of the Vatican to satan in a secret ceremony that occurred unknown even to the Pope at that time, that he managed to pick up. And I did ask him, ‘Was this true? Did it happen?’ And he [Fr. Martin] said, ‘yes, it did.’” - John Loeffler (July 29, 2000 radio show)"]

Fr. Malachi Martin said more members of the clergy are becoming aware of the situation. An archbishop several years ago also accused high members of the hierarchy in Rome of practicing satanism. The Italian newspaper Il Tempo and other major daily papers reported this stunning news (Italian newspaper articles).

Windswept House

Windswept House is a sweeping novel, set on the grand global stage and the unfolding of the next stage of civilization, the ominously-named New World Order. It tackles head-on a number of heavy issues from abortion to the Third Secret of Fatima, but the essential message seems to be this: Satanists lurk in the shadows, from the heart of the Vatican down to the local parishes, manipulating those duped by the false spirit of Vatican II. They are doing their damnedest to subvert the Roman Catholic Church.
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 In Windswept House, Martin was quite explicit about the conditions in the Vatican, opening the novel with the above-mentioned satanic ritual. In it, Satan was formally enthroned in the Vatican in the Chapel of St. Paul (by all reports a dark and appropriately spooky place). The ceremony was coordinated via telephone with another simultaneous rite in South Carolina.

 But these are minor quibbles. Like The Keys of This Blood, Windswept House is written for a wide and not necessarily Catholic audience, but both books give an odd feeling of being intended for John Paul II himself. It’s as if Keys was written to show the Pope that Martin understood what the Pontiff was doing in the geopolitical arena and address his concerns for the Church’s internal situation. (One may be reminded of Machiavelli’s The Prince, written also by a courtier exiled from court.) Windswept House, however, is a much more dramatic and desperate plea to the Pope. "
tldm.org/news/martin.htm
 
Its all rubbish and anyone who believes Satanic rituals have taken place in the Vatican is a fool.
 
Have you read Fr. Malachi Martin’s books’? I have.

I have heard Fr. Malachi Martin verify the statement attributed to him myself.

priestsofdarkness.com/martin.html

"…Did the Pope Say the Smoke of Satan has Entered the Church?

It’s only in Italian on the Vatican website, but it’s definitely there and Pope Paul VI said it:"

“…Il fumo di Satana nel tempio di Dio”

Pope Paul VI, June 29, 1972, Homily during the Mass for Sts. Peter & Paul, on the occasion of the ninth anniversary of his coronation

vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/homilies/1972/documents/hf_p-vi_hom_19720629_it.html

greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Azmn
 
I have no opinion on whether Satanic acts may have been done by some renegades in the Vatican. Regardless of whether any such things happened, it does not mean that Satan has won or that Satan has prevailed.

Satan is a clever and powerful adversary and it would not be beyond him to put his agents into positions of power within the Church. Just because the US is the most powerful country on earth does not mean there are no spies in high government positions.

The Church has gone through tough times before and it has always prevailed. As long as Christ is with us, Satan will always lose. There was a time when there were 2 or 3 popes at the same time, some popes were puppets of rich or powerful leaders, but in spite of all that, the Church has still prevailed. Christ’s Church has survived poor or corrupt leadership, it will continue to survive even some alleged nutcases in its hierarchy.
 
Have you read Fr. Malachi Martin’s books’? I have.

I have heard Fr. Malachi Martin verify the statement attributed to him myself.

priestsofdarkness.com/martin.html

"…Did the Pope Say the Smoke of Satan has Entered the Church?

It’s only in Italian on the Vatican website, but it’s definitely there and Pope Paul VI said it:"

“…Il fumo di Satana nel tempio di Dio”

Pope Paul VI, June 29, 1972, Homily during the Mass for Sts. Peter & Paul, on the occasion of the ninth anniversary of his coronation

vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/homilies/1972/documents/hf_p-vi_hom_19720629_it.html

greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Azmn
Riferendosi alla situazione della Chiesa di oggi, il Santo Padre afferma di avere la sensazione che «da qualche fessura sia entrato il fumo di Satana nel tempio di Dio».
The translation is that “Concerning the Church today you get the feeling that some crack has allowed the smoke of satan into the temple of God”

The homily goes on to site the confusion arising and that “many who do not trust the Church will trust the first profane prophet who arises and to ask him [this prophet] if he has the formula to true life”

It seems to me that Pope Paul VI is talking about those who would use modernity as a weapon against the church and to classify the church as primitive. The overall tone of the homily is quite similar to sections of Adversus haereses ‘Against Heresies’ by St. Irenaeus of Lyons.

My :twocents:

Bryan
 
My opinion. Fr. Martin was at one time quite a liberal. He saw that there was a fairly untapped market among conspiracy theorists, and Uber-Traditionalists and started writing his novels for that market.

Before anyone starts shaking me down, I assist at the Extraordinary form of the Mass, I’ve met extremests and conspiracy theorists from both ends of the spectrum, and don’t want to paint mainline Catholics, (Ordinary or Extraordinary nor Eastern Rites) with one broad brush. But each has some strange people who hang onto the fringe, and take Fr. Martin, or any of the hundreds of non-approved “Seers” visions and locutions as more credible than the Sacred Scriptures or Sacred Tradition. There are quite a few stories that I could tell.
 
This brilliant Jeusuit priest and vatican insider is still today being attacked on all sides by many who know nothing about him. He held numerous doctorates and knew 12 languages. If you would like to learn more about him and hear what was going on in the church during the years post vatican ll there is a series of tapes done with the Canadian Bernard Janzen with Fr Martin in the 90’s. Some of these have been made into book format. His incredible knowledge of the church, history and world affairs were unsurpassed. Just listening to these (tapes) now cd’s will open the eyes of anyone interested in learning the truth.
They can be ordered from Triumph Communications and are worth every penny.
Listen to him actually speak instead of basing judgments on his books and novels which were written for a variety of reasons not understood by many.

triumphcommunications.net/mmartin.html
 
I can’t think of many other deceased persons (and a priest, no less), that I have noticed, for who so much disdain and disrespect has been poured out shamelessly by many Catholics. The man is dead. God has judged him. He is now in his eternal reward, whatever form that may be. Pray for his soul. May God rest it.
 
“Throughout the ages, there have been so-called “private” revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.” (*Catechism of the Catholic Church *no. 67)

Take him as you would any other teacher, depending on if you think he helps you grow spiritually. As far as his prophecies are concerned, I have always found it most prudent to live in the present, not the past and not the future.
 
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