What do you think scripture says about Mary?

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Solo Christo:
You will pray that God sends the Holy Spirit to me?! Are you saying I do not have the Holy Spirit already in me?! Are you accusing me of not being a Christian?! Do not ever judge me like that again. That has to be the proudest post yet.

Who is “His Church”? Are you claiming that the Catholic Church is the only church that is going to be saved? The only one that is actually His Church?

Please do not ever judge me again or any other churches that are not Catholic. That judgment is not backed up by the words of Christ; therefore sin.
Solo…you need to calm down.
I am sure that no one here meant that the way you took it and we also do not appreciate your allegations of sin. You have a very scant and misguided concept of the Catholic Church though I realize that you think you’re “armed to the teeth” and all set to set us straight, even though you come in here not really understanding what you are talking about. This I can also tell from your butchered forms of Latin in your posts.

The doctrines that you espouse are merely man made stuff from some 487 years ago and not the teachings of the early church. It’s fine by us if you wanna believe them, but they’ve been answered again and again, though only a few of your fellow Protestants listen very well. A very great many of the things that you allege are answered on this very homepage and so we really shouldn’t have to get all into them again with you in here. There are probably a truck load of very good books by good Catholic scholars that we can recommend to you IF you are willing to invest in that much of a serious study. If, however, you are just here to convert us and show us “the error of our ways”, I’d say you’re probably wasting your time and should find a good JW forum and try them.
Pax vobiscum
 
Mary fulfilled her God chosen purpose which was to give birth to the redeemer. When she was done she dropped out of the picture. Christ redeemed; she stood by in confusion. She takes no credit; if she does Christ died in vain.
 
Solo Christo:
Mary fulfilled her God chosen purpose which was to give birth to the redeemer. When she was done she dropped out of the picture. Christ redeemed; she stood by in confusion. She takes no credit; if she does Christ died in vain.
You are being obtuse and refusing to even consider anything we have shown you. You hold that YOUR personal interp of the Bible is the correct on because you think that it interps itself. You TWIST, yes twist every answer we give you and accuse us of idolatry.
I do not “disqualify” anyone. Christ said He would inspire the apostles to write “Scripture”
and if some didn’t write then it was not in God’s plan to do so.
You have no way to prove that because NOWHERE in the NT did Jesus tell anyone to write anything. Jesus came and founded His church…not a book. you don’t even know what the Bible says yourself…how can you preach to us??

You accuse us of pride? Yet we have attempted to be humble in our answers, but because we don’t just fold up and rush into your church for salvation you berate and castigate us. You agreed to be respectful of our faith when you came in this forum, (if you read the rules), and frankly if any of us had posted similar stuff on any of your non-Catholic websites…(or less…I’ve been booted for very politely and calmly presenting answers to discussions of the Catholic Church when they posted stuff that was wrong) we’d be banned before we could hit enter on our second post. I suggest that you take a break and reconsider your reasons for being here and if you feel that we aren’t listening…maybe it’s time to dust off your feet and get somewhere else.

I’m sorry we can’t have a decent discussion with you like we do with some of the folks that come in here. Oh well…
Pax vobiscum
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They don’t see the forest for the trees. God uses Scripture to reveal himself to us - Yet they spend so much effort looking at passages saying, “Nope, God wasn’t in that place, or hardly there, or there”, and also, “Nope, they’re not really Christian, neither are they…”. Once they realize that their post calling me a “common day Catholic” was not an insult to me, they will have finally found the God that they are making to be so elusive.

Also:

I really question your judgement when you imply we are worshiping anyone other than the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

I really question your judgment when you belittle motherhood, and especially when you belittle Jesus’ mother, who, incidentally, carries the title Mother of God.
 
They don’t see the forest for the trees. God uses Scripture to reveal Himself to us - Yet they spend so much effort looking at passages saying, “nope, God wasn’t in that place, or hardly there, or there”, and also, “Nope, they’re not really Christian, neither are they…”. Once they realize that their post calling me a “common day Catholic” was not an insult to me, they will have finally found the God that they are making to be so elusive.

Also:

I really question your judgement when you try to tell me I am worshipping anyone other than the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I really question your judgement when you belittle motherhood, especially when you belittle Jesus’ mother, who carries the title Mother of God without your blessing.
 
Solo Christo:
She is not a virgin or I should say is not a virgin anymore. She had other kids, unless you claim those where conceived by the Holy Spirit and are part God. So she is not a “Blessed Virgin” anymore, so please do not use that title again.

Big misunderstanding; Mary is dead she will rise just like it is said every other believer will rise from the dead. If you would understand that the seed is the seed of Eve basically mankind and the children are the children of Christ which is the Church. Mary did not establish the Church but Christ did.
Not even novice anti-Catholics can get much mileage out of Mary having other children. Nowhere in scripture does it say that Mary had other children outside of those given to her by Jesus Christ. Jn 19:26-27 And Jesus did not die alone.

Solo Christo is confusing me. So you are saying that the seed that crushed the serpent’s head is mankind? “He will crush your head” and that we are children of Christ?

The Church is the Bride of Christ and we are children of God the Father. Rev 22:17 & Mt 6:9

Suffice it to say that most Catholics believe that Blessed Mary is our spiritual mother. One doesn’t need to pray for Blessed Mary’s intersession to go to heaven.

I threw down the Mariolatry Gauntlet in front of one of my Catholic friends once two years ago. Mary played no role in my personal conversion story. Like Solo Christo I saw the inherent danger with elevating a created being. I left my friend’s house believing that at least in this issue he was lost.

I did respect my friend so I prayed about it and did some study. It wasn’t until studying scripture with a Baptist pastor that I actually began seeing things. What he was saying wasn’t adding up. It was his problems with Mary and the way he seemed to attack her honor that troubled my heart. When man begins dishonoring woman he reveals his nature.

We honor Mary like we would our earthly mother. I carry a picture of my “earthly” mother in my wallet. Does this mean that I’m committing idolatry? Would it make any difference if she were no longer living on this earth? I would still talk to my mom and ask her to pray for me even if she were “dead.” The communion of the saints was established as creed during the first century of the Church. Please see Heb 12:1

Who is Solo Christo defending? Who is Solo Christo attacking?

Solo Christo stated that “Mary is no longer the mother of Christ because Christ no longer needs a mother.” I’m not sure how to respond to this. Hopefully his/her mother will never see this because Solo Christo has dishonored all mothers with this statement. My mother is my mother whether I need her or not. Jesus can’t sin, so he will always honor his mother. To deny his mother, Jesus would be denying his humanity and himself.

Let us recall the terms that Solo Christo used in describing Mary, “mere woman”, “instrument”, “whose sole purpose was to give birth.” Please find these names or terms applied to Mary in the scriptures, (clue: “Handmaid” is not one of them)

You see there is a term in scripture that describes the type of woman that Solo Christo is talking about. Solo Christo is basically referring to the Blessed Mary as God’s concubine.

What is intimacy which brings forth a child out of wedlock called?

Solo Christo please read Mt 12:31 before responding.

“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
 
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BayCityRickL:
When posters say that Jesus was certainly sinless we all agree, but even the Savior took on Himself the guilt of all of our sins. He took on our shame.

Elsewhere others have made comments about the smelly place he was born, contrasting that to the sinfulness into which He was born.

I don’t want to truly go negative here, but there’s something that nobody ever talks about. Even if Mary was born sinless and remained sinless, what does that mean to us? Catholics make this ‘point’ that in itself creates and generates so much conflict with other Christians, I wonder if it’s really worth it? It may be a devout legend and tradition, but it has become regarded as dogma (you have to believe it) which drives this big wedge between us and other believers.

When Jesus said “teach all that I have commanded” I wonder if the Church has gone too far beyond teaching what God has commanded? Why is it essential to salvation to believe that Mary was immaculately conceived? The test that my mind conjures up, is whether the ‘good thief’ on the cross had to believe in Mary’s immaculate conception? No evidence of that. But, our Lord said that he would be that day in Paradise.

And, then, too, there’s the same bunch of questions about Mary’s perpetual virginity. Seriously…who cares? Even if she was perpetually virgin, so are a lot of women AND men!! Mary’s virginity does not seem to be anybody’s business, as far as I can tell. Do these beliefs about Mary embellish or enhance our salvation in any way?

The Church has retired Jan 1 as a celebration of Jesus’ circumcision. Now, that was important in Jewish life. Why has that fallen to the wayside, as long as we’re talking about things below the waist? That ritual of Jewish initiation has been sanitized to the “Presentation of our Lord in the Temple.”
All,

We miss a key important point very often when discussing the dogmas about Mary. Mainly that all of the Marian dogmas are meant to teach us something about the CHRIST. From theotokos to Immaculate Conception (in historical perspective), all of the Marian doctrines are in fact teaching about who CHRIST was and is. Consider:

The dogma that Mary is the Mother of God.

This dogma is intended to teach us that one cannot separate the person of CHRIST.

The dogma that Mary was Assumed into heaven.

This dogma teaches us that the resurrection from the dead of all believers is real and not an alegory or typological consideration

The dogma that Mary was Immaculately Conceived

This dogma teaches us that Christ is the new covenant. The fulfillment of the promise to Adam and the Jewish people. The new law, the fulfillment of the promise to the prophets of the Old Testament.

All of the Marian dogmas are ultimately teachings about who Christ is in relation to humanity. To deny them is to deny core Catholic teachings about Christ.
 
Solo Christo:
You will pray that God sends the Holy Spirit to me?! Are you saying I do not have the Holy Spirit already in me?! Are you accusing me of not being a Christian?! Do not ever judge me like that again. That has to be the proudest post yet.

Who is “His Church”? Are you claiming that the Catholic Church is the only church that is going to be saved? The only one that is actually His Church?

Please do not ever judge me again or any other churches that are not Catholic. That judgment is not backed up by the words of Christ; therefore sin.
Solo Cristo,I am not saying you aren’t Christian,I am not judging you.I don’t presume that non-catholics will not be saved.You on the other hand have accused us of idolatry,that is a judgement against us which is a false one.All of the wonderful things about Mary comes from God.You are belittling God when you act like He would treat His Mother like a throw away.GOD IS LOVE!On a common sense level you are projecting your own thoughts about God into scripture.You remember the wrath of God the judgement of God,but you forget the LOVE and MERCY.To treat His Mother in such a manner as you describe would not be loving or merciful it would be contrary to the nature of God.God Bless and calm down
 
Solo Christo:
I will defend for YuRa:

I totally agree with you that we are saved by Gods grace. The thing I disagree on is the point of justification and I see the disagreement is inter-Catholic also. Let me give you an example.

So when is the point of justification? When we “finished the good fight” and meet the Lord in Heaven? No, justification happens at the instant of faith. Sanctification is finished in Heaven. I have just come to realize that; there is where we do not agree. The Catholic position redefines terms like sanctification and righteousness.
Solo,

It would be helpful if you would read scripture and the Catechism of the Catholic Church before you make erroneous comments like the above. Please note that your contention that sanctification occurs in heaven is directly refuted in scripture. While there are many verses in scripture that deny your contention on sanctification my favorite happens to be 1 Corinthians 6:11 where it says, "And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Now I would like you to prove from scripture and the Catechism of the Catholic Church just how the Church has redefined sanctification and righteousness.
Solo Christo:
About Mary.

That is not correct. The verse implies she had the righteousness of Christ and therefore was righteous. Catholic position just does not believe all have sinned, like the Bible says (yes Christ was an exception because He is God not man; unless you claim Mary to be God she has sinned also). No person has ever lived on the earth without sin. If they did Christ died in vain. Let it never be.
You made a statement that is not supported by the text. Please perform an exegesis of Luke 1:6 where it says, “And they were both righteous before God, **walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.” ** Show me by an exegesis of this verse and show me where it says that they sinned. If you wish to add context from surrounding verses please feel free to do so. If you cannot show your contention to be true, then please give it up.

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Solo Christo:
Where do you get that she had the Holy Spirit in her? I would hope Elizabeth puts Mary ahead of herself; ithat not what Christ calls us to do for our brothers? Y’know like we are all supposed to do. Mary was ahead of Elizabeth because she had the Savior in her womb. This means Mary was righteous also; Mary was saved. Mary calls Christ her savior. If she never sinned she would not need a Savior./QUOTE]

Have you ever read Luke Chapter 1? We know that Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit when she said these things because in Luke 1:41-43 it says, "and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Solo Christo:
Are you saying Mary was conceived by the Holy Spirit and is therefore part God? Let it never be; Scripture is clear One was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Therefore only One was free of original sin; that was Christ who paid the penalty for sin. Which all man committed. If others were free of sin (original or personal) they could therefore die on the cross also; meaning Christ died in vain. Let it never be.
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No one is saying that Mary was conceived by the Holy Spirit and is therefore part of God. This is so absurd that it really doesn’t deserve a response. We make the claim for Mary’s sinlessness and protection from original sin on the basis of the merits of her son Jesus. Now please take a deep breath and relax. Think about what I am going to say next. All of the OT Jews that are currently in heaven were saved in anticipation of Christ’s once and for all sacrifice. This is why we read in 1 Peter 3:19 that Jesus upon His death went and preached to the spirits in prison. This is a reference to the OT faithful that could not enter heaven until Jesus opened the gates through his death on the cross. Because eternity is outside of time, Jesus sacrifice saves both those who lived before and those who lived after his death on the cross. Mary’s justification and sanctification is simply more special than yours or mine. She still needed a savior, and she was saved at the moment of her conception and was thereby made by God “full of grace.”

Now most Christians believe that John the Baptist was saved before his birth. This is evidenced by Luke 1:15 where it says, " and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb" and reinforced by Luke 1:41. Do you not see the great work of God in all of this? Isn’t it fitting that the woman that brought the savior into the world would be freed from original sin by God because she would bear Jesus in her womb? Isn’t it fitting that she be made this way by God as a fitting offset to the woman Eve who brought sin into the world? Is your version more holy and heavenly and reflective of God’s power and glory? I don’t think so. Does your version take all the scriptures into account and integrate them into what you believe as ours does? I don’t think so.
Solo Christo:
But neither Eve nor Mary should be idolatrized for that is sin.
We do not idolize Mary or any person. We worship the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We honor Mary and the Saints but we reserve Godly worship for God. You merely make an empty accusation, and a shameful one at that.
 
Solo Christo:
You will pray that God sends the Holy Spirit to me?! Are you saying I do not have the Holy Spirit already in me?! Are you accusing me of not being a Christian?! Do not ever judge me like that again. That has to be the proudest post yet.

Who is “His Church”? Are you claiming that the Catholic Church is the only church that is going to be saved? The only one that is actually His Church?

Please do not ever judge me again or any other churches that are not Catholic. That judgment is not backed up by the words of Christ; therefore sin.
It is clear from this post that you need to read other posts more clearly. You also need to research the teachings of the Catholic Church better before you attempt to define them, strike that, miss-define them. You also appear to use a double standard at times.

You are new here but given time to learn I am sure you will become a great poster. You express your thoughts well you just haven’t mastered Catholic teachings or how to read some of the posts here.

Is it OK with you if I wish to say Go in Gods peace? I mean no dissrespect by it and I’m not claiming you don’t have Spiritus Sancti in you or that you’re not a Christain or that you won’t be saved someday with us devout Christians here inside His Church, His body. Please take it as a sign of Love from one Christian to another brother in Christ.

God bless and go in Gods peace,:love:
 
As most of you can tell I have kind of taken a break from the forum. I need to study, like some of you already claimed, so I know what Catholics actually believe. But I have a question for Pax you wrote:
Please perform an exegesis of Luke 1:6 where it says, “And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.” Show me by an exegesis of this verse and show me where it says that they sinned.
Before I answer that I would like to here from you. The text is clear, they were righteous and as a result walked in the commandments and were blameless. So my question is: Why were they righteous and whose righteousness do they carry? Then also answer: What does it mean to have Christ’s righteousness imputed on us, meaning what does God see when He looks at us? Now if you answer my 2 questions correctly you will answer your own question at the same time.
 
Also Pax:
Please note that your contention that sanctification occurs in heaven is directly refuted in scripture. While there are many verses in scripture that deny your contention on sanctification my favorite happens to be 1 Corinthians 6:11 where it says, "And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified,
you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Sanctification is a process on earth which will get finished in Heaven. So do you claim to be fully sanctified right now as a believer? I will post more later.
 
Solo Christo:
As most of you can tell I have kind of taken a break from the forum. I need to study, like some of you already claimed, so I know what Catholics actually believe. But I have a question for Pax you wrote:

Before I answer that I would like to here from you. The text is clear, they were righteous and as a result walked in the commandments and were blameless. So my question is: Why were they righteous and whose righteousness do they carry? Then also answer: What does it mean to have Christ’s righteousness imputed on us, meaning what does God see when He looks at us? Now if you answer my 2 questions correctly you will answer your own question at the same time.
Solo,

The text does not say “they were righteous **and as a result ** walked in the commandments and were blameless. I have already stated in an earlier post that they walked blameless in all the commandments and ordinances of God by his grace. I can also tell you that all of the saved whether it be members of the OT or those of us living since that time, have all been reconciled to God through the merits of Jesus Christ on the Cross. I will also tell you that all of the OT figures are saved by Christ’s sacrifice in an anticipatory fashion. Likewise Mary the Mother of Jesus receives an anticipatory saving from original sin and walked blameless by a special privelege extended by the grace of God. I can also tell you that virtually all Christians recognize that John the Baptist was also saved in a unique way. Most Christians believe that John the Baptist was saved while in his mother’s womb. This is best evidenced by Luke 1:15 where it says " and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb”
and by verse 41 where it says, “the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.” Non-Catholics don’t read the gospel of Luke the same way Catholics do. We see how fitting it is that Mary would be conceived without original sin as a special privilege of saving grace by Jesus who created her.

Your second question is fine as far as it goes. Unfortunately, your understanding of righteousness is incomplete. Righteousness is not merely imputed. Catholics accept this forensic dimension of justification, but we also recognize that we are indeed made righteous. Righteousness is infused. It is just as Isaiah says in 55:11, “…so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and prosper in the thing for which I sent it.” God’s grace goes out in power. When God says something it happens. When he said, “let there be light there was light” and when he sent His word it became “flesh” in Jesus. When God says that we are His children we look to 1 John 3:1 and embrace the words that say, “SEE WHAT love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are.”

So when we are justified we are “made righteous,” and everything is a new creation. We are to walk in the light and we are to put on Christ and to live like Jesus Christ. Our works are important because they are nothing less than the work of the Father’s hands in our hearts, minds, souls, and bodies.

I hope this helps.
 
Solo Christo:
Also Pax:

Sanctification is a process on earth which will get finished in Heaven. So do you claim to be fully sanctified right now as a believer? I will post more later.
I find your thinking faulty at least by the words of scripture, the teachings of most non-Catholics, and the teachings of the Catholic Church.

However, I will say this; your understanding may be closer to Catholic teaching than it is to most Protestant teaching. Sanctification is indeed a process. Protestants and Catholic agree that sanctification does occur in the Christian’s life of earth as part of God’s plan for us. Protestants generally stop there. Catholics, on the other hand, recognize the very point that you are making. Hebrews 12:22-23 says, "…you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to **the spirits of just men made perfect, ** Furthermore, Revelation 21:27 says that "nothing unclean will enter it[heaven].

Based on this you and I can easily agree that there is a necessity for what might be reasonably be called “a final sanctification.” This, however, does not occur in heaven. Nothing unclean can enter heaven. Therefore, our final sanctification must be accomplished prior to entering heaven. Catholics realize that most of us cannot be fully sanctified and free from all attachment to sin while we are still on earth. In Catholic terms our final sanctification occurs between heaven and earth. This final cleansing or purgation from all attachment to sin is referred to as purgatory. This experience is best described by Paul in 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 where it says, “Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw–each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” There are other verses in scripture that point to this as well. Among my favorites is Isaiah when he is given a heavenly vision and looks upon the thrown of God. In Isaiah 6:5-7 the prophet says, " And I said: “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts!” Then flew one of the seraphim to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin is forgiven."

We do not know if this final sanctification is instantaneous nor do we know more about it than described by Paul and perhaps Isaiah. It is conceivable that there is some duration associated with this cleansing but it is not clear. C.S. Lewis wrote a book called “The Great Divorce.” It is an imaginative view of heaven, hell, and purgatory. Lewis, a non-Catholic and well respected by most Christians, accepted the teaching of purgatory. It certainly fits with scripture and is the best explanation for final sanctification.

I hope from our discussions that you will at least take away a couple of things. The most important thing to remember is that Catholic teaching attributes everything to God’s grace. We accomplish nothing on our own. Without faith and God’s grace we cannot lift ourselves out of sin and we cannot please God. We do not teach works righteousness. The Catholic Church condemned works righteousness, which was known as “Pelagianism” in the fourth century, and reiterated the condemnation at the Council of Trent. When we speak of Mary’s sinlessness we do so in light of God’s mercy, love, and grace. Mary is a creature like you and I. The difference is that she is the mother of Jesus Christ. She has been graced by God in unique ways that no other human being will ever experience and scripture shows this to be true.
 
Solo,

Something else you might be interested in thinking about. In the NT the terms “sanctification” and “justification” are both used in the past, present, and the future tenses as they pertain to Christians. I can give the scriptural verses that demonstrate this if necessary.
 
The only word I can find that describes the utter disrespect shown to Blessed Mary the mother of God on this thread by some, is, well - “protestant”.😦

Blessed Mary said yes, she was the ark that carried our Messiah, she was chosen by God amongst all women, she raised our Lord, she was favored by God. She commanded Jesus to perform His first miracle and He obeyed her by making wine. Scripture says she shall be called Blessed by all generations. Her name is in Sacred Scripture ours is not. Who are we to belittle His mother?

Pray to Blessed Mary or don’t. Honor her or don’t. Venerate her or don’t. Thank her for her sacrifice or don’t. But please don’t drag her good name through the mud to discredit the Church her Son established in 33 A.D.

Go in Gods peace,
 
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Malachi4U:
The only word I can find that describes the utter disrespect shown to Blessed Mary the mother of God on this thread by some, is, well - “protestant”.😦

Blessed Mary said yes, she was the ark that carried our Messiah, she was chosen by God amongst all women, she raised our Lord, she was favored by God. She commanded Jesus to perform His first miracle and He obeyed her by making wine. Scripture says she shall be called Blessed by all generations. Her name is in Sacred Scripture ours is not. Who are we to belittle His mother?

Pray to Blessed Mary or don’t. Honor her or don’t. Venerate her or don’t. Thank her for her sacrifice or don’t. But please don’t drag her good name through the mud to discredit the Church her Son established in 33 A.D.

Go in Gods peace,
Well said Malachi4u
 
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Malachi4U:
The only word I can find that describes the utter disrespect shown to Blessed Mary the mother of God on this thread by some, is, well - “protestant”.😦

Blessed Mary said yes, she was the ark that carried our Messiah, she was chosen by God amongst all women, she raised our Lord, she was favored by God. She commanded Jesus to perform His first miracle and He obeyed her by making wine. Scripture says she shall be called Blessed by all generations. Her name is in Sacred Scripture ours is not. Who are we to belittle His mother?

Pray to Blessed Mary or don’t. Honor her or don’t. Venerate her or don’t. Thank her for her sacrifice or don’t. But please don’t drag her good name through the mud to discredit the Church her Son established in 33 A.D.

Go in Gods peace,
Thankyou Malichi4U,thankyou for that post.I started this thread in defense of Our Blessed Mother and comments on another post that were negative,I wanted the posters to show the beauty and special gift God was giving us in her.Sadly,again she has been marginalised and insulted,which is an insult to God although I really don’t think the poster realises it.We all need to pray for these posters because surely they don’t know what they say about Mary, and about the nature of God himself.God Bless
 
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