What does CAF think of Fr Ripperger?

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In one of his talks he said husbands should find second jobs
 
Not possible with this line of work. He works 12-16 hours a day. Not to mention it’s the sort of work where it’s very unstable, he could never have any kind of scheduled work around it. shrug

I just think it’s quite easy to look and make grand statements about what husband and wives should or shouldn’t do but it’s a bit more complicated when you hit real life.
 
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MagdalenaRita said:
I agree it is not the same as contraceptives and yes they may conceive at certain points. Many women use NFP to obtain pregnancy but the abuse happens when it is used ongoing to continually prevent pregnancy without reason, thus then not being open to life.
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So a couple would agree to abstain for no reason at all.

Does that sound likely?
 
This is the very reason I’ve asked my husband to find a new job. His current job keeps him away from the home 24 days of the month. He’s home 5 days, then he’s gone again. He works 12-16 hour days, often in other provinces so our schedules don’t match enough to even talk on the phone. Right now, as single people, we make it work but when a child comes I want that child to have time with him so I’ve asked him to consider giving up his career and his dream (a big ask, and if he decides not to I won’t hold it against him) so he can be with his child.

I question the mentality that children only need their mothers. Children absolutely need their fathers too and how much of their father can they have if dad is working two jobs and is tired and probably sleeping when he gets home.

I often think advice like is given by this particular priest should never be taken too seriously. It’s obvious this is ‘in a perfect world’ advice but we don’t live in a perfect world. So we do the best we can with what we’re given.
 
Yes, is child raising the SOLE responsibility of the mother? Did St Joseph never spend anytime with Our Lord as a child? I very much doubt that.
 
“Grave reasons” are actually not the requirements for using NFP per HV. “Well grounded” and “just” would be more correct terms (just is the term used in the Catechism). That NFP can only be used for “grave” reasons results from a poorly translated version of the document that for some reasons, even though the Vatican has released better translations, is still used widely in the US today.

The NC News Service made the Pauline edition translation for quick publication in the Vatican’s L’Osservatore Romano newspaper when HV was promulgated. This very first version in English is still the most widely published and used in the United States, despite the later emergence of better translations which are based on the Latin, including one published by the Vatican. The Pauline edition relies heavily on Italian to English cognates and it copies the Italian sentence arrangement without proper regard for English structures. While it adequately presents the Church’s teaching against contraceptive use, it inaccurately communicates the Church’s teaching on periodic abstinence.

 
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Thank you for sharing. I need to bookmark this article. I knew that there was discrepancy about the translation of “grave”, and this article lays it out quite nicely.
 
In short, just reason suffices and just reason can include a desire to space children in such a manner that the parents’ financial, physical, and emotional resources are not overtaxed. Those who maintain that only life-or-death reasons suffice to use NFP are obliged to demonstrate from Church documentation where the Church has required that.

http://chastity.com/question/must-a-couple-have-grave-reason-to-use-nfp
 
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Thank you for the article. It was good. I removed my comment from earlier this morning because it was a quick answer while on the run but as far as that conversation went that day, there were quite a lot of posts and comments and I believe I tried to explain myself, as best I could but not everything when typed up on the internet comes out as clear as one would like and the article as far as I can tell has a better explanation that I could give, and one that, again, as far as I could tell, without reading the whole thing, I would agree with.
There will probably be someone who will pick a sentence out of this post also and make a question out of it but I think I have had my share of comments regarding this subject and am taking a break from it. Debating is not my strong point.

God bless and thank you again for the article.
 
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SacredHeartBassist said:
Ive been listening to him on YouTube. His channel, sensusfidelium, has all of his talks. I like a lot of what he says but some of what he says troubles me especially his views on NFP and music and the marital debt. What does CAF think of him?
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I don’t think anyone has commented on this term: the marital debt. I personally have never heard this term, nor the term “bed and board” and I can well believe that the Church quit talking about this stuff after Vatican II. I listened to one of his talks today and it is thought-provoking to say the least!
 
Funny how I’ve never heard nor read of the “marital debt” before - - including the pre-marriage counseling that the Church does.

So, does this really exist, or did it used to exist before Vatican II, and it exists no longer?
 
It still exists. It’s something I have a problem with too because I don’t believe a spouse is owed sex
 
I read some of his work yesterday. I like it somewhat. He has some good points. I find a lot of his references dated though, which makes application of teaching on many modern points a little iffy. But if I ever needed an exorcist in Denver, he would be the go-to guy.
 
If Father is so humble, why is he condemning women he’s never even met as mortal sinners for simply using a daycare or working? Sounds like pride to me.
 
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larsont7 said:
I’d tread lightly, however, about speaking ill of a priest on a Catholic forum.
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:roll_eyes: Catholics aren’t obliged to treat priests the way North Koreans treat Kim Jong Un. You’re allowed to be critical of priests.

Forgive me for the assumption, but I also think you’d be less the picture of indignant clericalism if the subject were a “liberal” priest like James Martin.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Don Ruggero is a clergy member, a professor in theology, a specialist in Marian theology , and European…
Anything he has published and that he wanted to share is linked here.
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He had a fascinating way of offering some of the most intelligent posts on here; while simultaneously being one of the humans least equipped for handling the internet I have ever seen. As soon as anyone questioned him even mildly, he would take extreme offense, demand they post their credentials and remind everyone of his. He was clearly brilliant and his explanations were probably the best to grace these pages.

From the start of his posting career, his tendency to take umbrage made him both a troll magnet, and a magnet for the kind of CAFer’s who devote a minimum of 40% of their posts to pointing out how sad it is that other posters’ devotion to the clergy is inferior to theirs.

Had he been able handle simply ignoring posters instead of always doing the “don’t you know how much more qualified I am than you” thing at the slightest provocation, he could probably still be creating awesome posts here.

But then CAF wouldn’t be CAF
 
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True. Most priests probably shouldn’t be spending their time on here.
 
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