What does CAF think of Fr Ripperger?

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What does CAF think of Fr Ripperger?

I am in the catagory of “on CAF” so let’s see…

Nah, I would say exactly the same.

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Ps. Btw I would say the rest of the thread until here covered a lot of that.
 
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Just out of curiosity, besides the obvious sins like murder and adultery, who decides which sins are mortal (e.g., daycare without “serious” need)?

I would never even think that daycare could be a mortal sin…
 
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You are right both are responsible but the husband bears the greater weight of responsibility, being the head of the family.
 
NuclearReceptor said:
Just out of curiosity, besides the obvious sins like murder and adultery, who decides which sins are mortal (e.g., daycare without “serious” need)?

I would never even think that daycare could be a mortal sin…
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Me neither, that’s why I think that his interpretation of what is a sin and what isn’t is a bit too strict.

For me I use a booklet that lists common mortal and venial sins against each commandment, as a starting point. I would recommend getting something with imprimatur or looking online from a reputable source, like EWTN. Often I’ll ask the priest.
 
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NuclearReceptor:
Just out of curiosity, besides the obvious sins like murder and adultery, who decides which sins are mortal (e.g., daycare without “serious” need)?

I would never even think that daycare could be a mortal sin…
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Me neither, that’s why I think that his interpretation of what is a sin and what isn’t is a bit too strict.

For me I use a booklet that lists common mortal and venial sins against each commandment, as a starting point. I would recommend getting something with imprimatur or looking online from a reputable source, like EWTN. Often I’ll ask the priest.
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FWIW, what is mortal sin is something that should be asked directly to a priest. I won’t give the definition because I don’t think I should.
 
I do agree that it is not my business to decide whether or when NFP is being abused or not. I am not privy to people’s personal circumstances but it is my business to realize right and wrong and that right and wrong do happen in our world and to be ready to give an answer when needed as to why the Church teaches what it teaches.
 
They are both equally and fully responsible for the family. It is up to them to determine how childcare and employment are best managed for their family.
 
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Just out of curiosity, besides the obvious sins like murder and adultery, who decides which sins are mortal (e.g., daycare without “serious” need)?

I would never even think that daycare could be a mortal sin…
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It’s important that you realize that Fr. Ripperger’s general opinions on daycare being a mortal sin and work outside the home being a venial sin, are the opinions of one priest, NOT a general teaching of the Church.

Virtually any activity could potentially be a sin for some person if done with the wrong intent. If a mother put her kids in day care because she didn’t want to bother with them, then her own lack of love for the children is what is sinful, NOT the mere fact that she utilized day care. Most long-time Catholics understand this, and also understand that day care is not a bad thing in all cases, perhaps not even in most cases.

There are certain actions like murder and sex outside marriage that the Church has deemed “grave matter”, meaning such acts are likely to be serious and possibly mortal sins. Whether a particular act of a particular individual is a mortal sin would need to be determined by an individual priest discussing it with the individual person. The Church has not said that using daycare is “grave matter.”
 
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Even about mothers who work. Fact is some women do dislike staying at home even when they could. This is not about those who cannot due to finances. I had a former officemate with three kids who wanted to be a homemaker but could not due to money. There are mothers who work due to pride, because they want to prestige etc. They like to go out and wear makeup and nice clothes, saying being at home is boring. I get it, I am a woman who likes looking nice too. So it is saying they are bad, but pride is a factor.

I am a single person so obviously I work, but if i am married and given the circumstances that our financial situation would allow, I would also like to be full time to take care of the children. Also from where i am, it is so hard to find dependable and trustworthy babysitters these days, many employers are complaining and lamenting this.
 
It is no wonder so many good clergymen have left these forums.
 
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Mine too. I did not always agree with those who have left but I tried to give them the respect due their office.
 
Soon after his ordination, Fr. Ripperger was one of my first confessors and spiritual advisors after I entered the Church, so I’d like to throw my two cents in on this conversation. He is one of the most holy and humble men I have ever met. He is also one of the most intelligent men I have known, and if you read any of his books, you will see why. His main site Sensus Traditionis has a lot of resources available for those interested.

Fr. Ripperger is not a “media personality”, and the only reason you see his works on Sensus Fidelium and other YouTube videos is because he is well respected by many who want to share his talks due to their edification. Fr. Ripperger always has one thing in mind first and foremost, and that is our salvation. The main reason people have trouble listening to him is because he tells truths that most don’t want to hear. We are weak creatures, and Father is just trying to strengthen us in our difficult lifelong journey towards eternal glory.

One misconception I have seen thrown around on this thread is his disobedience to authority, which couldn’t be further from the truth. His Order was welcomed into the Diocese of Tulsa by the last bishop, and then when the current bishop asked them to leave, he did not hesitate, but went to another diocese where he was welcomed. In fact, you can find this on their website:
  • The priests of the Society of the Most Sorrowful Mother, the “Doloran Fathers,” is a semi-contemplative society of priests who work in cooperation with the local bishop to provide the assistance to those in the most spiritual need.
Sorry for the lengthy post, but it always troubles me to see someone who has dedicated his life to saving souls get thrown under the bus by internet warriors who have never met the man. God bless Fr. Ripperger and the work he has done, and I pray that we get more like him.
 
So with the whole “sending your child to daycare without a grave reason is a mortal sin” thing, where does Father draw the line? Is it grave matter if a woman has her mother (the child’s grandmother) look after her child for a few days a week? Is the mortal sin the woman’s alone, or is the father also in mortal sin, as head of the household, for allowing his wife to fail in her responsibilities?

I find it hard to believe that this is really the teaching of a Catholic priest in good standing…??
 
Have you researched Fr. Ripperger’s views on this topic? Perhaps you should send him a letter and ask him these questions yourself and find out what basis he has for his views and by what authority he says them. He may have even written on the topic, so you could try reading his books or published homilies.

I have rarely seen Father state his “personal opinions” on any topic, but rather he shows what the Church has taught throughout the centuries and applies them to today. I’m not saying that he is right 100% of the time, but I’d trust his interpretations over most any other priest I have met.

The fact that you find it hard to believe Fr. Ripperger is in good standing with the Church says more about you than about him, since it is obvious you do not know him. I’d tread lightly, however, about speaking ill of a priest on a Catholic forum.
 
I didn’t question whether this priest is a priest in good standing. I questioned whether the very odd and extreme views expressed on this thread are actually the teaching of a priest in good standing. That’s an important difference.
Since Father isn’t here, I’ll ask you. Do you consider it grave matter for a mother to ask her mother (the grandmother) to look after her child while she works if there isn’t a truly grave reason (e.g. preventing starvation) to do so?
If daycare is grave matter, I don’t see why that also wouldn’t apply to anyone other than the mother… despite the fact that in many (most?) cultures grandparents, aunts, cousins etc have all played a very active role in child rearing. The whole “mom staying at home by herself” is very 1950s America and not the norm.
 
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I will also say that I’ve seen right here on this thread what I’ve also seen elsewhere when Father comes up… there seems to be a bit of a personality cult. That may not be Father’s intention, and in fact I’m sure it’s not… but if any of his personal, somewhat unusual, teachings are criticized, his followers are extremely passionate in their defence of him. There also seems to be a “99% of priests can’t be trusted, but Father can” vibe.
 
It is the nature of this site that would lead me to doubt someone was a priest just because they said they were. That said, I’ve noticed there are many laity in this forum who seem to see themselves as above priests but an equal measure who seem to think priests are infallible. It’s interesting.

That said, yes, I will probably be putting my children in daycare. We don’t make enough money to pay our bills with one income. Is this our fault? Or the fault of a society that pays men pennies. My husband is an EMR. He barely makes enough to cover half our household bills. My income covers the rest. I make just as much as him as a secretary. He wants to work towards a better position that will pay better but we need money for him to do that and right now we live paycheque to paycheque. We don’t live extravagantly. We have a modest home, we don’t buy ourselves ‘toys’. We don’t have TV. We don’t have any bills that aren’t 100% necessary but as we plan for our upcoming baby it’s obvious I will have to get back to work ASAP or we will bankrupt and lose everything we’ve worked for (our home, our cars, etc). This father can call it a sin for me to go back to work and put my child in daycare but I think the larger sin would be to allow my family to become homeless.
 
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