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What does it mean to abide “in Christ?”

Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

Paul tells us that those who are “in Christ Jesus” do not walk according to the flesh and so they are not condemned.

1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

1 Timothy 2:3-4 “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

If we know Him (if we have come to the knowledge of the truth), then we are in Him.

1 John 3:24 “Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.”

John tells us that the person who keeps God’s commandments abides in Him and He in him. In other words, you must obey the commandments in order to claim that you are abiding “in Him (Christ).”

John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him”

We “love” Jesus by keeping His commandments. If we keep His commandments, then we will be loved by His Father.

1 John 3:22 “And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.”

We must keep God’s commandments and do those things which are pleasing in His sight if we expect to receive what we ask from Him.

1 John 4:21 “And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.”

Mark 12:29-31 “Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. 30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

We have to love both God and brother (neighbor) in order to be in obedience to His commandments.

1 John 2:3 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.”

If we do not keep His commandments, then we do not “know” God.

1 John 2:4 “He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

John states that we are liars, if we say that we know Him but we fail to keep His commandments.

What happens to all liars?

Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

In order to know God, and to love God, and to abide in Him, we must keep His commandments.

If we say that we know God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we abide in Christ but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God, but we do not love our neighbor, then we do not love God and we are liars.

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

Matthew 19:17 “if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

This is not a suggestion; Jesus states that you must obey the commandments if you want to enter eternal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 “when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power”

It is mandatory to obey God’s commandments (the gospel of Jesus Christ) in order to inherit eternal life. If we do not obey them, then we will be punished with everlasting destruction.

1 John 3:6 “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.”

1 John 2:3-5 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”

Pax,
SHW
 
What does it mean to abide “in Christ?”

Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

Paul tells us that those who are “in Christ Jesus” do not walk according to the flesh and so they are not condemned.

Pax,
SHW
And we do this by the power of grace (God’s divine love) that the Spirit pours into our hearts.

For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death.
(Rom 8:2)
 
And we do this by the power of grace (God’s divine love) that the Spirit pours into our hearts.

For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death.
(Rom 8:2)
Hi Ryan, 🙂

Thanks for the additional quote. Much appreciated.

Pax,
SHW
 
  • John 6:56 (RSV) *"*He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him
 
What does it mean to abide “in Christ?”

Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

Paul tells us that those who are “in Christ Jesus” do not walk according to the flesh and so they are not condemned.

1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

1 Timothy 2:3-4 “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

If we know Him (if we have come to the knowledge of the truth), then we are in Him.

1 John 3:24 “Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.”

John tells us that the person who keeps God’s commandments abides in Him and He in him. In other words, you must obey the commandments in order to claim that you are abiding “in Him (Christ).”

John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him”

We “love” Jesus by keeping His commandments. If we keep His commandments, then we will be loved by His Father.

1 John 3:22 “And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.”

We must keep God’s commandments and do those things which are pleasing in His sight if we expect to receive what we ask from Him.

1 John 4:21 “And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.”

Mark 12:29-31 “Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. 30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

We have to love both God and brother (neighbor) in order to be in obedience to His commandments.

1 John 2:3 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.”

If we do not keep His commandments, then we do not “know” God.

1 John 2:4 “He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

John states that we are liars, if we say that we know Him but we fail to keep His commandments.

What happens to all liars?

Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

In order to know God, and to love God, and to abide in Him, we must keep His commandments.

If we say that we know God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we abide in Christ but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God, but we do not love our neighbor, then we do not love God and we are liars.

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

Matthew 19:17 “if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

This is not a suggestion; Jesus states that you must obey the commandments if you want to enter eternal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 “when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power”

It is mandatory to obey God’s commandments (the gospel of Jesus Christ) in order to inherit eternal life. If we do not obey them, then we will be punished with everlasting destruction.

1 John 3:6 “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.”

1 John 2:3-5 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”

Pax,
SHW
hey SHW.quoting the bible is nice.jesus says you must obey the commandments. yes. the commandments are not done away with because of the cross.let me ask you a question. can anyone obey all the commandments? lets go one step furthur…can YOU obey all the commandments?
 
Hi Ryan, 🙂

Thanks for the additional quote. Much appreciated.

Pax,
SHW
hi SHW, if you started this thread for us, can you speak to the admins to allow me lattitude and not scratch me for ideas contrary to our beloved catholic church?
is it possible to have contrary ideas discussed here without the axe?
 
Abiding in Christ is necessary to be one of Christ’s disciples–
John 8:29-32: “As he spoke thus, many believed in him. Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, 'If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

This also provides a biblical definition of what it means to “believe,” as in “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”

So, believing in Jesus also means abiding in his word.
 
Abiding in Christ is necessary to be one of Christ’s disciples–
John 8:29-32: “As he spoke thus, many believed in him. Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, 'If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

This also provides a biblical definition of what it means to “believe,” as in “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”

So, believing in Jesus also means abiding in his word.
hey mbris, believing in jesus doesnt get you saved.you must be born again. the devils believe , and tremble.
 
Thanks! This verse DEFINITELY needs to be added, too. 🙂

Pax,
SHW
yeah thanks for this verse. too bad the unsaved cant understand it. hey SHW, see if you can get me immunity so i can talk freely in thei thread
 
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6:56 (RSV) *"*He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him

Thanks! This verse DEFINITELY needs to be added, too. 🙂
The above quote speaks very much to be about abiding in Jesus.

But our close abiding in Him was brought home to me by this line from the Song A Supper invitation’

Take of my bread and eat, drink my new wine. Take of my life and live, branch of my vine" .

This of course course refers to

John 15:5 " I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing. "

The NAB has rendered the word remain instead of abide

So I googled a few definitions and came up with these: to sustain, to endure, to submit to, to wait for, to be prepared for, to bear patiently.

All these speak of what remaining in Christ means.

I think this image of being branch of the vine that is Christ is good image to meditate on. It goes very much to the heart of what being Christian is. When I was in grade one, we were taught that ChristIAN means take away Christ and I Am Nothing. We can only bear fruit when attached to Christ.

St Irenaeus said that the glory of God is a man fully alive, and we can only be fully alive when we remain brances of His vine; when the sap that flows through Him flows in us too.
 
hi SHW, if you started this thread for us, can you speak to the admins to allow me lattitude and not scratch me for ideas contrary to our beloved catholic church?
Why do you say beloved Catholic Church when you are not Catholic and you can’t even decide whether you are Mormon or Episcopalian?
 
hey SHW.quoting the bible is nice.jesus says you must obey the commandments. yes. the commandments are not done away with because of the cross.let me ask you a question. can anyone obey all the commandments? lets go one step furthur…can YOU obey all the commandments?
Yes, we can obey all the commandments with God’s help. Yes, I can obey all the commandments with God’s help.

You can go one step further and ask the Apostle John this same question. He will tell you this:

1 John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”

John tells us that God’s commandments are not hard to bear if we love Him. Here’s truth: If we obey His commandments, then we become spiritually healthy persons and this makes us happy. We will not have guilty consciences. We are free from grievous sins and it is a wonderful freedom. Believing and obeying the Gospel of Jesus will set us free from sin. We will hate sin because we will not want to offend Jesus who suffered and died for us so that we can be happy with Him in heaven. So we will not consciously sin.

You see, J.P., if we truly love God, we’d rather die than offend Him so we keep trying to please Him rather than offend Him. And, yes, we can fail. But if we do, we ask God to forgive us and to help us so that we will not offend Him again.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7 “Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”

I am not saying that I am free of venial sin because I am not. I am still trying to overcome my faults so that I can become " perfect" as my heavenly Father is perfect."

Matthew 5:48 “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.”

Pax,
SHW
 
Yes, we can obey all the commandments with God’s help. Yes, I can obey all the commandments with God’s help.

You can go one step further and ask the Apostle John this same question. He will tell you this:

1 John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”

John tells us that God’s commandments are not hard to bear if we love Him. Here’s truth: If we obey His commandments, then we become spiritually healthy persons and this makes us happy. We will not have guilty consciences. We are free from grievous sins and it is a wonderful freedom. Believing and obeying the Gospel of Jesus will set us free from sin. We will hate sin because we will not want to offend Jesus who suffered and died for us so that we can be happy with Him in heaven. So we will not consciously sin.

You see, J.P., if we truly love God, we’d rather die than offend Him so we keep trying to please Him rather than offend Him. And, yes, we can fail. But if we do, we ask God to forgive us and to help us so that we will not offend Him again.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7 “Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”

I am not saying that I am free of venial sin because I am not. I am still trying to overcome my faults so that I can become " perfect" as my heavenly Father is perfect."

Matthew 5:48 “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.”

Pax,
SHW
Just a few comments for this post.
His commandments are not burdonsome to the spirit,but to the flesh they can be.
When one is free from sin means not that one has no sinfull tendancies,rather they are free to CHOOSE NOT TO SIN.to me that what the phrase free from sin means.
 
What does it mean to abide “in Christ?”

Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

Paul tells us that those who are “in Christ Jesus” do not walk according to the flesh and so they are not condemned.

1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

1 Timothy 2:3-4 “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

If we know Him (if we have come to the knowledge of the truth), then we are in Him.

1 John 3:24 “Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.”

John tells us that the person who keeps God’s commandments abides in Him and He in him. In other words, you must obey the commandments in order to claim that you are abiding “in Him (Christ).”

John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him”

We “love” Jesus by keeping His commandments. If we keep His commandments, then we will be loved by His Father.

1 John 3:22 “And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.”

We must keep God’s commandments and do those things which are pleasing in His sight if we expect to receive what we ask from Him.

1 John 4:21 “And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.”

Mark 12:29-31 “Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. 30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

We have to love both God and brother (neighbor) in order to be in obedience to His commandments.

1 John 2:3 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.”

If we do not keep His commandments, then we do not “know” God.

1 John 2:4 “He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

John states that we are liars, if we say that we know Him but we fail to keep His commandments.

What happens to all liars?

Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

In order to know God, and to love God, and to abide in Him, we must keep His commandments.

If we say that we know God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we abide in Christ but we do not keep His commandments, then we are liars.

If we say that we love God, but we do not love our neighbor, then we do not love God and we are liars.

All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.

Matthew 19:17 “if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

This is not a suggestion; Jesus states that you must obey the commandments if you want to enter eternal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 “when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power”

It is mandatory to obey God’s commandments (the gospel of Jesus Christ) in order to inherit eternal life. If we do not obey them, then we will be punished with everlasting destruction.

1 John 3:6 “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.”

1 John 2:3-5 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”

Pax,
SHW
in the gospels to abide is to be in the vine and partake of jesus body and blood the eucharist bread and wine … spiritual grace of god…
 
Yes, we can obey all the commandments with God’s help. Yes, I can obey all the commandments with God’s help.

You can go one step further and ask the Apostle John this same question. He will tell you this:

1 John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”

John tells us that God’s commandments are not hard to bear if we love Him. Here’s truth: If we obey His commandments, then we become spiritually healthy persons and this makes us happy. We will not have guilty consciences. We are free from grievous sins and it is a wonderful freedom. Believing and obeying the Gospel of Jesus will set us free from sin. We will hate sin because we will not want to offend Jesus who suffered and died for us so that we can be happy with Him in heaven. So we will not consciously sin.

You see, J.P., if we truly love God, we’d rather die than offend Him so we keep trying to please Him rather than offend Him. And, yes, we can fail. But if we do, we ask God to forgive us and to help us so that we will not offend Him again.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7 “Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”

I am not saying that I am free of venial sin because I am not. I am still trying to overcome my faults so that I can become " perfect" as my heavenly Father is perfect."

Matthew 5:48 “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.”

Pax,
SHW
my friend, you cant try hard and make it to heaven. what does god tell the ones going to hell? he said …I never knew you. Depart from me ye workers of iniquity. you see, you must have a personal relation with jesus. being born again is the only way. jesus said it and im reminding you. please dont let folks in here talk you out of it. Matthew 23; 13
 
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