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Rev.3: 20 “Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me”
  1. What does this mean to you?
  2. What is your responce?
 
Jesus stands at the door of your heart and awaits a welcome. He desires to be in your life and everyday affairs.
 
Rev.3: 20 “Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me”
  1. What does this mean to you?
  2. What is your responce?
First, let’s look at the entire passage in context (the verse quoted is in bold):

"And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: 'The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.

I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’" [Rev 3:14-22; ESV]

Under the dictation of the Lord, the apostle John is writing Christ’s warnings and encouragements to the seven churches. This passage is addressed to “the church in Laodicea” (v. 14). He warns that He finds them lukewarm, neither cold nor hot (v. 15-16), and likewise claim to be wealthy and in no need of anything, when in fact they are poor and wretched (v. 17). This latter point is entirely spiritual in context, for He tells them to seek from Him “gold refined by fire” and “rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself” (v. 18).

Speaking from this same context of despising lukewarm faith and seeking from God true wealth and clothing, Christ says: “Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent” (v. 19). After this request, He states: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me” (v. 20). He adds an additional promise to this: “The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne” (v. 21). Finally, He concludes this as He does to all the churches: “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches” (v. 22), again establishing that the audience being spoken to are the churches.

What does this passage mean?
  • Christ is speaking to the Christians who have yet to be judged. Unlike the popular belief that this is a general statement to everyone, this is a statement to believers and supposed believers. At least two verses illustrate specifically that this is addressed to the church (verses 14 and 22).
  • The immediate concern is for those who are “lukewarm,” and thus carry a weak faith that is neither for God or against them. They likewise believe themselves to be self-sufficient, and essentially believe that they have no need for God.
  • He commands them to be zealous repent, for He is coming. Those are attentive and ready will open the door when He knocks, and thus He will enter and eat with them (v. 20), and they will be glorified with Him and the Father (v. 21). Hence on the return of Christ, they will find themselves a Day of Eternal Life, as opposed to a Day of Judgment for those not ready and unbelieving.
To summarize: the verse is a warning to believers to be ready for the arrival of Christ.
 
It simply means that Christ wants to be part of your life but will not crash the door in. Free will. It is ours to open the door of our hearts to Him or not.
 
First, let’s look at the entire passage in context (the verse quoted is in bold):

"And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: 'The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.

I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’" [Rev 3:14-22; ESV]

Under the dictation of the Lord, the apostle John is writing Christ’s warnings and encouragements to the seven churches. This passage is addressed to “the church in Laodicea” (v. 14). He warns that He finds them lukewarm, neither cold nor hot (v. 15-16), and likewise claim to be wealthy and in no need of anything, when in fact they are poor and wretched (v. 17). This latter point is entirely spiritual in context, for He tells them to seek from Him “gold refined by fire” and “rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself” (v. 18).

Speaking from this same context of despising lukewarm faith and seeking from God true wealth and clothing, Christ says: “Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent” (v. 19). After this request, He states: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me” (v. 20). He adds an additional promise to this: “The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne” (v. 21). Finally, He concludes this as He does to all the churches: “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches” (v. 22), again establishing that the audience being spoken to are the churches.

What does this passage mean?
  • Christ is speaking to the Christians who have yet to be judged. Unlike the popular belief that this is a general statement to everyone, this is a statement to believers and supposed believers. At least two verses illustrate specifically that this is addressed to the church (verses 14 and 22).
  • The immediate concern is for those who are “lukewarm,” and thus carry a weak faith that is neither for God or against them. They likewise believe themselves to be self-sufficient, and essentially believe that they have no need for God.
  • He commands them to be zealous repent, for He is coming. Those are attentive and ready will open the door when He knocks, and thus He will enter and eat with them (v. 20), and they will be glorified with Him and the Father (v. 21). Hence on the return of Christ, they will find themselves a Day of Eternal Life, as opposed to a Day of Judgment for those not ready and unbelieving.
To summarize: the verse is a warning to believers to be ready for the arrival of Christ.
Byzantine_Wolf
Is it just me, or do you get the sense that we are amongst the lukewarm.

Out here in the desert we feed the birds and what has come to mind in this is, you can’t stop the birds from gathering to feed on what they want.

In a sense, how can they prevent what they cause?
 
Byzantine_Wolf
Is it just me, or do you get the sense that we are amongst the lukewarm.

Out here in the desert we feed the birds and what has come to mind in this is, you can’t stop the birds from gathering to feed on what they want.

In a sense, how can they prevent what they cause?
I think I once heard a pastor say that the description of the church in Laodicea described well (figuratively speaking) the churches in America. I have to agree with that somewhat.

Although I think I misunderstand your question: “In a sense, how can they prevent what they cause?”
 
=Byzantine_Wolf;7087623]First, let’s look at the entire passage in context (the verse quoted is in bold):
"And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: 'The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.
I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’" [Rev 3:14-22; ESV]
Under the dictation of the Lord, the apostle John is writing Christ’s warnings and encouragements to the seven churches. This passage is addressed to “the church in Laodicea” (v. 14). He warns that He finds them lukewarm, neither cold nor hot (v. 15-16), and likewise claim to be wealthy and in no need of anything, when in fact they are poor and wretched (v. 17). This latter point is entirely spiritual in context, for He tells them to seek from Him “gold refined by fire” and “rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself” (v. 18).
Speaking from this same context of despising lukewarm faith and seeking from God true wealth and clothing, Christ says: “Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent” (v. 19). After this request, He states: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me” (v. 20). He adds an additional promise to this: “The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne” (v. 21). Finally, He concludes this as He does to all the churches: “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches” (v. 22), again establishing that the audience being spoken to are the churches.
What does this passage mean?
  • Christ is speaking to the Christians who have yet to be judged. Unlike the popular belief that this is a general statement to everyone, this is a statement to believers and supposed believers. At least two verses illustrate specifically that this is addressed to the church (verses 14 and 22).
  • The immediate concern is for those who are “lukewarm,” and thus carry a weak faith that is neither for God or against them. They likewise believe themselves to be self-sufficient, and essentially believe that they have no need for God.
  • He commands them to be zealous repent, for He is coming. Those are attentive and ready will open the door when He knocks, and thus He will enter and eat with them (v. 20), and they will be glorified with Him and the Father (v. 21). Hence on the return of Christ, they will find themselves a Day of Eternal Life, as opposed to a Day of Judgment for those not ready and unbelieving.
To summarize: the verse is a warning to believers to be ready for the arrival of Christ.
WE ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON YOUR POST. 🙂

Love and prayers,
Pat
 
First, let’s look at the entire passage in context (the verse quoted is in bold):

"And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: 'The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.

I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’" [Rev 3:14-22; ESV]

Under the dictation of the Lord, the apostle John is writing Christ’s warnings and encouragements to the seven churches. This passage is addressed to “the church in Laodicea” (v. 14). He warns that He finds them lukewarm, neither cold nor hot (v. 15-16), and likewise claim to be wealthy and in no need of anything, when in fact they are poor and wretched (v. 17). This latter point is entirely spiritual in context, for He tells them to seek from Him “gold refined by fire” and “rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself” (v. 18).

Speaking from this same context of despising lukewarm faith and seeking from God true wealth and clothing, Christ says: “Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent” (v. 19). After this request, He states: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me” (v. 20). He adds an additional promise to this: “The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne” (v. 21). Finally, He concludes this as He does to all the churches: “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches” (v. 22), again establishing that the audience being spoken to are the churches.

What does this passage mean?
  • Christ is speaking to the Christians who have yet to be judged. Unlike the popular belief that this is a general statement to everyone, this is a statement to believers and supposed believers. At least two verses illustrate specifically that this is addressed to the church (verses 14 and 22).
  • The immediate concern is for those who are “lukewarm,” and thus carry a weak faith that is neither for God or against them. They likewise believe themselves to be self-sufficient, and essentially believe that they have no need for God.
  • He commands them to be zealous repent, for He is coming. Those are attentive and ready will open the door when He knocks, and thus He will enter and eat with them (v. 20), and they will be glorified with Him and the Father (v. 21). Hence on the return of Christ, they will find themselves a Day of Eternal Life, as opposed to a Day of Judgment for those not ready and unbelieving.
To summarize: the verse is a warning to believers to be ready for the arrival of Christ.
Great post, Mr. Wolf.
 
It’s Christ eternal call to every heart, mind and soul for conversion and confession. He’s calling back His lost sheep and lambs.
 
It simply means that Christ wants to be part of your life but will not crash the door in. Free will. It is ours to open the door of our hearts to Him or not.
An artist of a painting which I keep on my drawer depicts this very well. The lock to open the door is on the inside. It can only be opened by the owner of the house.

This is the standard invitation of the Lord - he calls but he won’t force you; it’s up to us to anwer that call and open the door of our heart.

One of my all time favorites. 👍
 
I think I once heard a pastor say that the description of the church in Laodicea described well (figuratively speaking) the churches in America. I have to agree with that somewhat.

Although I think I misunderstand your question: “In a sense, how can they prevent what they cause?”
Byzantine_Wolf

thanks for the reply

Who, in their right minds, that can recognize Mercy, Grace and forgiveness, wants to be like a church going American? Every sinner there is, that knows they are sinners, can recognize Mercy, Grace and forgiveness when they see it.
 
Who, in their right minds, that can recognize Mercy, Grace and forgiveness, wants to be like a church going American? Every sinner there is, that knows they are sinners, can recognize Mercy, Grace and forgiveness when they see it.
The problem is man by nature is a child of wrath (Eph 2:3), and Paul, quoting extensively from the Psalms, makes it clear that man wants no part in that mercy, grace and forgiveness (Rom 3:10-12). They might know it’s there, but they hate it because they do not understand it and in fact abhor it (Rom 1:39). That’s why it takes the work of the Holy Spirit to enable a person to understand mercy, grace and forgiveness (Eph 2:8-9). Then not only will they recognize mercy, grace and forgiveness, but will know precisely how great a mercy, grace and forgiveness it is!

Someone made reference to the famous Warner Sallman painting with Christ knocking at a knob-less door, and that it’s our responsibility to let Him in. Aside from the fact this isn’t what the passage is talking about (as I showed in my post), scripture is clear that, if this were the case, man does not want to open the door. Christ comes knocking and we tell Him, “Go away!” Either Christ is a victim of fatalism and is defeated easily by a door, or He knows His sheep (John 10:14) and has preserved them (John 6:39) so that, when the hour comes, they will open that door and have salvation.
 
The problem is man by nature is a child of wrath (Eph 2:3), and Paul, quoting extensively from the Psalms, makes it clear that man wants no part in that mercy, grace and forgiveness (Rom 3:10-12). They might know it’s there, but they hate it because they do not understand it and in fact abhor it (Rom 1:39). That’s why it takes the work of the Holy Spirit to enable a person to understand mercy, grace and forgiveness (Eph 2:8-9). Then not only will they recognize mercy, grace and forgiveness, but will know precisely how great a mercy, grace and forgiveness it is!

Someone made reference to the famous Warner Sallman painting with Christ knocking at a knob-less door, and that it’s our responsibility to let Him in. Aside from the fact this isn’t what the passage is talking about (as I showed in my post), scripture is clear that, if this were the case, man does not want to open the door. Christ comes knocking and we tell Him, “Go away!” Either Christ is a victim of fatalism and is defeated easily by a door, or He knows His sheep (John 10:14) and has preserved them (John 6:39) so that, when the hour comes, they will open that door and have salvation.
Mr. Wolf,

Do you believe we are predestined to answer the call of Christ or to reject His call?
 
Mr. Wolf,

Do you believe we are predestined to answer the call of Christ or to reject His call?
If we answer the call of Christ we are predestined to answer it. If we reject it we are predestined to reject it. Predestination is our choice.
 
The problem is man by nature is a child of wrath (Eph 2:3), and Paul, quoting extensively from the Psalms, makes it clear that man wants no part in that mercy, grace and forgiveness (Rom 3:10-12). They might know it’s there, but they hate it because they do not understand it and in fact abhor it (Rom 1:39). That’s why it takes the work of the Holy Spirit to enable a person to understand mercy, grace and forgiveness (Eph 2:8-9). Then not only will they recognize mercy, grace and forgiveness, but will know precisely how great a mercy, grace and forgiveness it is!

Someone made reference to the famous Warner Sallman painting with Christ knocking at a knob-less door, and that it’s our responsibility to let Him in. Aside from the fact this isn’t what the passage is talking about (as I showed in my post), scripture is clear that, if this were the case, man does not want to open the door. Christ comes knocking and we tell Him, “Go away!” Either Christ is a victim of fatalism and is defeated easily by a door, or He knows His sheep (John 10:14) and has preserved them (John 6:39) so that, when the hour comes, they will open that door and have salvation.
Not a bit of it - if Christ knocks and we either don’t open through not hearing Him, or indeed actively tell Him ‘go away’ He won’t be defeated and go away, but will stay there and keep knocking.

This doesn’t, however, guarantee that we WILL either hear His knock or let Him in - ever.
 
Mr. Wolf,

Do you believe we are predestined to answer the call of Christ or to reject His call?
I believe what Christ taught us: “I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep” (John 10:14-15). Note too at the beginning of that chapter, as Christ is describing the sheep being called, He says specifically: “The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out” (John 10:3). Before the sheep have even moved, Christ knows who are His own, and it is they who hear His voice and follow - but before they follow, they are part of His herd.
Not a bit of it - if Christ knocks and we either don’t open through not hearing Him, or indeed actively tell Him ‘go away’ He won’t be defeated and go away, but will stay there and keep knocking.

This doesn’t, however, guarantee that we WILL either hear His knock or let Him in - ever.
And where do you see that happening in the text?
 
I believe what Christ taught us: “I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep” (John 10:14-15). Note too at the beginning of that chapter, as Christ is describing the sheep being called, He says specifically: “The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out” (John 10:3). Before the sheep have even moved, Christ knows who are His own, and it is they who hear His voice and follow - but before they follow, they are part of His herd.
Uh, no - ‘other sheep I have, which are not of this fold, and them also must I bring …’ John 10:16. They don’t begin by being part of His herd, He brings them INTO His herd.

And what about the lost ones for which He goes searching? Surely they are predestined to be lost, no? So why bother going after them?
 
And where do you see that happening in the text?
‘IF anyone hears my voice and opens the door’. Means assuredly that there is the real option that some will NOT hear His voice and/or NOT open the door, and that they have a real choice in the matter.

Otherwise the statement is meaningless as it stands. It isn’t, for example, ‘Persons xyz will definitely hear my voice and open the door, and to them I will come in’.

However, it IS ‘I stand at the door and knock’ - that’s not conditional, it’s not ‘I stop knocking if the one who is inside doesn’t answer’ or anything of the sort.
 
Uh, no - ‘other sheep I have, which are not of this fold, and them also must I bring …’ John 10:16. They don’t begin by being part of His herd, He brings them INTO His herd.

And what about the lost ones for which He goes searching? Surely they are predestined to be lost, no? So why bother going after them?
“Uh no,” as in…I made those verses up? 😛 The “other sheep” our Lord was referring to were the Gentiles, who were to be brought into the fold. You are right, however, that he brings them into the herd - God is the active party here, not the sheep. Sheep are not known for picking and choosing their shepherds.

The lost sheep was a parable related to someone being brought to God. In Luke’s gospel it is put alongside the parable of the lost coin and the parable of the prodigal son, both of which are addressing joy at something being lost being found. It was in direct response to the Pharisees and scribes despising Christ allowing open sinners (tax collectors, etc.) to repent.

Note, too, something funny about the lost sheep…the sheep already belonged to the herd, and when the shepherd found it, he knew it was his sheep. Unless you’re arguing that the shepherd is going around “sheep-napping” from other flocks, there’s nothing contradictory about the lost sheep parable and John 10.
‘IF anyone hears my voice and opens the door’. Means assuredly that there is the real option that some will NOT hear His voice and/or NOT open the door, otherwise the statement is meaningless as it stands.

It isn’t ‘Some will hear my voice and open the door’.
The text is saying that Christ is referring to people who are already part of the church, either as Christians or nominal Christians at best, and are awaiting His return. I made that clear in my first post. If you can show me where in the text He is talking about unbelievers coming to know Him, feel free to show me.
 
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