What Hand Missal WIll You Be Purchasing?

[asd72]

I think I will look at getting a Missel too. I’m feeling very lost at Mass, even with the hand Missel they provide.

 

[Blackberry]

Like everyone else, I’m trying to decide which revised missal to buy. The St. Paul Daily Missal’s description on the Internet isn’t informative enough for me and there’s no excerpt to preview so…

1. 
   *]Is the St. Paul Daily Missal in English AND Latin, or just in English?
   *]Are the Scripture readings from the New American Bible (NAB) version? (If not, what Bible version are they from?)
   *]Are there only reflections on the Sunday Scripture readings? Or are there reflections on the readings for weekday Masses too?
   *]Does the missal include ALL the official Mass prayers (including the ones prayed by the priest)?
   *]Does the missal require a lot of page-flipping?
   *]About how many pages does the missal have?
   *]How does the St. Paul Daily Missal compare with the Daily Roman Missal (from MTF or OSV)? Pros/Cons?
   
   So far, I’m intrigued by the St. Paul Daily Missal’s color pictures (I’m a visually-oriented person), the lowest price, the fact that it contains both Sunday and weekday Masses, and the short reflections on the readings.
   
   Thanks for any answers you can give me!

 

[DJJG]

***I subscribe to the monthly MAGNIFICAT, that has the missil for the whole month plus morning and evening prayer. If you go to daily mass it’s great - much better than the missilettes the the parishes use. ***

 

[MarcoPolo]

Does anyone know how the content of the Pauline Press “Saint Paul Daily Missal” compares to the MTF missal?

The MTF website has nice screenshots, but it looks like there are lots of images, and for people who want to turn the page less, I wonder if the Saint Paul one is better?

 

[asia53]

We are suppose to listen as the readings are proclaimed. "“When the scriptures are read in the Church, God himself is speaking to his people, and Christ, present in his own word, is proclaiming the Gospel.” (GIRM 9)

If you truly believe that Christ is present…you don’t read…you listen attentively!

I happened to stop at the Parish office a couple of months ago, I walked into an ongoing discussion about this. Our priest was saying, “Close your eyes, listen to the words, and let the Holy Spirit touch your heart.”

Ever since I heard Father M say this, I’ve been doing it. It’s been my experience, the Word stays with me longer. I will think about it later, ponder, and try to understand what lesson I am to learn.

Anyway, that’s what I notice.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Does anyone know how the content of the Pauline Press “Saint Paul Daily Missal” compares to the MTF missal?

The MTF website has nice screenshots, but it looks like there are lots of images, and for people who want to turn the page less, I wonder if the Saint Paul one is better?

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[alwayslooking]

Like everyone else, I’m trying to decide which revised missal to buy. The St. Paul Daily Missal’s description on the Internet isn’t informative enough for me and there’s no excerpt to preview so…

1. 
   *]Is the St. Paul Daily Missal in English AND Latin, or just in English?
   *]Are the Scripture readings from the New American Bible (NAB) version? (If not, what Bible version are they from?)
   *]Are there only reflections on the Sunday Scripture readings? Or are there reflections on the readings for weekday Masses too?
   *]Does the missal include ALL the official Mass prayers (including the ones prayed by the priest)?
   *]Does the missal require a lot of page-flipping?
   *]About how many pages does the missal have?
   *]How does the St. Paul Daily Missal compare with the Daily Roman Missal (from MTF or OSV)? Pros/Cons?
   
   So far, I’m intrigued by the St. Paul Daily Missal’s color pictures (I’m a visually-oriented person), the lowest price, the fact that it contains both Sunday and weekday Masses, and the short reflections on the readings.
   
   Thanks for any answers you can give me!

1. 
   I can’t speak about the new St. Paul Missal, but I can speak about Pauline Press’ current Vatican II Weekday Missal which I use a daily Mass.
   1. The current Vatican II Missal is English only.
   2. The missal is printed for the U.S.A. therefor the readings are from the modified NAB used at Mass.
   3. The missal does have short reflections on readings for everyday of the week.
   4. The missal does use all of the Mass prayers including those prayed by the priest.
   5. As far as page flipping: Order of Mass is on a page, weekly antiphons and prayers are on a page, and daily readings are on a page.
   6. The current missal is quite thick, but I was told at the Pauline Press store that the word is that the new missal will be thinner despite the increased content of both Sunday and weekday Masses.
   7. When comparing the two (Old Pauline missal & MTF missal) I like the MTF because of the Latin, and a much larger treasury of prayers. I like my missal to be the only daily book i need (other than LOTH). The current Pauline missal has only four or five pages of prayers and does not even include pre & post Mass basics.
   I hope this helps.
   
   I’m waiting to see both the MTF and Pauline missals in person before making a decision. Apparently the CBPCo version is going to be much the same, and I’m not a big fan.
   
   I love the current MTF, hopefully it doesn’t change at all. I really want to see the improved Pauline Press St. Paul Daily Missal before making the final call.

 

[iloveangels]

Using more than one of our senses makes the message more clear and stays with you longer. I can follow along while it is read., I can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

Me too. This is just good sense and it always has been. Besides, the readings, antiphons and so on are different every day, even if the responses are not.

[PS. Now that we’ve brought up the topic of gum, I don’t chew it in mass…just in case you were wondering.]

 

[iloveangels]

We are suppose to listen as the readings are proclaimed. "“When the scriptures are read in the Church, God himself is speaking to his people, and Christ, present in his own word, is proclaiming the Gospel.” (GIRM 9)

If you truly believe that Christ is present…you don’t read…you listen attentively!

Do you read the Bible at home that way too? Just wondering.

 

[odile53]

With the introduction of the new missal for Mass in the Ordinary Form, those of us who use personal hand missals will be making a purchase soon.

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All the original poster is asking is those of us who use personal hand missals to identify the choice we are considering, and give a reason why we make that choice. (S)he is in no wise recommending that everyone use a personal hand missal, and if you think the only valid way to partake of the Word of God at Mass is to listen to the readings, nobody is recommending that you abandon that position.

There are a lot of us who attend Mass in churches with bad acoustics, poor sound systems, readers who murder the foreign language proper names of people and places, and that doesn’t even begin to address congregation members with failing hearing. There are others who like having the ready reference of the written word in front of them, and still others who are “visual” learners. To people like this, a hand missal is a useful and reverent tool, and well worth the investment. Please let them share their observations, so that those of us who are still considering such a purchase can get good information.

 

[Phemie]

just meant that that she, anna, must be unaware that there are a great many people out there like myself who prefer to bring their own missal, makes it more personal.

wick

Anna is simply repeating what we have been taught through the years. I remember going to a workshop on reading in church. The priest leading the workshop, a renowned liturgist, started to demonstrate reading. Everyone turned to their missal and suddenly his voice dropped. Everyone looked up and he was facing away from us. He felt the stares and turned around, “If you’re not going to look at me, why should I look at you?” That’s when he made the point that the reading was to be listened to, not read. That attitude has prevailed throughout liturgy circles. It does not take into consideration the fact that not everyone is an auditory learner. Some are visual and need that reinforcement to get anything out of a lesson, be it the Gospel or a lesson on the Pythagorean theory.

I personally don’t like to use a missal. I close my eyes and listen to the reading and get the most out of it. Reading along doesn’t work for me as I’m always ahead of the reader and it’s like watching a 3-D movie without the glasses.

I close my eyes and listen to the rest of Mass too, just so I don’t have to see the priest refuse to genuflect after the Elevation and before Communion and insist on having the the EMHCs and altar servers receive Communion at the exact same time he does as though they were concelebrants.

 

[Ruth_Catherine]

We are suppose to listen as the readings are proclaimed. "“When the scriptures are read in the Church, God himself is speaking to his people, and Christ, present in his own word, is proclaiming the Gospel.” (GIRM 9)

If you truly believe that Christ is present…you don’t read…you listen attentively!

Everyone learns, or takes in, information in different ways. I need to follow along. I am not reading. I am following. I am following Christ present who is guiding me by showing me the words in print. Then I get more out of it. I remember it. At Mass there are people who use their missals always and those that don’t. For me to listen attentively means to see it in print and that is how I truly feel God speaking to me.

 

[Ruth_Catherine]

I happened to stop at the Parish office a couple of months ago, I walked into an ongoing discussion about this. Our priest was saying, “Close your eyes, listen to the words, and let the Holy Spirit touch your heart.”

Ever since I heard Father M say this, I’ve been doing it. It’s been my experience, the Word stays with me longer. I will think about it later, ponder, and try to understand what lesson I am to learn.

Anyway, that’s what I notice.

If I did that my mind would in a very short period of time be on something else. Usually the events of the rest of the day but it works for my husband and son. I can ask them later what was read or said and they know. God made us all to learn in different ways, so I have to use the missal.

 

[Ruth_Catherine]

With the introduction of the new missal for Mass in the Ordinary Form, those of us who use personal hand missals will be making a purchase soon.

I was wondering which hand missal you will be purchasing? Also why?

The three major missals available in the United States are:

• The Saint Joseph Missal (Catholic Book Publishing Co.): 3 vols.
• Daily Roman Missal (Midwest Theological Forum/Our Sunday Visitor): 1 vol.
• Sunday/Weekday Missal (Pauline Press): 2 vols.

I currently own both the Saint Joseph and the one from Pauline for the current Mass. I’m still on the fence about which one to buy. I am leaning toward the one from MTF because it includes Latin text for when I go to the OF in Latin.

I did visit a Pauline store and one of the nuns said that their new missal will be thinner and include color pictures in some way. I also enjoy the Saint Joseph because of its smaller size (being divided into three volumes helps).

All have their drawbacks and all have their attractive points.

I was going to ask this question when I found this poll. Thanks because I had not seen the Pauline Press Missal before, though I did vote for the MTF. That is the one I probably will get. I like to have the Missal for weekdays mostly. I use the missal in the pew on Sundays. During the week I attend a different parish because taking my son to school takes me in a different direction. That parish has terrible missals. They are huge and floppy and for the week they barely have any of the readings or responsorial psalm. It lists what they are but the most you get is the antiphons.

The other reason voted for the MTF is because it has Sunday in it also, in case I wanted to take it on Sunday and because I think it is good to meditate on the readings before attending mass.

 

[iloveangels]

…and it’s difficult to use because everything is upside down.

That can’t work well!

 

[iloveangels]

I am not going to buy another hard cover permanent missal for a while, since everytime I do either they make a ton of corrections, or there are more changes, and a new edition comes out the next month.

I will rely on the Sunday St Joseph missalette from Catholic book pub, the annual, which I buy for catechists, RCIA and confirmation candidates each year, and Magnificat or Word Among us for daily Mass.

That’s pretty much what I’m doing too. I want the daily readings so that I can read them ahead of time and “tune in.” But right now I’m using the St. Joseph Sunday Missal, ISBN 978-0-89942-147-6 for Sundays at least. These little missals are really cheap–I mean like $2–and they’re an annual booklet. You can use that ISBN number to search stores online to find this. You can even google it. This booklet is working very well for Sunday masses.

I not only have the responses but I have the Psalms, Readings, Collect, Eucharistic Prayers and all of it.

 

[iloveangels]

Everyone learns, or takes in, information in different ways. I need to follow along. I am not reading. I am following. I am following Christ present who is guiding me by showing me the words in print. Then I get more out of it. I remember it. At Mass there are people who use their missals always and those that don’t. For me to listen attentively means to see it in print and that is how I truly feel God speaking to me.

Absolutely! I used to teach high school. One of the most important parts of my training was learning that:
a) People attend to anything being said in different ways–visual, auditory, etc and it’s important to make it so everyone can “hear.”
b) For most people, taking something in using more than one sense is far more effective than just using one sense. This means that if people hear the readings while they read the readings, many more people are likely to “hear” and remember them later. Scientific fact, demonstrated as true many times.

 

[opus101]

We are suppose to listen as the readings are proclaimed. "“When the scriptures are read in the Church, God himself is speaking to his people, and Christ, present in his own word, is proclaiming the Gospel.” (GIRM 9)

If you truly believe that Christ is present…you don’t read…you listen attentively!

That’s what our priest told us, but I disagree. Our readers are not-so-good, sometimes the meaning is changed by the way they misread the text. Also, some mumble and run words together. I’d rather listen AND read attentively at the same time. That way, I can also see the exact verses that are being read, and look them up at home later for meditation.

 

[iloveangels]

That’s what our priest told us, but I disagree. Our readers are not-so-good, sometimes the meaning is changed by the way they misread the text. Also, some mumble and run words together. I’d rather listen AND read attentively at the same time. That way, I can also see the exact verses that are being read, and look them up at home later for meditation.

Absolutely. This is well-known to teachers. They use this fact all the time. It increases comprehension and retention for almost all people.

 

[iloveangels]

Everyone learns, or takes in, information in different ways. I need to follow along. I am not reading. I am following. I am following Christ present who is guiding me by showing me the words in print. Then I get more out of it. I remember it. At Mass there are people who use their missals always and those that don’t. For me to listen attentively means to see it in print and that is how I truly feel God speaking to me.

You’re probably what teachers call a “visual learner,” and there’s nothing at all wrong with that. It’s a good way to learn, very effective. And God loves visual learners too. In fact he made them. :flowers: